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New Off the record is op and stronger then current unnerfed DS

Since I read all feedback is taken in I'm putting in my feedback. The new Off the record is completely broken. They're nerfing DS to where it stuns for less time, and deactivates at end game after the last gen is done. That seemed alright, but now they're adding a even stronger then current DS off the record. 1.it last longer, 80 seconds max. 2. Doesn't require you to be in dying state, the killer can't slug you as a counter/leave you requiring another survivor to pick them up or to use their perk like unbreakable to save themselves. 3. Unlike a short stun(new DS), off the record goes off by being hit which gives a speed boost. Some of the complaints about the new DS is that the short stun allows stronger killers like nurse a easier time catching up. This is completely negated with a perk like off the record which does exactly the same job as DS but better given chances are the nurse will use her blinks to hit you and will have to wait to regain her tokens unlike the new DS where after they down you can wait for it to recharge while a survivor is on the ground 4. Can go off 2 times after getting unhooked since it isn't 1 time use like DS. 5. can be utilized to body block multiple times in a game, especially useful on body blocking death hook survivors and survivors the were unhooked near each other. 6. Works in end game, unlike the new DS. a free escape after getting unhooked.

Comments

  • Tatt3dWon
    Tatt3dWon Member Posts: 514

    otr sucks what you gonna do get off the hook and stand there lol.

  • Tatt3dWon
    Tatt3dWon Member Posts: 514
    edited June 2022

    If you heal it goes away. So no it wont work like that.

  • eleventbh
    eleventbh Member Posts: 374

    The point is that they don't want people to run DS, even if it means making DS weaker at it's job and overtuning Off the Record.

  • Tatt3dWon
    Tatt3dWon Member Posts: 514
    edited June 2022

    Its the same as ds if someone heals you it goes away. Even though its bhvr they arent that stupid.

  • fulltonon
    fulltonon Member Posts: 5,762

    something that only works for tunneling is fine anyways

  • Bardon
    Bardon Member Posts: 1,004
  • MrMori
    MrMori Member Posts: 1,629


    Note that opening gate is a new thing that will disable DS, but DS is now disabled after gates are powered (all gens are complete) anyway.

    Off the Record will take its place, unfortunately. They say they dont want guaranteed escapes but add this?

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited June 2022

    Well they said they nerfed DS because they didn't want a perk to guarantee free escapes in end game.

    Then release a perk that guarantees a free escape in end game..and is even better than old DS...makes total sense.


    Also, why does not only OTR but also BT not deactive when gates are powered just like DS? They're serving the same purpose. Yeah touching the gate deactivates them..but someone else just opens the door..or they literally just open it before saving.

  • Cameragosha
    Cameragosha Member Posts: 630

    OTR should get nerfed.

  • Oiry
    Oiry Member Posts: 218

    No, not really. If a killer hardcore tunnels someone, then sure. Be my guest! Off the record all day. The problem is that good, and even just decent survivors will do what they do with current DS. They stay next to the killer, annoy him, waste their time, bodyblock for their teammates, etc.

    Don't get me wrong, this is usually a good play to do (although many survivors are awful at utilizing their DS, hopping into a locker and giving it up in 10 seconds tops inviting the killer to then tunnel them, because they basically just told them "hey, I don't have DS anymore"). If the survivors get the tools, why not use them? But that is not "works for tunneling" anymore. That is just an additional 3rd health state to use more and more.

    When i play killer 99% of the time I don't want to tunnel anyone off the hook. But if you stay near me to annoy, or block with BT, I'll wait it out, and down you after. With OTR that is pretty much impossible. Considering in the majority of maps you can literally body block the killer and force him to hit you, it is not just for tunneling. It is just a 3rd health state perk.

    Its even stronger than DS in a way, because (unless you get grabbed) with DS the killer can still generate slug pressure while downing the person. With OTR you hit the survivor and they get the speed boost to run to safety.

  • catkillsmouse
    catkillsmouse Member Posts: 244

    Ye OTR gonna be pretty wild easy saves.

  • RpTheHotrod
    RpTheHotrod Member Posts: 1,934

    It's going to be a problem when you have 4 people running it all having the same skin. 3 people just constantly run around looping the killer. The killer won't be able to figure out which one is protected and have to tear through NINE health states while the 4th member is off on a gen somewhere. Killer try to get to the gen repairer? Then they just run around in circles, wasting even more time while the gen one sneaks off to continue doing a gen. Killer downs and hooks one? They just get unhooked and join the loop confusing party again.

    On top of that, even if you don't have a SWF doing this, hitting ANYONE you have ever hooked will became a game of chance if it'll even have an affect. You see two survivors you've hooked before, which one do you chase down? Who knows if either of them have repaired a gen or are going to be immune to your hit.

    This is just a terrible, TERRIBLE game design decision. Turns the game into a game of chance every time you strike someone.

  • TheMadCat
    TheMadCat Member Posts: 2,203
  • MrMori
    MrMori Member Posts: 1,629

    Why couldn't they just double down on the current effects of OTR? It doesn't have to be 80 seconds if that's too much.

    Make it 40 seconds of no scratchmarks, no blood pools, no injured sounds, and immunity to aura reading, cancelled by conspicuous actions. Why should anyone run BT when Off the Record exists? Why change the whole theme of the perk anyway? Come on, this change is straightforward.