DEVS need to be proactive like DEVS of fallout

Dinaqma

Huge props to the devs of fallout for banning homophobic players. It’s a shame the DEVS of DBD don’t follow suite. There’s so many homophobic players, and homophobic messages sent in this game.. and y’all don’t care or won’t care...I’ve reported numerous people for homophobic remarks made towards me.. and nothing happens. 

Boss

If they're truly showing off that they're homophobic, they'll gain a temporary ban (which will eventually lead to a permanent one if done too many times) and, in severe cases, a permanent one.
"Nothing happens" means they weren't being homophobic.

Orion

You can't see temporary bans, so you can't know if something happened.

BeanieEnthusiast

Dinaqma said:

Huge props to the devs of fallout for banning homophobic players. It’s a shame the DEVS of DBD don’t follow suite. There’s so many homophobic players, and homophobic messages sent in this game.. and y’all don’t care or won’t care...I’ve reported numerous people for homophobic remarks made towards me.. and nothing happens. 

Who cares

Orion

@BeanieEnthusiast said:
Who cares

People who care if the rules are broken care. Those who stand for anarchy obviously do not.

BeanieEnthusiast

Orion said:

@BeanieEnthusiast said:
Who cares

People who care if the rules are broken care. Those who stand for anarchy obviously do not.

‘Anarchy’. Lol okay.. 

Orion

@BeanieEnthusiast said:
‘Anarchy’. Lol okay.. 

Well, I was assuming you're not a homophobe and that your reply meant that you didn't care if people who broke the rules actually got punished for it. Was my assumption faulty?

BeanieEnthusiast

Orion said:

@BeanieEnthusiast said:
‘Anarchy’. Lol okay.. 

Well, I was assuming you're not a homophobe and that your reply meant that you didn't care if people who broke the rules actually got punished for it. Was my assumption faulty?

I’m not discussing this on the forums. 

Orion

@BeanieEnthusiast said:
I’m not discussing this on the forums. 

I think we can all extrapolate from that.

BeanieEnthusiast

Orion said:

@BeanieEnthusiast said:
I’m not discussing this on the forums. 

I think we can all extrapolate from that.

Ha ha so funny. 

Orion

@BeanieEnthusiast said:
Ha ha so funny. 

I know, right? My gay boyfriend loves my sense of humor.

Might_Oakk

This about sums up my views on it. My favourite part is Fallout 2 npcs calling players f@[[]:t. Now they ban 4 life lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX70saX-zhs&t=242s

NMCKE

Orion said:

@BeanieEnthusiast said:
Who cares

People who care if the rules are broken care. Those who stand for anarchy obviously do not.

^This. They are people as well and everyone should be treated equally.

Orion

@Nickenzie said:
^This. They are people as well and everyone should be treated equally.

Keep reading. The guy already implied that my assumption was wrong.

The_Crusader

I don'r get how they have a word filter on the forums but not in game. It's such a simple fix.

Also take Overwatch's idea, and when someome types "gg ez" it changes it to "i have to go, mummy says its bed time now".

Orion

@The_Crusader said:
I don'r get how they have a word filter on the forums but not in game. It's such a simple fix.

Also take Overwatch's idea, and when someome types "gg ez" it changes it to "i have to go, mummy says its bed time now".

Are you serious about Overwatch? Because if so, that's the best thing I've heard all day.

The_Crusader

Orion said:

@The_Crusader said:
I don'r get how they have a word filter on the forums but not in game. It's such a simple fix.

Also take Overwatch's idea, and when someome types "gg ez" it changes it to "i have to go, mummy says its bed time now".

Are you serious about Overwatch? Because if so, that's the best thing I've heard all day.

Yeah lol

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/gg-ez-overwatch/

Orion

@The_Crusader said:
Yeah lol

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/gg-ez-overwatch/

Now I almost wish I did play Overwatch just to type in "gg ez" and see those hilarious messages. XD

NMCKE

Orion said:

@Nickenzie said:
^This. They are people as well and everyone should be treated equally.

