Something needs to be done about farming.
I have played 5 games tonight far, 4 of which were farmers. I was also queued for like five minutes for all the games. Nobody wants to play a game where nobody actually plays. BHVR needs to do something about farmers, or else more people are gonna start quitting more than they already are. Not saying you need to ban farmers, but ruining 4 other peoples experience cause someone wants to AFK to be "funny", or a pig, who sits in front of one box so you cant get a trap off, or an afk killer that has a macro making them swing every couple seconds. I could go on and on. I have been playing for so long, and nothing is more annoying then waiting sometimes 10-15 minutes for a match late at night just for it to be a farming/afk or any other variation of not playing correctly killer. Theres so much stuff ive seen killers do besides actually trying to play the game. And they all know what theyre doing. Most trying to be annoying-maybe besides farmers. Nonetheless, farming is still very unfun for me. If you like it, thats no issue at all, but I would like to actually play the game and get better, not hold m1 on gens for 80 seconds for 5 seconds while my other 3 teammates all run around with each other throwing the pallets, teabagging with the killer, doing everything except gens. Sooo boring to me. I only find this enjoyable if a regular match somehow turns into random nonsense like that. Sometimes, I dont even mind farming. But not when more than half my matches are farmers, and I cant DC or do anything about it. Most farmers wont kill me either. Even when I go point at the hook. They'll get me to second and then not hook me, or my teammates will unhook me when im obviously trying to commit.
You could literally just make it so DC penaltys dont stack up to an insane amount of hours after a certain amount of DC's- which is a whole other ridiculous issue. What if your internet is crap and goes out a couple times a day? You can literally get a 12-48 hour dc penalty just for trying to play the game, which has happened to me a couple times. It makes no sense for the dc penalty to be any higher than 5-15 minutes. Completely absurd. Just adds another reason onto the list of why people are quitting.
EDIT: for the people that are saying you cant tell people how to play the game, they can play however they want. Go read the description of dead by daylight on steam,google, wherever, you will find that nowhere in the description does it tell you to farm or anything of the sort. Also, if you can play how you want, then why do hackers get banned? They're just playing how they want to play. And I guess that means I can go be as toxic as I want right? No, because being toxic is discouraged. Just like farming should be. You can do it, but why? Why ruin someone elses game?
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People just can't leave the pig alone. ;/
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love piggy but not when they sit in front of a box with THOSE 2 addons
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It's despicable pig is innocent
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Go play killer for a while and you will realize why people try to lower their MMR.
On a side note: killer queue is also instant, no 10-15 min queue :)
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Dont play killer if youre going to purposely lower your mmr. Either way youre going to lose lmao so what does sitting there doing nothing do compared to actually playing? At least one of those options isnt boring. And, I already play enough killer, instead of playing more then I do, BHVR could just simply do something about farming to make it more discouraged or make it so you cant get a higher than 15 minute dc penalty. There's completely nothing wrong with that :)
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Yeah farm games are not my favorite but as a killer main mostly have control over it. Afk people people really should get an penalty like dc's because if it's a surv it ruins the game for your team and if it's the killer but I don't know how they could do that. First I thought the pig thing was kinda funny because technically she used her power like a dice role and committed to it only getting the kills the get with it but now I start to understand why people are so unhappy about it.
I would love a luck based killer tho. Sure people would complain that they have no control but I think man that's chill af because when everything goes down for me lady luck just wasn't in the mood.
On the dc thing tho I think you are wrong. We need heavy penalties for people that dc multiple times because every dc ruins the game for every one in it. Sure with the hacker problem it sucks but I personally never met a hacker till this day and even while watching hours of steams a day a see maybe one a month so that should be oke to DC in this situations. If it really the internet that kicks someone out multiple times a day then they should check there connection and figure out why this happens every one needs to secure they have stable connection bevor participating in online games because they screw the games for the other people if they just force it and they should get a penalty atleast this way they have time to fix it
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If youre lowering your mmr because your not having fun, that obviously means your losing. If not why are you playing killer? To demolish people who are way worse then you? Instead of playing people who are as closely matched to your mmr rating as possible. Either way, if youre losing your mmr goes down, so it does the exact same thing as farming, except its not extremely boring. Also, ive played plenty of killer and know what its like. If you dont like it, dont play. Simple.
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Same can be said about your behavior.
Don't play survivor and DC if the game isn't to your liking, cause and i am quoting you: "You are either way going to lose. So what does sitting in the lobby, staring at the penalty timer do, compared to actually playing?"
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This man woke up and decided to hate on farmers.
FARMERS.
Of all the things that needs a change in this game, this ain't it chief.
