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How Do Yall Feel About Hillbilly?
I think we all are somewhat familiar with the man himself, Max Thompson Jr.
The reason why Ive asked about Billy is it seems that during the anniversary events, a lot of survivors Ive faced have DCed or let themselves go on first hook over curving. Ive even received a lot of harassment over curving (mind that I havent used any Engravings during the event, Im saving those for later, my addons used for this whole event has been Punctured Muffler and Junkyard Air Filter). A lot of this just led me to question: Do people hate Hillbilly?
Well, to be more exact, is Hillbilly fun to play? Is Hillbilly enjoyable to face? And are there certain builds that people refuse to go against? Id just like to get some of the community thoughts about him.
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I find curving very very frustrating to play against honestly.
Even if it is impressive to see.
It feels cheap even if I know it takes skill.
Don't understand the dc against it tho.
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How.... are people salty over a curving no engraving billy. Thats the easiest version of him to dodge. You basically have to be licking their back to curve someone as that.
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Great basekit. Terrible addons. Engravings is not the best addons. Fight me.
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Most survivors will agree that Billy is enjoyable to face (and I raise an eyebrow at anyone complaining about him nowadays), but the consensus is that he's not nearly as fun to play as he used to be. Part of it is a series of changes that hit him all at once - bad addon pass, overheat, wobbly movement cam, roar when he starts sprinting - but part of it is that he also got powercrept by a lot of killers that could suddenly do parts of his kit better than he can. Oni is a smoother, easier to hit, more forgiving Billy when he charges up his power. Bubba has a far easier time scoring instadowns with his chainsaw and a far lower skill floor. Blight has stronger map mobility and an easier time using his power to hit people. As it stands, while Billy takes an immense amount of skill to master, the payoff isn't really worth it compared to what other killers can do with that same level of mastery.
Plus they just killed Skybilly, which was the last beloved thing Billy was famous for. It's likely you're just facing salty survivors who'd quit over anything that went poorly for them.
I'm personally pretty terrible with him, though I haven't put in the time to try beyond knocking out his achievements and archive challenges (unlike Nurse, who I did spend time on and am still terrible with.)
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Personally, Apex Muffler with Leafy Mash is an insanely good combo, maybe throw in Tinkerer, Dark Devotion, and H: Plaything and you got a really solid build. It's been pretty fun and successful since people dont expect it at all.
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Either iridescent with turn speed is an absolute blast to play. Apex with tinkerer alone can allow you to walk right up to a gen with a 99'd chainsaw. The turn speed just helps you get there.
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I LOVE facing curve Billys, but it may be because I actually know how to run them.
A lot of people tend to dc vs killers they refuse to learn how to play against, but i wouldn't care less.
I can get my cheeks absolutely clapped and i'll take it as learning experience, leaving the game early won't teach me anything.
So no, i don't hate Billy in any shape and form. Billy players are a super rare sight nowadays anyway, i'll cherish every single one of them i'll meet, I just wish they didn't gave up so easily on chases :(
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I haven’t seen a Billy in a long time. To the point that I’d probably DC just because I thought I’d mistakenly spawned into a forbidden past realm and needed to return to the present…
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Certified Time Travel Moment
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He feels clunky and so slow to play,he's just not a fun smooth killer to play anymore our Billyboi got butchered sadly...
he can be good if you take the time to master him and learn how to curve even tho curving won't work against decent survivors and people should know to never hug loops against a Billy.
Most of his add-ons are just terrible,the engravings are cool for the curves montages but the slower chainsaw charge can punish Beginner-Intermediate Billys should never use the engravings.
I use the steering add-ons since I am not that good at Billy and Dad's Boots helps me alot.
Overall a decent killer with lethality and mobility but takes alot of practice and is one of the hardest killers in the game.
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I would argue that learning with the Death Engravings, the charge time is manageable and the speed boost lets people get a better grasp over managing the speed.
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Remove overheat mechanic, roar and remove the extra second bump penalty
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Good mobility, weak anti-loop and boring addons overall. Can be good but one of the hardest killers in the game and doesnt reward you as much as Blight, Nurse or Sprit.
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boring to play, super fun to play against anyone who complains about going against a billy is a #########. I'll complain tho if they're a m1illy
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Unlike majority of community, I actually hate facing billy. And demo as well
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Idk I'm sure he's a blast to play as, I just never can. And because he's so rare to face it's normally quite fun, like I'm sure Blight would be if my games weren't so oversaturated with the bastard. I wish they'd fix his animations though
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That's it,
Grabbing my bubba and facecamping you.
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I'm stubborn to drop a chase if i want to chainsaw...
Fite me rn, 1v1 curveboi billy
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As much as I'd love to, I have to refuse. I can't take chases seriously in customs, I need the actual game going around me to make decisions where to go and where not.
But if we ever meet in regular game, I'll take you for a ride with pleasure
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Shouldn't have been changed in the first place.
Billy used to be one of the best 3 killers at the time, alongside nurse and spirit. No one ever complained about Billy, in fact a lot of people found in fun to play as AND go against.
Only change he needed was a rework to his addons.
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Quit flirtin' and chase already.
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am a billy main and i get basically only positive feedback for curving especially, if anyone ever cries its usually about how they felt i played mean more then the actual curves
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do not ever remove the roar AAARRGGGHHH 4L
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Hillbilly is still fun to play, but requires a lot of effort to master correctly, but overheat essentially punishes you for trying use your power as much as possible a pretty dumb mechanic considering his power isn’t oppressive enough to warrant overheat. And his add-ones are pretty weak. Hopefully one day the overheat heat is reverted and add-ons made viable.