Keep reading. The guy already implied that my assumption was wrong.

If your assumption is wrong then I think he needs to grow up in my opinion and understand that everyone - regardless of their sexuality - should be treated equally. I could care less about you being gay because I don't see that in you, I see an actual person just like everyone else. Every forum member, every DBD player, every person I see when I'm not behind this screen, and the people I talk to when I'm behind this screen are people just like everyone else. This should be more enforced in DBD in my opinion, it's just non-sense and it needs to stop.

Orion

@Nickenzie said:
If your assumption is wrong then I think he needs to grow up in my opinion and understand that everyone - regardless of their sexuality - should be treated equally. I could care less about you being gay because I don't see that in you, I see an actual person just like everyone else. Every forum member, every DBD player, every person I see when I'm not behind this screen, and the people I talk to when I'm behind this screen are people just like everyone else. This should be more enforced in DBD in my opinion, it's just non-sense and it needs to stop.

Test controversial

Just because my boyfriend is gay doesn't mean I am. I ought to report you for hate speech!

Note: I'm obviously kidding about the report, though I really am not gay. I'm bisexual.

NMCKE

Orion said:

@Nickenzie said:
If your assumption is wrong then I think he needs to grow up in my opinion and understand that everyone - regardless of their sexuality - should be treated equally. I could care less about you being gay because I don't see that in you, I see an actual person just like everyone else. Every forum member, every DBD player, every person I see when I'm not behind this screen, and the people I talk to when I'm behind this screen are people just like everyone else. This should be more enforced in DBD in my opinion, it's just non-sense and it needs to stop.

Test controversial

Just because my boyfriend is gay doesn't mean I am. I ought to report you for hate speech!

Note: I'm obviously kidding about the report, though I really am not gay. I'm bisexual.

Woops! However you get my point, it's complete non sense in my opinion and should be more enforced.

Note: Can I get in trouble for saying that? I don't wanna be BS'd again.

Orion

@Nickenzie said:
Woops! However you get my point, it's complete non sense in my opinion and should be more enforced.

Note: Can I get in trouble for saying that? I don't wanna be BS'd again.

Dude, it's fine. Bisexuals are a small percentage of LGBT, so obviously you're going to assume two guys dating are both gay. It's basic statistics.

NMCKE

Orion said:

@Nickenzie said:
Woops! However you get my point, it's complete non sense in my opinion and should be more enforced.

Note: Can I get in trouble for saying that? I don't wanna be BS'd again.

Dude, it's fine. Bisexuals are a small percentage of LGBT, so obviously you're going to assume two guys dating are both gay. It's basic statistics.

Not that, this quote here. vv

Nickenzie said:

Orion said:

@Nickenzie said:
^This. They are people as well and everyone should be treated equally.

Keep reading. The guy already implied that my assumption was wrong.

If your assumption is wrong then I think he needs to grow up in my opinion and understand that everyone - regardless of their sexuality - should be treated equally. I could care less about you being gay because I don't see that in you, I see an actual person just like everyone else. Every forum member, every DBD player, every person I see when I'm not behind this screen, and the people I talk to when I'm behind this screen are people just like everyone else. This should be more enforced in DBD in my opinion, it's just non-sense and it needs to stop.

Orion

@Nickenzie said:
Not that, this quote here. vv

You probably won't, but don't address mods directly in matters of moderation that they haven't even commented on. It just sounds like you're trying to provoke them.

Orion

@Theluckyboi Don't follow the rules, get reported. It's a simple principle. Yes, insulting people is bannable. Why do you get mad over that?

NMCKE

Orion said:

@Nickenzie said:
Not that, this quote here. vv

You probably won't, but don't address mods directly in matters of moderation that they haven't even commented on. It just sounds like you're trying to provoke them.

Gotcha, I edited it out. However back on topic, they should add a detection system like the overwatch developers did.

For example let's say someone said, "gay" in a comment. It will be automatically flagged and sent to a ACM for review in case it was a homophobic slur.

