I was T-Bagged 6 times today by Ghostfaces, can someone explain how it's offensive or upsetting?
I'm just curious is all, it happened multiple times but I feel absolutely nothing at all, I don't feel personally attacked or targeted and see absolutely no rational as to why so many people are upset by survivors doing it?
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Perhaps a bad day?
If I play a good match and I know that I contributed really hard, I don't mind the TB, but if I had to face nurses, bleets, or whatever in a row before that one, then I may feel tilted. I don't mind GF that much though. I've always seen him as a meme-y killer.
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GF can trigger his power by tbagging
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idk it doesn't bother me I'm just trying to find out why killers find it so offensive when it had no impact on the game,
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i guess it always depends on context.
teabagging back and forth between survs and ghostie can be hilarious and fun after all.
but generally, teabagging in gaming is considered an offensive gesture, and since most people are aware of that it is perceived as such. Especially after certain actions that are already frustrating.
think about showing someone the middle finger. It’s actually a harmless gesture and doesn’t hurt anyone. But we all know what it means (in the modern western world at least)
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I dont get tilted by it either but I believe the reason a lot of people do its because someone loooooong ago decided doing crouching motions over the corpse of other players after killing them was a way of asserting dominance and it catched on.
First time I remember seeing that was in Counter Strike Beta 5.0 so more than 20 years ago, I dont recall seeing it in Quake 2 nor Quake 1, and you couldnt crouch in Doom 1 or 2, I believe it may have started with Counter Strike.
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People can’t separate the fantasy world from the real world basically.
You get angry when you lose so you get extra angry if you think someone is taunting you over loss.
Just people upsetting themselves over nothing.
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idk if triggering his power while t-bagging my downed body is what he as going for, lol.
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Ever thought that maybe you're just...numbed?
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It's no offensive or upsetting, it's just a message that player is sad, pathetic and miserable, and play game not for fun, but to somehow hurt others, in anyway.
So you should be ashamed yourself, you should be mad and scream in rage, not indifferent!
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I guess I am invalid because of one player’s experience in one day
D:
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T-bagging is the video game equivalent of a touchdown dance, a way to say “In Your Face” after scoring a point. I don’t get angry when people do them against me, although I do think it’s kind of dumb. I get a bit more irritated with survivors who decide they just want to hang around in the Exits t-bagging instead of leaving and ending the game, it’s just dragging things out for no reason at that point.
I will say though that the people who t-bag when they beat you at a pallet, but then who turn around and disconnect when you down them and/or who insult you in chat after the game as a “tunneler/camper/bad killer/etc” are insecure babies who like to dish it out when they think they’re in the superior position but are the sorest of losers when they’re not. Not everybody who t-bags is that type of jerkwad, but those types of jerkwads do love to rub it in when they win.
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I am rather wondering how you played against 6 Ghostfaces. Sure it wasn't the same guy?
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Definitely wasn't the same guy, I've had a lot of Ghostfaces tonight 🤷🏽♂️
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Play killer and find out.
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I do play killer and it still doesn't bother me, weird.
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Doesn't bother me either. I just hate clicky clicky because it is actually irritating to listen to. Your story is just weird because it is from a survivors pov when normally it is a killer issue. Nobody would find a tbagging ghostface annoying, especially since doing that is buying your team time on gens so its a good thing that they do it.
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Or?
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Why do you keep saying "numb" some people just aren't bothered by like little characters bobbing up and down, it's so incredibly insignificant I can't fathom trying to be this offended all the time it must be exhausting.
Do you think everything annoys everyone and only people who aren't annoyed by things as little as this have just experienced it so much that they're "numb" to it? jfc dude it's people pressing ctrl on a keyboard or a button on their controller, it isn't as deep as you want it to be,
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Wait, what?
Players on this forum act as though t-bagging is a literal hate crime, they consider it actual bullying and harassment, If it's actually bullying or harassment I don't think "buying time for your team mates" would alleviate the clearly traumatic events of being bullied/harassed in such a way.
Why is t-bagging only offensive if survivors do it, but it's actually just a nice thing for your team if killers do it?
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You shouldn't be bothered by playstyles either then, and "ruining of the events" by "evil" killers not farming with you.
It is just players playing the game bro. Don't be so offended. :)
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Because meaning is based on common consensus, and teabagging at the end of the game is the equivalent to your opponent at the end of a hard fought rugby game spitting in your face and calling you a loser, rather than shaking your hand.
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This is so warped that you compare t-bagging to having bodily fluids slung at you lmao, I can't believe this community it's embarrassing.