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Billy isn't Demogorgon or Artist, so I can't love him
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Demogorgon is also pretty fun, just wish all of his addons werent portal related, just wish they have more interactions with Shred.
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can play literally every killer beside him and blight
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We got 3 stacks of STBFL for Shred, Brutal Strength Shred, Unrelenting Shred and zero addons that apply Mangled, Hemmorage when shredding.
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I just want some addons to increase the range or speed of Shred, I want to go absolutely THOOOMING towards survivors.
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Revert overheat, stupid change
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Facing off against a good, curving master Billy is an absolute nightmare and I hate it with a passion. I hope they don't remove the overheat mechanic and they'll stay a rare species.
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Weaker than Wraith.
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At least they are better than Sadako, then again, I dont think anything is weaker than Sadako.
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give him more turning control and another addon pass
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I went against a good Billy last night for the first time in ages, and we got wrecked. Billys are rare, and really good Billys are an endangered species. But you have to respect a master Billy.
I know that once we can use custom bot matches as practice, I am going to take a legit crack at learning Billy for the first time, as his learning curve has been a deterrent.
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Survivors just hate everyone but themselves, don't worry
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And I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but doesn't Billy have like zero slowdown built in?
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Can you blame em? Once they miss that chainsaw hit, he's just a basic M1 that you run for 5 minutes isn't he?
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He was only best 3 when there was 3 killers, lol
Jk
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To be fair, most killers don't have slowdown baked in. Off the top of my head, that's just Pig, Pinhead, Legion, Doctor, and Sadako-in-theory-but-not-really.
He has high map mobility, which is in many ways equivalent to slowdown because it means you can interrupt gens, but its usage has waned as more indoor maps and complex main buildings have been created, and that map traversal has been hugely eclipsed by on-demand teleporters.
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Yeah... I don't think they were thinking of Billy with garden of joy, at least what I saw of it
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There are spots in bushes where you can stand where you physically cannot chainsaw them. Ive had people run to that spot everytime Id pull my chainsaw up. BHVR really needs to look at that map's collision, it is awful.
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I’ve complained a lot about the (completely unnecessary) Hillbilly nerfs, but I’m starting to get a bit more used to him. I’ve been using spirit fury and enduring, which has helped me get some chainsaw hits after the pallet insta-breaks.
I agree that nearly all his add-ons are pure garbage. It’s a crime what BHVR did to his add-ons
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Wow... that's garbage, lol
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Mechanically, I dont think his basekit is as bad as people make it out to be, overheating is just an inconvenience but I dont really see myself overheating a lot anyways, even for a mostly M2 Billy.
I just think his addons need some tuning since a lot are useless or work against his power as a whole.
I think his addons are comparable to Oni's really, they have a few decent ones, but the rest are just awful, very awful.
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Interaction with the Billy trying to curve and me trying to dodge, very fun.
Billy overall, not fun. This is because everytime Billy comes up on you it's just a pallet/window check. No pallet or window? Free down with no counter play if the Billy is even remotely decent. The hit box on the saw is just too forgiving to dodge in a dead zone revving up on your back.
With most other killers that dead zone is just a hit, not an insta down and with most other killers you also have plenty of heads up to not get caught in a dead zone but with Billy's mobility it can be pretty common to get put into a dead zone without much forewarning.
Not saying Billy is over powered or anything even remotely like that. Just that going down because oh..no pallet or window..guess I'm getting insta downed isn't fun and diminishes the fun he does actually give at loops with curving.
Contrast this to say Oni who I do find much more fun as even in a dead zone there is out play potential from his wind up and hit box that gives more room to actually dodge it.
As far as playing as Billy, not my cup of tea. He's probably my least played killer out of the entire killer roster. Feels clunky to use with the chainsaw control. Same reason I'm not a fan of playing Oni.
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I mean is Billy downing you in a deadzone really different from any other insta-down killer? I mean, they put you in an awful position or you put yourself in an awful position; either way the Billy is being rewarded for their actions and your mistake, just like any other game. If Im playing an FPS game and I get shot because Im in an open field, I wont get mad, because I put myself in that awful position, and the guy who killed me still had to put some level of skill into hitting me; I dont see it any different from Billy.
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Survivors DC/suicide for the pettiest reason nowadays. Nothing to do with Billy.
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"I mean is Billy downing you in a deadzone really different from any other insta-down killer? I mean, they put you in an awful position or you put yourself in an awful position"
Yes, it is different. Most all the other insta down killers don't have high mobility. Meaning that I have a much less likelyhood of being caught in a dead zone.
"either way the Billy is being rewarded for their actions and your mistake, just like any other game."
I mean there's a gen in a dead zone and he zooms up since you have little heads up...that isn't a mistake on my part. There was no misplay involved. Now if it's like Red Forest or something where I should clearly be able to see him coming from afar then sure that's that player making a mistake, but that's more an exception than the rule.
"If Im playing an FPS game and I get shot because Im in an open field, I wont get mad, because I put myself in that awful position, and the guy who killed me still had to put some level of skill into hitting me; I dont see it any different from Billy."
That's a poor analogy that doesn't apply. Apples and oranges. You aren't forced to go into that open field in the FPS, that is a mistake. If a gens in a dead zone that isn't a choice.
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I miss the Big boi. I long for the days back in 2017 when Billy was the only killer anyone ever played and he's the only killer you went against every match for a good 6 months
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