Otz vs Off The Record
What a twist!
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Yet another post of some streamer saying "truths" about the game
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You're free to refute any points you disagree with - It's a public forum and I'm definitely listening.
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This is no big deal and won't affect most killers cause you only run into teams like this 0.0001% of the time. Just don't tunnel!
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Hey - Just want to say that, compared to the last poster, I appreciate you taking the time to type out some words with context to the perk/video.
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A killer main streamer i might add.
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Oh my - It is getting late!
Almost...zzzzzzzzzzzz
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I would find it a lot more valuable if you did your own video and expressed your own opinion on it instead of posting a streamer's video as if it were relevant
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The only thing is busted tbh is being healed does not deactivate it. Because against teams and even well coordinated survs it will be unfair. I mean 3 hits AND Dead Hard cmon
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Being healed isn't a conspicuous action, they already said they aren't going to add it to the list of conspicuous actions.
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Just going to point out that he ended his stream today with his friend Doctor and demonstrating how nutty Overcharge is.
I'm sorry you have nothing to add/say on the topic. Hopefully, you'll learn some stuff as the PTB goes on.
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OP never said that the video 100% represents their opinion/that bc 'streamer said it' that it's automatically correct tho
I thought they posted the vid to discuss its contents/how it compares to what we've been talking about elsewhere
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As a Solo Q survivor I just pray for anything that allows me to play the game longer from camping/tunneling and shite team mates D8 lmao.
I'm scared they didnt even mention us at ALL (no surprise, BHVR hates Solo Q). But we need something, man... something. lol
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We don't exist
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Just someone being contrarian.
I try to ignore sleepytime posters, but sometimes it is fun to engage and see how they respond.
Here's a pretty interesting Doctor soft-buff, btw
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Endurance shouldn't be able to activate if a survivor is currently affected by Deep Wounds. That way, survivors won't be able to combo Off the Record or Borrowed Time with Dead Hard, Mettle of Man, or Styptic Agent (essentially giving them 3 possible ways to avoid going down e.g BT/OtR+DH+Styptic).
If a survivor is in the Deep Wounds State, then the next hit they take should down them if they haven't mended, and all Endurance effects that could be gained should be nullified. If the dev's did that then this wouldn't be an issue.
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It's not going to hit live as is, but I'm interested to see how they do eventually address it.
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They said that about Boil Over...
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Great, another perk that would've been great for solo queue that's going to inevitably get nerfed into the ground. Yayyy
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"Just don't tunnel" Ok let me go chase someone else.
Oh wait that girl that got unhooked got healed. Ok she's coming to body block. Ok i'll just hit her and down her since she wants to play hero.
Oh what's that? Off the record? nice
Oh what's that? Mettle of Man? nice.
Oh what's that? Styptic agent? nice.
Oh what's that? Dead hard? nice.
Killer is literally unplayable now and there are more reasons to camp and tunnel now more than ever. Body block meta makes 90% of the killers in this game completely useless lmao.
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Funny you say that since otz usually comes from a mindset of balance. In today's stream, he also said Than and overcharge are too much also and will hurt new players a lot. He may be a killer main but he wants the game to be balanced for both sides.
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Alternatively, Endurance should always apply Deep Wound after being hit. It's weird that MoM doesn't, but BT, Soul Guard and Styptic Agent do.
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Sometimes yes, majority of the time he reminds me of Scott & Tru3talent with their very obvious killer sided opinions.
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All that needs to be done is make survivors intangible while under the endurance affect. But sadly, the technology isn't here yet.
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Meaning, what?
What has Otz said that's blatantly 'killer sided' for you to draw this conclusion?
He legit complains just as much about BS on the killer role as he does about survivor - it's just killer is more entertaining to his audience and likely himself
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We've seen really broken/obviously dumb stuff hit live before, unfortunately. The way the devs should look at this perk: does the absolute average player need a repeatable 80 second endurance? No, of course not. Does a repeatable 80 second endurance window absolutely break the game in high MMR? Does stacking endurance break the game in high MMR? Yes, of course. This can't go live.
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Really ? When I watch him he always gets 3-4k every game while simultaneously crying about the game, he made win streaks on every killer like "50 wins in a row" but oddly enough he can't escape 5 solo Q games in a row, I don't know weird vibes from these killer mains
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basically every dbd content creator cries abt the game
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Because MoM is very niche its requirements are too many, therefore it is not endurance. Its another effect altogether
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I pointed out his Overcharge commentary above, I think.
No idea why people always say X main / biased / whatever about fairly balanced players.
Some people just like to grasp at straws and be put on public display, I guess, when reality makes an appearance.
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If we're being honest most killers and survivors are probably less skilled and knowledgeable in comparison to these guys. Considering they have many thousands of hours on it and make some sort of living off of playing this game. Whereas the average player just plays it for the fun of it.