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Where did I say I want to farm with killers, I'll wait for the quote that you clearly have lined up.
Also where am I offended? Because I made a joke post asking how everyone's games were going while I was being face camped? Didn't realize that meant I was offended.
The amount of things you put in quotes that aren't actual quotes is staggering, but it's not rare for the forums to be full of people making things up.
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/eyeroll.
Or...slaps your hand away? Take your choice of bad sportsmanship after a match examples.
The point is that refusing to shake hands after a match alone would probably get you benched and fined IRL. Maybe it's because I'm old, but I've never understood why 'it's the internet' automatically means that all sportsmanship goes out the window, and that you are somehow deficient for not being okay with it.
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You think people get benched and fined for not shaking hands with people? Lmao, I'd love to see the line in any rulebook for that one personally.
I t-bag survivors, I t-bag killers, I t-bag and drop an item for people, i do a lil t-bag on the way out, I guess I'm metaphorically spitting on peoples faces, lol.
Never said "it's the internet" get over it, I'm a pretty big advocate for being friendly to people but t-bagging is literally just nothing to me it means nothing when someone does it, if you genuinely think people that t-bag in dbd would jump at the chance of spitting on your face which is vile then idk man, you're probably looking way too deep into something.
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I was refering to your thread where you said that someone tunneling you with the mori is ruining the event. We can find that thread if you want me to and I will quote what you personally said.
Also I put "evil" besides killer not as a quote but as a joke because majority of your posts are survivor sided. I also caught your stream once and you are as unpleasant as you are here on forums, trash talking killer for going after you and then saying something bad about killers from the forums.
That was enough for me to see what kind of person you are buddy.
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It's 2022. People think everything is toxic these days and cry over a video game when someone else is better than them
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This is a deep question.
It's like asking why do people get offended if someone gives them the middle finger. I think its because society ( or a group of people that created a community I'm this case) has collectively decided its a bad gesture. It's completely arbitrary and based on subjective feelings.
sociology is interesting.
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I know this is a bait post where you play dumb, but you are really reaching here.
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Thank you so much for checking out my stream, I appreciate it!
You should go over my posts, it's pretty funny because there isn't a single thing on the killer side I would nerf besides the Nurse & her addons, I guess I'm just an evil survivor main 👿
The majority of my posts are news related, my comments are mostly mocking but again, evil survivor main that wants the nurse dead.
Anyway, do you have any tips on what I should talk about while I'm being chased by killers? Seems odd to talk about someone doing a generator while I'm being chased or something.
Edit: Oh I know what you're talking about yea my literal first match was someone who immediately tunneled someone off the hook and moried them, I would definitely say if this was a common thing for people it would ruin the event for them yes, I've been reading that survivors are gen rushing and ruining the event for killers, idk what survivors are supposed to do besides gens, any tips?
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Who's reaching? Someone said t-bagging is like having someone literally spit in your face after a sports event, now that is reaching.
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Yeah I do, but I am not a streamer.
As someone who loves to watch them, don't talk bad about people playing certain way for start.
Also I am sorry if I went overboard. Even if we disagree this is a bad way to talk to people. I might check your stream again sometimes and hope the vibe is different.
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Tell me you don't follow my sports without telling me you don't follow my sports.
Until COVID, you'd most certainly be benched from our Cricket team for poor sportsmanship. Any postgame insults and nastiness would get you yeeted from our Rugby team or get a team imposed fine instantly.
About the only sports I can think of offhand that lack this tradition are Hockey, but that's more to do with logistics. Even FIFA were considering making postgame handshakes mandatory, pre COVID.
Hell, our kendo squad...if you refused to bow after the match, even if you got a good smack to the noggin, you'd likely be off the team. Word one.
As someone smart once said 'play hard during the match, but you shake hands after the game, not just to show respect for the efforts of your opponent, but for the game itself'.
Hell, even in the SC2 proscene, you're expected to type 'GG' and leaving without this would at the very least get you forced into a public apology.
And yes. I really do think that. Because how you treat other people when you have anonymity plus zero recourse from them is one of the biggest indicators of who you are as a person.
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For me it depends on how they act during the trial. Teabagging at the gate? Whatever. Teabagging while camping a pallet however? That’s the toxic one that makes me sad.
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Like, I do play killer, not very often anymore though because I much prefer hanging out in chat with friends or whatever but for me there is nothing a survivor can do to bother me and that's where my mentality comes from.
