Off The Record
I feel like Off The Record could end up playing into the killer's strength at times. If they are too scared to get rid of it which I don't know if that would happen a lot, then they are off gens. If they do gens then that means it's obviously just gone. I also think an easy way to counter it is, well you could just hit them. I mean there are ways you'll be able to play around this perk. 80 seconds won't actually come in handy too much in my opinion. It would just do basically the same thing as BT does. If they try and bodyblock you you'll end up trying to hit them probably like you do now or can try to go around them. I don't think this perk is going to be as strong as people say is what I'm saying. Maybe even bad for those survivors that don't like to greet rid of it that quick.
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So basically, if they don't nerf off the record, then we should wait those 5 seconds and hit a survivor to find out if he has off the record.
If he does, then I am going to tunnel the hell out of him, for using that perk.
I have done same with DS, if you force me to eat DS by going inside a locker, you are dead.
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The biggest problem with OTR is that you can get all 3 MoM Stacks in 1 chase
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It would just do basically the same thing as BT does.
But it is meant to be a self bt essentially with some stealth. It's strong on ptb because it stacks more than intended, but it won't be like that on live. Now, you just wait 5 sec and swing, or just hit then right away if you're high mobility. Then you tunnel through a bad DS which they might not even have.
It requires too much set up and that you eat also some DH along the way and someone injured in protection hit range. It's a game throwing stunt.
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No one forces you to tunnel. Your being ridiculous
Post edited by dspaceman20 on11 -
No sweatlord survivor runs MoM and no sweatlord killer is worried about it. I want to get banned from this forum.
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Not really.
Get unhooked, heal up and start taking hits. With OTR, you have 3 total Health States and should get MoM relatively quickly
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If someone unhooks in front of me wirh BT and the unhooked tries to bodyblock me when i try to go for the rescuer, i will tunnel them out aswell.
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They absolutely cannot force you to eat DS by going into a locker. If you get hit by DS, outside of end-game, you are tunnelling and you deserve to be hit with DS.
That said, OTR is poised to make things worse for both sides of the aisle. It can be used offensively, and can be circumvented if a killer tunnels hard enough.
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No, I just like to punish survivors for using those perks.
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Really?
I am Legion main. I just want to use frenzy to find other survivors, if they would let me hit them I would just run away, but they hide inside a locker with DS, what else am I supposed to do?
I just open the locker and then use the fact that they don't have DS anymore.
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Sounds as if you're just looking for excuses to ruin games.
You do you.
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You punish survivors using perks to try and keep themselves from getting kicked out early by kicking them out early?
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Then it doesn't make a difference if they have DS or not, they could still end your power by hiding in a locker so you have to end the Frenzy to pick them up.
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Yeah, pretty much.
Thing is that normally I wouldn't tunnel, so if I eat DS it means they just went hard on bodyblocking and I waited out their BT for it, or went inside a locker.
Otherwise I would just hit them for STBFL stacks and left for someone else.
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But they did have DS, so I killed them for it.
You are saying I 100% had to tunnel when I get DS, which is just not true.
There are two ways how I am going to get DS and both are based on survivor's actions. Either hiding inside locker in front of me, or bodyblocking me while I am trying to chase someone else.
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I cannot wait for OTR. So tired of every single match already being a hard tunnel-fest.
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Not to mention that the only downside of OTR, that you can't progress the game without losing OTR, has absolutely zero effect in endgame so it's a win-win situation - and because OTR doesn't deactivate in the endgame it's an even better version of DS (plus being a better Iron Will + a better BT).
It's an insanely powerful perk with no real downsides and a huge potential for abuse.
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But in both cases, you are actively choosing to eat the DS by focusing on a survivor that was unhooked less than 60 seconds ago, before they could do anything else. You are choosing to take that DS, instead of going for someone who cannot have DS.
Taking that DS is entirely -your- fault.
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The best thing to do seems to be just to hard tunnel out the first guy that you find. Hit him right away to get rid of his OTR, eat through his nerfed DS if they even run that anymore after the update, and then make it 3v1 ASAP. That seems much better than letting the guy come back and bodyblock you over and over again
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Umad? That's perfect for the survivor that is a strong looper, you fell right into their plans and now they will run you much longer than the less skilled survivors on the solo que team.
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not really, they want to use DS, so I let them. I am such a nice killer. Then killed them for it.
When I try to actively choose other survivor, they are trying to stop me, because they know I can't do anything about it, so I prove them wrong by killing them first.
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Well, they died, so looks like they were not as great as they thought...
You really think just because they know how to jump into a locker with perk, then they are good loopers? If they were that good, then they wouldn't be on hook in first place.
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I feel like you forgot your original argument, because now you're openly stating that you are intentionally triggering DS.
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Nah, they definetly know I like to play along, so when I see them trying to use their perk, I feel like I am forced to help them with it.
The part where I kill them as just a minor detail.
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xd everything you say looks like the tears of an 8 year old child who was offended when he was not allowed to hit with an ability and used game mechanics (ds) to outplay him. giving spins against m1 killers is also not a bad practice now, because now is not 2016 where you have 2000 pallets on the map and there are clearly dead zones, so you can relax, this can and should be done in the game. Are you saying a strong survivor won't get hooked at all? you mean when really strong survivors (I'm not talking about everyone) play in a tournament and they are hung on a hook, it turns out that they are weak because they got on the hook? xd your thoughts are more like the ravings of a madman than common sense
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I will tunnel all 4 survivors out, every game. And if I suspect one of them has Off the Record, I will switch targets and tunnel someone else out, until I've tunneled all four survivors out in 12 hooks.
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You're either that sweaty to win the game before it even started or you're playing against ######### survivors that don't know how endurance works. At endgame, if you have OTR with certain other perks from "######### you killer" category, you're literally immortal and you have a free escape unless the killer has STBFL and you'll just give him stacks so he can catch up faster. Also, if most perks get activated when hooked, killers will just slug. At least the game will last 5 minutes aye?
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Yes.
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