So I think most games will be okay. Maybe they can make OTR so that it stops working once a survivor is fully healed OR cannot body-block, similar to forced penance. Like if they do, fine, but then its entire duration is wasted. Or it simply makes them go through the killer/other survivors. That way they can't be tunneled but can't body-block either!
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Imo endurance shouldn't stack an since the whole point was to anti tunnel and you shouldn't get the effects of your fully healed. However this is a rare team to go against, even so it should not be like that.
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This isn't a true statement. He never finished the 50 win streak on every killer challenge because he couldn't do it, and he admits the only reason he got any 50 win streaks was due to poor matchmaking pre SBMM. He completed one after it's release, but it was during the time SBMM was turned off and he admits that as well.
His most recent streak challenge he failed to complete for several weeks, often losing it in the first few matches.
He doesn't often play survivor with the goal of escaping. He enjoys making fun plays and trying to help others survive more. He's done some escape streaks and he's preparing for another one now.
Try to know what you're talking about before you speak of others.
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Ironic how zarina and her perks were the worst in the game besides for the people.
Now if this update goes live. Zarina will be the No.1 best survivor in the game cause of Off the record. How ironic how she was the worst survivor now she’s the best. She’s literally sitting at the top of S tier right now
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I think Ash's set was and still is worse. He's also the loudest survivor maybe Bill is louder so he sucks for that reason too but Bill's perks with the exception of Left Behind are very strong so. Kinda ironic that someone like Ash is the worst or at the least one of. Anyway for the people and red herring have some use currently though with overcharge being more common and thus more failed skill checks red herring may also be indirectly buffed. None of Ash's perks are good. They are meme worthy at best. Mettle of Man might be okish now but I think there's better.
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I agree ashes perks are the worst but nobody played Zarina cause her perks weren’t that great and situational but the new OTR is literally a S tier perk she is the new best survivor
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I actually liked her perks and bought her for them. At least for the people and red herring. They let you do things that aren't normally on the table. Sure they weren't 'that' good but they allowed a unique playstyle. Still not 100% about OTR, need to look into the 'exacts' of how it works but it does look very strong.
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Name one opinion that Otz or Scott has had that has been completely killer sided with no thought at all about if its fair for survivors. Tru3 is fair game, there's a reason not many people like him, but Otz and Scott are definitely not like that.
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yeah sure thing dude, your statement is false the only reason he got any winstreak is actually hard camp and tunneling, always some drama in his chat when he's "forced" to do it
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I'm not exactly sure why killer believe that they should be getting free kills in end game by hard-camp hooks and tunneling survivors in the end game.
the patch notes clearly states that they're improving anti-camp and anti-tunnel measures, BT got buffed to improve anti-camp measures and Off the record is new meta anti-tunnel perk. the survivor changes are very effective as one would expect.
The killer changes on other hand are not significant enough. Otz was playing clown in PTB. The clown across 5 generators got 2 HOOKS. 2 hooks in 5 generators. so about the killer being more deadly in the chase. it doesn't seem like much changed as I expected.
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Realistically speaking, you don't need to be a streamer to tell how broken it is, hell you don't even need to be skilled.
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This perk is fine as is EXCEPT being able to be healed or heal yourself and you can still get an endurance hit, after taking a hit while healed. Now THATS busted.
Couldn't care less about peoples worries about stacking it with DH or MoM, those are people stacking those in KYF lobbies, but not realistic to think you're getting 6 health states LUL... c'mon now LOL.
But yeah, if you're getting tunneled, it should work like any other anti tunnel perk. Deactivates when you do conspicuous actions, and getting healed should count, don't know why it doesn't. OTR's other features can stay at the 80 seconds, not a big deal there.
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Probably because this thing is contradicting with a nerf they've done in exact same patch and nothing more.
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Sucks as a Zarina main cos everyone will assume I have OTR. Or that could be a good thing? Guess we'll see
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Doesn't Otz play killer and survivor 50/50?
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Okay yeah, I was under the impression it was once per trial not every time you are unhooked. As one of the comments said on the video this doesn't discourage tunneling or camping, it encourages it.
The only way you are ever going to put a stop to it or at least make it more difficult is change how hook states/hooks work.
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I could say he is slightly biased toward survivors even.
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Not really, he is slightly more on the killer side.
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Ok, so 60/40 killer/survivor? I definitely don't get the impression he's a "killer main".
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Lol at thinking Scott is killer sided. Dude's whole shtick is being the cool killer main that follows the survivor rulebook. That's why he used to endlessly complain about Spirit because you didn't know what she was doing but Iron Will is fun and fair because you don't know what the survivor is doing. He also said SWF doesn't give any advantages while publicly lambasting tru3
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dunno, seems pretty consistent with dev update.
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