Orion

@Nickenzie said:
However back on topic, they should add a detection system like the overwatch developers did.

For example let's say someone said, "gay" in a comment. It will be automatically flagged and sent to a ACM for review in case it was a homophobic slur.

They don't have enough people for that.

Theluckyboi

@Orion said:
@Theluckyboi Don't follow the rules, get reported. It's a simple principle. Yes, insulting people is bannable. Why do you get mad over that?

i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

Orion

@Theluckyboi said:
i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.
And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in certain parts of the world, punishable by death.
Let me just reiterate: the act of existing while non-heterosexual is considered a capital offense in certain parts of the world.

NMCKE

Orion said:

@Nickenzie said:
However back on topic, they should add a detection system like the overwatch developers did.

For example let's say someone said, "gay" in a comment. It will be automatically flagged and sent to a ACM for review in case it was a homophobic slur.

They don't have enough people for that.

They could make it more specific: add some known homophobic phrases that the system would automatically detect. If someone went off on someone else because of their sexuality and they happen to say one of the known phrases. The system would automatically ban them for a set amount of time without an ACM having to do it.

Theluckyboi

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:
i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.
And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

Might_Oakk

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:
@Theluckyboi Don't follow the rules, get reported. It's a simple principle. Yes, insulting people is bannable. Why do you get mad over that?

i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

The funny thing is it's just some tiny streamer going full SJW to try gain popularity and one of the most disappointing games of the decade trying to finally gain a semi positive headline. Obviously a standard ban was appropriate but this way the snowflakes eat it up and for 24hrs people aren't trashing fallout 76. Manipulation is obvious.

Orion

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:
i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.
And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

And in post-game chat, people are always just trying to be dicks.

Theluckyboi

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:
i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.
And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

And in post-game chat, people are always just trying to be dicks.

Exactly, people are not trying to "harm" anybody, they are just salty because they lost.

Orion

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:
i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.
And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

And in post-game chat, people are always just trying to be dicks.

Exactly, people are not trying to "harm" anybody, they are just salty because they lost.

And since it's against the rules, they should be reported and punished accordingly, just like in every other setting.

NMCKE

Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:
i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.
And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

And in post-game chat, people are always just trying to be dicks.

Exactly, people are not trying to "harm" anybody, they are just salty because they lost.

Saying that people aren't trying to harm others when they said something that can harm others is very contradicting.

Theluckyboi

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:
i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.
And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

And in post-game chat, people are always just trying to be dicks.

Exactly, people are not trying to "harm" anybody, they are just salty because they lost.

And since it's against the rules, they should be reported and punished accordingly, just like in every other setting.

If i am honest with you i don´t understand how bans work in PC, i play in PS4 and it is almost impossible to get banned in the game, usually chats are manages after the game and you got to directly create a chat with the player you want to send a message to.

If i am reading your post correctly people get banned in PC chats for insulting others, am i wrong?

zacmangaming

I don't even bother reporting Survivors like that since I know nothing will be done. For a dev team that claims to have 200+ people It's astounding that they couldn't focus on getting a half decent report feature

Orion

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:
i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.
And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

And in post-game chat, people are always just trying to be dicks.

Exactly, people are not trying to "harm" anybody, they are just salty because they lost.

And since it's against the rules, they should be reported and punished accordingly, just like in every other setting.

If i am honest with you i don´t understand how bans work in PC, i play in PS4 and it is almost impossible to get banned in the game, usually chats are manages after the game and you got to directly create a chat with the player you want to send a message to.

If i am reading your post correctly people get banned in PC chats for insulting others, am i wrong?

People get banned by BHVR for breaking the rules. Hate speech is a violation of the rules, so people get banned for it.
On console, the ban system isn't functional yet, but once it is, it'll be the same.

Theluckyboi

@Nickenzie said:
Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.

And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

And in post-game chat, people are always just trying to be dicks.

Exactly, people are not trying to "harm" anybody, they are just salty because they lost.

Saying that people aren't trying to harm others when they said something that can harm others is very contradicting.