My understanding is that, survivors are a 'team' and they're supposed to collectively try and escape together, and there is no possible way for survivors to do that without doing gens, and on the killer side they're absolutely supposed to kill survivors and can do that how they please but they don't have to tunnel to win whereas survivors HAVE to do gens to win, and nothing really bothers me on the survivors side either but yea I got annoyed because 4 survivors brought in flans to an event and the killer brings in a mori and relentlessly tunnels this solo player out of their FIRST match of the event, I think it would leave anyone sour honestly.
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Bro I type GG in end game chat and get the killer spewing garbage at me for saying it because it "wasn't a real gg". Literally can't win whether you're 'nice' or not.
and my apologies, I hadn't read this 10 year old article.
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'One rule for me, one rule for thee'.
Killing one person ASAP is the optimal way for the killer to win in many circumstances. Much like slamming out gens as fast as they can and avoiding unnecessary chases and hooks is the optimal way for the survivors to win. Yes, it's possible to win without these things, but - in a tough game, it can be bloody unlikely.
You don't get to be salty about getting tunneled with a mori if killers aren't allowed to be salty about having people show up with 4x BNP, a map offering and a PTS squad.
It's fine, there's no shame in being wrong, only in not admitting it.
Also - yeah, I find that really, really hard to believe. You can't suddenly switch tack from 'I teabag everyone' to 'no, I'm really mannered, trust me'.
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For some, it's a mating dance, for others, it's a way to communicate over long distances
For me, it's to assert dominance
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How is it one rule for me one rule for thee, I quite literally state that killers can do it as they please but in the grand scheme of things they don't HAVE to tunnel to win, survivors HAVE to do gens to win.
Killers can get kills without tunneling, there is no other way for survivors to do gens besides literally sitting on them.
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Yeah, you're missing my point.
Survivors aren't just supposed to 'do gens'. They are supposed to do gens *as fast as possible*, because it's a race between them doing gens and the killer trying to wipe them out. Thus, killers counteract this by removing a player as fast as possible.
Now, I'll try not to do this as far as possible, but sometimes - when you think it's an SWF and it's a bad map - you gotta do what you gotta do, because if you don't go claws out from the get go, you're going to get stomped.
One thing I will say is that, as someone who plays both sides evenly, I frequently see killers 'ease up' when they have control of the game, and there is even a subtle assumption that the killer will let the last survivor get hatch as a gesture of sportsmanship. I know that I get complained at enough when I don't. Although, hell, I get complained at when I do at times too.
On the other hand, in about 800 hours, I've had two survivors, total, give me a 'pity kill' on a game where I didn't get any.
Something tells me that there's a double standard at play here, but that's a different discussion.
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idk man, pity kills just don't feel good to receive, it's weird - I know killer mains who dominate the majority of their matches and give the hatch / doors to the last survivor but would absolutely never give a pity kill. I wish I could explain it but we all know it, giving pity kills just doesn't feel good for either side, and ontop of that survivors average 12 - 15K for a match they die in, but average 17 - 22K in a match they escape in, all because of the giant boost in BP from escaping, it feels good to give the survivor an extra 5 - 7K, I don't know how much a killer gets but they average way more than survivors and one extra kill at end game would net them 1 - 2K I think? I wish it felt better and I can't explain why it doesn't but it's fun to give survivors a hatch or doors but doesn't feel good for the killer or survivor to give them a kill.
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I don't know. I certainly appreciate, and I've been thanked by (often absolutely astonished) killers when I do it.
Killers do lose out on a fair amount of BP for not killing everyone, actually - you get a decent bonus for killing everyone.
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I was hoping you would post here lol.
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Its midnight and Im reading this as a general "why do people hate this"
I think its because tbagging is, both in general gaming culture and especially DbD Survivor culture, used to convey dominance over your defeated opponent. Survivors use it to essentially gloat to the Killer, so to suddenly have a Killer turn that around must hurt.
Same thing with a Killer nodding or shaking their head. Personally, I love yo bag with my GF, especially with Devour Hope moris. Just adds that extra bit
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Was taking a small break from my p3 quest, checked the forums and as soon as i saw the title i thought "its showtime"
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“I also caught your stream once” same lmao. I’ll leave it at that
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Lol, the irony of having two people slate my stream on the forums while also telling me I should be nicer to people I meet online.
Weird, very very weird.
Well, I hope you guys enjoy all the streamers you watch that absolutely have never once said a single bad thing about the people they play against ^_^
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The one thing that I find irritating: flashlight macro users. This damn noise is annoying af.
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Since there is only one ghost face, GF teabagging is 100% not offensive.
If there was four, it'll be bullying.
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Dude I swear they've slowed down clicking, some people have said they haven't but it feels way slower on the event flashlights.
maybe it's just me.
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