'Off the Records' potential plays essentially forces the killer to focus the Unhooked.
The only way i see to counter Off the Record is to either deny it by hitting the rescued survivor within BT's time frame if that stacks with it or just straight up focus them out. Which does the opposite of what the devs proclaim... Giving how this perk could potentially be as abusive in SWF's teams if it's more than one use, just like current BT body blocking, but now with 80 seconds, if you leave the off the record survivor, they could intervene at any moment, extending a loop, wasting potentially as much time as current Dead Hard does, why would any killer allow that scenario to happen? Especially if combined with New Dead Hard.
Now i'm not sure if the Mending status prevents future endurance effects being applied while afflicted, but in this instance, it should. If it doesn't, then i see no reason not to tunnel you out once i know you have it.
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Yeah, OTR is probably going to need a look before it goes live.
They changed DS because it's frustrating to have an invulnerable survivor teabagging you from the exit gates. Then they made the exact same problem, but worse.
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Yeah i don't understand the logic behind it when they gave that reason for DS. Better off with no Scratch marks , Noise and No aura reveal for 80 seconds in my opinion.
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Does Basekit Borrowed Time and the new Off the Record stack? And does the Mending status prevent future endurance application while afflicted by Mending?
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But isn't a survivor, who is running around for 80s and trying to get your attention with a flashlight, while staying away from gens and healing others, some strong asset? Yeah, I always hated bodyblocking, but it happened regardless of my distaste for it, soooo...
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Not if it's reusable and used by all survivors. 2 on Gens, 1 in chase, unhooked extending that chase further, with additional extension from exhaustion perks. See the problem? At least BT was only like 15 seconds.
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-I believe it will stack but 60 seconds + base line 5 seconds won't be noticeable. As far as what I read.
OTR will only be super valuable in end game escapes. Otherwise, you need to do nothing for 60 secs to retain endurance.
-You can already get endurance while affected by Deep wounds. It resets the deep wound timer and gives you a speed boost
(Source: Legion + Styptic Agent/MoM/)
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Now I know this is a crazy idea but if you see someone unhooking in front of you or before you can get any real distance away, how about you attack the person doing the unhooking instead, and if the unhooked survivor body blocks you, then their fancy endurance is already gone anyway.
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Yeah... there's no way OTR won't be the new hard meta if it goes live. It's a selfish BT, but so much better in every way and with far more aggressive applications as a result. It's basically like DS and BT had a baby. And that baby proceeded to eat its parents and take their power for its own.
I find it ironic that DS got nerfed for endgame because there were situations where killers couldn't do anything about it, but OTR is going to be just as nasty in the endgame if not worse. It not only guarantees you can take a free hit; a killer who doesn't tunnel and hooks several survivors is going to get slammed with a squad of players lining up for bodyblocks, and they'll usher each other out the gate that way. 80 seconds is a long time. Letting every player have it active at once, usable twice per match? Perk definitely needs some solid playtesting.
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it takes what people hated about bt the most and made it into an entire perk. what an absolute joke lmao
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I'm gonna use OTR all the time
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once again you see that these devs dont really know what's going on in matches, are they ? XD
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That's true for BT that has 15 seconds. OTR has 80. The unhooked survivor can get rescued away from you, run at you from across the map and still get the endurance hit. Smart survivors will just keep following you with this perk until you hit them since it is very unlikely that they will get punished for it.
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I have to agree, that's my biggest gripe with it. But also that I can use it to escape for free in the endgame, along with anyone else running it.
My new build will probably be off the record, adrenaline, and hope for free escapes once the doors are open.
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As a solo q player, OTR is going to be a staple in my build if it goes live.
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This. 'Off the Record' implies stealth, which is the entire reason it is currently a stealth perk. It's being turned into an anti-tunneling perk which -heavily- encourages bodyblocking, the opposite of stealth.
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Good? That's fine.
It means they aren't on a generator.
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In endgame yes, in before? Why would you
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Off the record will be highly abused in end game. It will become way worse than decisive strike ever was. At the endgame killer should have all the rights to tunnel and secure a kill because its the endgame. No one should be safe for 80 seconds.
They nerfed decisive strike for this reason to not work at endgame but they make this horrible perk which is way worse in my opinion. I dont care about this perk during the match itself. Sure stay in a corner for 80 seconds dont do anything but at the endgame this will just secure easy out for the survivors.
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It just changes the killers tactic. Instead of tunneling a survivor out at endgame, you'll have to go for hook trades instead.
This actually works put better for both survivors and killer. Survivors feel validated in successful rescuing their team mates, and the killer scores another hook. The killer is then back where they started defending a hooked survivor, so no worse off, and with more BP.
Chances are the hook trades continue and snowball until you eventually hooktrade a survivor on death hook.
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You dont hook trade if you have 2-3 survivors body blocking you and 1 with extra healthstate and thats the issue in this game. I personally never mind hook trades but at the end game you'll take what you can and often you get bodyblocked and decisive striked or dead harded so you lose the kill, and sadly i think this will not change.
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If I know someone has OTR, they're not making it to end game.
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I'll probably equip myc more often and just go after the unhooker.
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The entire point of OTR and the BT basekit change is to make the Killer target the unhooker. The devs even said so. That's good for the game. The only item I would add is that a Conspicuous Action includes being fully healed or have the first hit on a survivor with Endurance drop a healthy survivor to injured.
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