Saying something harmful like what? calling someone gay or stupid?

Orion

@zacmangaming said:
I don't even bother reporting Survivors like that since I know nothing will be done. For a dev team that claims to have 200+ people It's astounding that they couldn't focus on getting a half decent report feature

It's because you don't bother reporting that nothing is done. Peanits has shown time and time again that reports are looked at and that bans do happen. It's people like you who make the system worse than it should be.

NMCKE

zacmangaming said:

I don't even bother reporting Survivors like that since I know nothing will be done. For a dev team that claims to have 200+ people It's astounding that they couldn't focus on getting a half decent report feature

It is 200 vs what, millions of players? It's actually a lot if you come to think about it.

Orion

@Theluckyboi said:
Saying something harmful like what? calling someone gay or stupid?

Yes, that would be a couple examples.
If the goal isn't to insult or harm, then why say or do things that are insulting and harmful? If I kick you in the balls and say "Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you", would you believe me?

MhhBurgers

The amount of SJWs is already way to high.

And a lifetime ban for something that was an obvious joke? Yeah totally not a PR stunt.

Dragonredking

@Dinaqma said:
Huge props to the devs of fallout

With the stat in wich they released the game, the preorder scam and them refusing to refund disapointed player...
They don't deserve ANY props whatsoever

Orion

@MhhBurgers said:
The amount of SJWs is already way to high.

And a lifetime ban for something that was an obvious joke? Yeah totally not a PR stunt.

The amount of people who oppose basic respect because they think it's "SJW" is too damn high. Congrats on falling for common manipulation tactics.

Crow

Are you guys serious? Do you really get offended because some kid that you don't know in real life called you gay? I don't know how you deal with real life then.

Orion

@Crow said:
Are you guys serious? Do you really get offended because some kid that you don't know in real life called you gay? I don't know how you deal with real life then.

Are you serious? Do you really get triggered because some kid that you don't know in real life is being punished for breaking the rules? I don't know how you deal with real life then.

MhhBurgers

@Orion said:

@MhhBurgers said:
The amount of SJWs is already way to high.

And a lifetime ban for something that was an obvious joke? Yeah totally not a PR stunt.

The amount of people who oppose basic respect because they think it's "SJW" is too damn high. Congrats on falling for common manipulation tactics.

It's a friggin role-playing video game and tbh I would count that as in character, but "homophobic slurs" seems to be a much harder subject than childrape in fallout 3 and shooting people on sight.

Stuff like this is why I regret coming to the west.

NMCKE

Theluckyboi said:

@Nickenzie said:
Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:

i dont get mad, i just find strange the fact that some people get so triggered because of some joke, being so sensitive is not good for anyone.

I'd argue that blatant disregard for the rules is worse for the game than people taking offense to hate speech.

And yes, it is hate speech. It's the same terminology used by people who will happily announce their wish to murder all homosexuals, among other minority groups. Maybe you just don't get it because you're not part of a group that is still illegal in parts of the world.

Dude, i am Mexican, i get """hate speech""" from americans all the time and i know when they are joking and when they are trying to "harm my feelings", it´s no big deal honestly, people like to make this kind of "dark humored" jokes all the time and until know they are getting attention for a completely stupid reason.

And in post-game chat, people are always just trying to be dicks.

Exactly, people are not trying to "harm" anybody, they are just salty because they lost.

Saying that people aren't trying to harm others when they said something that can harm others is very contradicting.

Saying something harmful like what? calling someone gay or stupid?

Any insult (regardless if it's a joke or not), is against the "F.Q.A and rules".

Theluckyboi

@Orion said:

@Theluckyboi said:
Saying something harmful like what? calling someone gay or stupid?

Yes, that would be a couple examples.
If the goal isn't to insult or harm, then why say or do things that are insulting and harmful? If I kick you in the balls and say "Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you", would you believe me?

But i dont understand, why would someone get harmed for being called gay or stupid? it´s not the same as getting kicked in the balls, you must live with it.