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So Borrowed Time got changed in the PTB?
@Nickenzie
@Tsulan
@Orion
Or really anyone who wants to answer-
Can you guys fill me in on this?
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Because it does not deplite anymore if you are in a chase, and you can heal from it even if you dont have self care.
If this is not a buff, i dont know what it is.14 -
The Deep Would effect it provides got a buff. The perk itself was nerfed. This is the reverse of what happened to Self-Care, where healing was nerfed, but the perk remained the same.
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Also atm is not affected by mangled and similar, also nurse calls doesn't detect it
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Yup. Deep Wound (the name of the effect wherein a Survivor bleeds out after some time) will not have its timer deplete during a chase, and you can Mend (not heal; this will just cancel the bleedout timer but it will not heal by one health state) without any perks.
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Yep, this is the first killer that have a power that actually buffed survivors...
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@Orion said:
Yup. Deep Wound (the name of the effect wherein a Survivor bleeds out after some time) will not have its timer deplete during a chase, and you can Mend (not heal; this will just cancel the bleedout timer but it will not heal by one health state) without any perks.
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Is clearly stated in the patch notes they did this change because of this killer
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You didn't get what i'm saying.
The new killer put you in the deep wound status (basically it activate borrow time on you) so the devs changed that status in what we have now in the ptb, is indirect but this is a buff to birrow time, made bacause of the new killer ability.1 -
@Kalec84 said:
You didn't get what i'm saying.
The new killer put you in the deep wound status (basically it activate borrow time on you) so the devs changed that status in what we have now in the ptb, is indirect but this is a buff to birrow time, made bacause of the new killer ability.I get what you mean to say, but what you're actually saying - that the Legion buffs Survivors with his power - is ridiculous.
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Deep Wound status effect will put you into the dying state if you bleed out but you don't bleed if you're in a chase.
You need to Mend to get out, exactly like Snap Out of It but without the skillchecks. Mend doesn't count like a healing action and isn't detectable with NC or affected by Thanatophobia / Fear of Clowns.0 -
Nah, i dont intend that, i mean that the new killer power have buffed "in general" survivors, by introducing this new version of bt
(Im italian, my english is not that good, i try to keep it simple )1 -
The bad decision is that BT is now the same as "deep wounds".
It could have stayed different effects, but they choose to make it the same.
Which was a bad decision and a huge buff to BT and survivor in general.8 -
I mean hey, at least its not the ptsd nightmare fuel that was the old BT, that ######### still keeps me from sleeping
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While we're talking about the "buff", they also introduced a "nerf":
"When in a locker once the Bleedout timer has ended, Survivors will automatically exit the locker"
Any killer main that also wants to complain about that?
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@Pizzaman said:
While we're talking about the "buff", they also introduced a "nerf":"When in a locker once the Bleedout timer has ended, Survivors will automatically exit the locker"
Any killer main that also wants to complain about that?
Not a Killer main, but it just makes sense that you leave the locker when you're in the dying state.
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That's interesting, I had assumed that mend only applied to the effect created by the killer's power, and borrowed time was still much the same. So basically, the timer is shorter, but tunnelling a survivor on BT is discouraged and they can do the same thing they used to do to recover, except they now don't need self care to do it?
Also @Orion You needn't be so harsh on @Kalec84 . If you understand what he means to say, then surely that's more important at this point, given that he has managed to communicate his true point one way or another. There's no reason to keep going on about the words he used when you know what he actually meant.
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@Fibijean said:
That's interesting, I had assumed that mend only applied to the effect created by the killer's power, and borrowed time was still much the same. So basically, the timer is shorter, but tunnelling a survivor on BT is discouraged and they can do the same thing they used to do to recover, except they now don't need self care to do it?Also @Orion You needn't be so harsh on @Kalec84 . If you understand what he means to say, then surely that's more important at this point, given that he has managed to communicate his true point one way or another. There's no reason to keep going on about the words he used when you know what he actually meant.
There's a reason to keep going on about the words he used because that's what everyone is going to read. Intent cannot be divined from plain text.
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@Orion said:
@Fibijean said:
That's interesting, I had assumed that mend only applied to the effect created by the killer's power, and borrowed time was still much the same. So basically, the timer is shorter, but tunnelling a survivor on BT is discouraged and they can do the same thing they used to do to recover, except they now don't need self care to do it?Also @Orion You needn't be so harsh on @Kalec84 . If you understand what he means to say, then surely that's more important at this point, given that he has managed to communicate his true point one way or another. There's no reason to keep going on about the words he used when you know what he actually meant.
There's a reason to keep going on about the words he used because that's what everyone is going to read. Intent cannot be divined from plain text.
I would agree with you, except that he also clarified what he meant later on. Intent can be divined from plain text if the intent is stated in the text. But just in case someone does get the wrong idea, and since he's already admitted English isn't his native language, I'll say it for him (and @Kalec84 feel free to correct me if I get it wrong).
What he's trying to say is that even though the killer's power didn't buff survivors directly, its introduction into the game necessitated some changes which buffed survivors. So there wasn't direct causation, but if the killer hadn't been introduced those buffs wouldn't have been either.
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Well, the timer doesn't decrease when the survivor is in a chase.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:It got nerfed from what I hear... it now only lasts 10/15/20 seconds. Why are some people saying it got buffed?
@Nickenzie
@Tsulan
@Orion
Or really anyone who wants to answer-
Can you guys fill me in on this?
Additionally, you don't need selfcare to get out of the BT state since you can mend.
That's why it got buffed lol.0 -
@Fibijean said:
@Orion said:
@Fibijean said:
That's interesting, I had assumed that mend only applied to the effect created by the killer's power, and borrowed time was still much the same. So basically, the timer is shorter, but tunnelling a survivor on BT is discouraged and they can do the same thing they used to do to recover, except they now don't need self care to do it?Also @Orion You needn't be so harsh on @Kalec84 . If you understand what he means to say, then surely that's more important at this point, given that he has managed to communicate his true point one way or another. There's no reason to keep going on about the words he used when you know what he actually meant.
There's a reason to keep going on about the words he used because that's what everyone is going to read. Intent cannot be divined from plain text.
I would agree with you, except that he also clarified what he meant later on. Intent can be divined from plain text if the intent is stated in the text. But just in case someone does get the wrong idea, and since he's already admitted English isn't his native language, I'll say it for him (and @Kalec84 feel free to correct me if I get it wrong).
What he's trying to say is that even though the killer's power didn't buff survivors directly, its introduction into the game necessitated some changes which buffed survivors. So there wasn't direct causation, but if the killer hadn't been introduced those buffs wouldn't have been either.
Exactly, tnx for the translation
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I think the idea is to
move quickly and keep pinballing around until they are all in bleedout state. Then you go in for the kill.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7AinOjDiNQ