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Yea each time they dc, they ruin it for 4 people. Thats one match for them. Then they can go onto their next match and enjoy it.I doubt someone's gonna dc in that match. I would say theres a higher chance you get consistent farmers than someone dcing every game. Especially if the cap is 15 minutes. Thats a pretty good amount of time. Anything about that is just unnecessary because in reality it would really only be a small percentage of players abusing it anyways. There's like no other games that have extremely excessive dc penalty times like dbd, even competitive games (which dbd is most certainly not). Everyones idea of fun is different, so if you find farming fun, cool. But I shouldnt have to sit there and suffer, especially when its multiple games in a row bro. And sometimes having bad internet is just simply out of your control. Im not saying there should be no penalty. Just saying it shouldnt stack. Or it should reset. For example: if you have 24 hours, you have to wait a day for it to go back to 12 hours, then another day for 6, then 1 hour, then 30 mins, then 15 a couple times, then 5. It cant just go back to 5 after one day of not dcing. If you have a bad connection or your internet providers are having issues, thats pretty stupid to get a DC penalty that high for something out of your control. And survivors dont have control over the farm games, because its the killer's choice to not try and attack survs. A lot just hit gens or pallets because they want you to throw the pallet or do the gen. Pretty boring if you ask me. Pig is a cool luck killer, but sitting in front of one of her boxes is stupid. Just play her normally, your trap is still probably going to get at least one kill every game with the right addons. I also couldnt really understand the first part of your comment so I tried interpreting it my best, so sorry if I was talking about something unrelated.
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How am I supposed to enjoy the game when all I get is people not playing correctly. 4 farmers back to back tonight. I was pretty excited to play today too. There is plenty of things in the game that need a change, and this most certainly is one. Im not saying I hate you if youre a farmer. Just not my thing. Most of the people I play with feel the same way. They could definitely come up with a fast, easy solution to farming that makes everyone happy. Like reducing the outrageous dc penalty.
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I never said I was unhappy with the game. I said farming ruins the experience, especially when its consistent or I was queued for a while. I love this game, been playing for almost 6 years now. If I was unhappy with it, I would've quit a long time ago. I have probably ran into more farmers than games you've played. I (myself) find it very annoying. If you dont have an issue with it, thats fine, but clearly farming is not enjoyable for everyone, so if you dont want to do it, you shouldnt be forced to. People are getting so unhappy about this post, when im not hating on the game or anything, im hating on a way people play which is annoying to me, and others. The way people are reacting shows you where the communities mindset is at. And before you bring up my name lmao its supposed to be ironic, not serious. And who would sit in a lobby and stare at the dc penalty? Thats just stupid. And whats wrong with my behavior? Im just voicing my annoyance with how people play, not even the players themselves.
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"Not playing correctly."
Hard to Swallow Pills:
People can play however they want and you don't get to dictate what is "correct".
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LMAO and thats where I stop taking you seriously. Thats a really stupid argument to try and make. Youre telling me you think the devs intended people to farm when they were developing the game? Nope. So thats not how its supposed to be played. :)
Give me an actual good reason why farming isnt boring. You may like it, but I most certainly do not. Nothing is wrong with that.
The correct way to play the game is try and hook survivors while they try to do gens. Not hard to do that whatsoever. Thats how the devs intended people to play the game. If every single player on dead by daylight farmed do you think people would play? Nope. Not in a million years. Come up with a better argument.
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Still waiting for someone to explain to me how farming is actually healthy for the game instead of getting salty because im not okay with people playing in a boring way 😂
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The argument is people can play however they want.
You don't get to tell people how to play.
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>Give me an actual good reason why farming isnt boring.
you interact with players in a funny way crouching or waving your head or whatever you can do with the bare minimum of actions you can perform. Its actually quite fun to engage survivor so he understands that you won't hunt him.
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I just did lol. You are yet to give me a reason why farming isnt stupid. Thats like saying "you dont get to tell people how to play football. they can play how they want." or literally any sport. There is no difference. They are both games being played by people with specific ways they are meant to be played. Thats also still not an actual reason, im sorry to tell you.
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Thats not an actual reason. Thats just you trying to be funny. Other people might find it enjoyable I guess, but once again I should not have to suffer through that because you dont want to play the game correctly. Sitting there hitting a pallet because you want to be stunned is not how the devs intened people to play. Messing around with the killers is fun, but thats a different story for when a game turns into random nonsense like that somehow. That's actually pretty funny. Not when someone loads into a match with the intention to not play right.
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Refusing to play the game and staying afk is reportable. Lowering their MMR or not doesn't matter.
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Not an actual reason. Go ahead and read the description of dead by daylight on google, and let me know where it says that the intention of the game is to farm. I'll be waiting :)
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Oh my god.
Such a suffering!
Jesus wept.
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I want to say so many things that will result in an immediate ban
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Thanks for acknowledging how terribly boring farming is. Glad you agree :)
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Still waiting on valid reasons lmao, so far it's just angry people who cant accept that not everyone likes to play boring matches.
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Notice how most of the people on here joined recently, and probably havent had that much experience with farmers. After 6 years, it gets pretty boring. Nothing you can say can change that. Sorry you guys havent experienced it enough to be bored of it. I liked it at first too.
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Well, I can say that most of the matches are pretty boring. Same perks, same killers, you know.
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I even wondered when I got the game. ^^
Purchased: Jun 20, 2016 @ 7:10am
Dead by Daylight
btw i don't remember buying it lol
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One more time:
YOU DO NOT GET TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO PLAY.
You don't get to tell people they can't screw around anymore than I can tell people not to run perks I don't like.
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Forum join date doesn't mean anything
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Since you didnt read what I said- Ill do it for you.
Dead by Daylight is a multiplayer (4vs1) horror game where one player takes on the role of the savage Killer, and the other four players play as Survivors, trying to escape the Killer and avoid being caught and killed.
Farming is not mentioned anywhere in there.
Clearly you dont like perks like dead hard, so you decide to go farm because you dont want to quit but you dont want to play correctly? How does that add up.
I am going to keep telling people to not farm because the devs didnt create the game to be played for that reason. Sorry to break it to you.
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Purchased: Feb 32, 1867 @ 7:10am
Dead by Daylight
That proves everything.
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I wonder when I got mine. Let me check.
Purchased: Feb 32, 1894 @ 6:63 PM
Dead by Daylight
I forgot when I downloaded my game too.
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It doesn't. But the later you joined, the more likely it is that you are newer to the game.
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I dont mind those perks and killers because I play and run them so that would just make me a hypocrite. Im sorry you find them boring, thats an issue you have with the game. Just like how my issue is farming :)
Both things are equally their own issue and thats okay. Dont need to be ruthless because youre angry I dont like how people play- especially when im not being a jerk unless someones dishing it out.
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And how they choose to play is up to them.
YOU don't get to play gameplay cop.
If I wanna run a Basement Chest Defender meme build, I will.
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Not how it works. You are supposed to play the game as described, like most players do.
I am the gameplay police. Boohoo.
Basement bubba is the only acceptable form of boring gameplay because at least thats funny.
SEEMS like most farmers are pretty bad at the game but dont quit. You wanna waste your money on the game by doing that? Sure, go ahead. But dont expect to not get made fun of because you play in a way that bores others.
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If I wanna run a Basement Chest Defender meme build, I will.
You cannot just let them take the basement chest! \o/
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I can get behind this. Nobody touches Bubba's chest.
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Yeah, people can go play a JRPG if they wanna farm with bots or NPCs or whatever. I didn’t buy Dead by Daylight for that ish. Regardless of how bad the grind is or any other reason.
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Farming is no worse than DCing, which people seem to do a LOT. I don't see you out here calling for bans on people who DC.
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But that's not playing the game correctly..
It could be funny to you, but not for another person, you see?
Let people play how they want as long as they are not AFK (that's bannable if done repeatedly) and get out of the match as soon as you can if you're not having fun
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Because DCing already comes with its own built-in punishment system? And isn’t reportable? But farming is.
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If your MMR is even moderately high you shouldn't be seeing many farmers anyway
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Never said I do, and past the point. Same as the guy last week railing on me about the DS skill check issue, when I don’t have any problems with it myself. If something is a problem with the game, it’s a problem. Doesn’t matter if it’s mine personally or not.
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I never understood this farming lark.
Sure I had a laugh one game with a Ghostface and us all in a line tbagging to the sound of his heartbeat.
Are they just making it easier to pip up again after reset with the same killer? At other players expense.
In general it's utterly boring. I got more bp quicker actually playing the game as survivor so I would just leave.
Trouble is you have to join in enough so you don't depip.
As a killer even if a survivor drops their tool I will shake my head. They either run or get hit.
I find it cute but they would most likely show no mercy to me at the gate before leaving.
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They are equally as bad, but at least DCing is justified in certain cases, You cant ever justify farming. You wanna get a challenge done? Play the game and get it naturally, instead of throwing a game to get a 30k bloodpoint challenge when you couldve gotten that+ the points from actually playing properly. DCing is justified in certain cases when someone is farming, or someone drops shack pallet at 5 gens.
I was doing the opposite of calling out bans for people who dc, I was saying they need to lower the stupid amount of hours that it can go up to. I cant think of another video game (there obviously are though, but its not common because its stupid) that makes the amount of time go up for each dc. At the least, it should reset every day. Not even competitive games, which dbd is not.
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I fully agree.
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Is this a regional thing or something? I rarely see farmers. I mean, I can go for weeks without seeing a single farming killer.
The only time killers not playing aggressively bothers me is if it prevents me from doing a Tome challenge, but that's a minor thing.
Anyway, "playing correctly" might be overrated. I constantly see people talking about how miserable they are playing killer on these forums. Meanwhile, I've watched my friend have a lot of fun as Piggy, match after match of just pretending to be a survivor working on gens. He especially enjoys roaring constantly. Maybe it's the rest of us who are playing DbD wrong.
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Lol, was waiting for this comment.
Thats because I dont get basement bubbas NEARLY as much as I get farmers. Not even close.
People can play how they want? Dont complain about people being toxic then. Teabagging's fine with that logic. Flashlight clicking? Awesome. You know what. What if someone wants to hack? At least people on the forums are saying you can play however you want, so thats okay.
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