Clown hate?

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M4dBoOmr
M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598

why do Survivors hate Clown so much? I don't get it

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  • Gamall
    Gamall Member Posts: 487
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    Who said?

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 5,995
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    I think he is not very fun to play against.

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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    i ran into a ttv while doing my daily (not playing clown that often) and got flamed for "just" playing him, so I was wondering

  • Krazzik
    Krazzik Member Posts: 2,327
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    I mean pre-dropping is the best strategy against a bunch of killers. Heck some killers you can't even do -that-.

  • Phantom_
    Phantom_ Member Posts: 1,197
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    I mean I dislike the sound of his disgusting coughing, but he's fun to go against regardless.

    Maybe they fear clowns in IRL?

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167
    edited July 2022
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    No offense but one .ttv doesnt represent the whole comunity in the slightest, Clown gets very little flak in these forums, reddit, steam or the imageboards.

    Even if he riled the viewers it doesnt mean anything, .ttv viewers tend to parrot what Streamer™ said because its the way echo chambers work.

  • Zen_but_not_Zen
    Zen_but_not_Zen Member Posts: 230
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    Not going to lie, feels like 3/5 Clowns i face camp basement hook once they have one, and just keep spamming the slowdown bottle at the hook and stairs lol

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 4,936
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    I actually enjoy juking Nurses a lot. Once you doubled back 2 times in a match and let her zoom by you every blink of her turns into a mind game, I like that.

    Regarding Clown though, I think survivors just hate how oppressive he can be in chases, ie cutting chases super short and getting "undeserved" and "unfair" hits, but eh, thats just his power. He pays for his strong chase game with basically zero map pressure and mobility. His alternative can be strong if played right, but its useless to get around the map.

  • Phasmamain
    Phasmamain Member Posts: 11,531
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    In the case of clown it’s the fact that he actively hinders your movement. Look at any game with mechanics like these such as overwatch and you realise many hate it. People like killers who have a strong power that can still be played around if the survivor is playing well like huntress or demo. These killers also tend to ignore low skill strata like predropping and Holding W while killers like clown or artist actively encourage them

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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    It's just a different tactic, do most survivors just want every game to be exactly the same?

  • AndyKuky
    AndyKuky Member Posts: 84
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    I don't mind playing against him and he's one of my favorite killers to use, but he's also a very bad killer who gets wrecked by the gen rush meta. So, in my experience anyway, he's one of those killers where a lot of users camp and tunnel while using him and survivors don't like that.

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 6,776
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    Personally I have no problem with Clown. I only hate it when they run pinky finger.

  • Leachy_Jr
    Leachy_Jr Member Posts: 2,136
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    Don't worry we about to see a LOT more clown hate after the update since a mini version of Brutal and Save (2 of his best chase perks) are becoming base.

    I'm not too much of a clown fan but that's just because I don't like dropping pallets.

  • Mozic
    Mozic Member Posts: 601
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    I tend to take "your killer is boring to play against" as pretty generic salt. Every killer is someone's least favorite, and the survivors you play against aren't entitled to pick who you play or what you bring.

  • ThanksForDaily
    ThanksForDaily Member Posts: 1,287
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    Why not? One of the worst to play against.

    Annoying power and visual effect. Also you're forced to pre drop pallets.

    Now you get it.

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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  • squbax
    squbax Member Posts: 1,330
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    I mean I also don't get it, free escape bp are always welcome imo, but his power is honestly pretty boring.

  • versacefeng
    versacefeng Member Posts: 1,084
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    He's very unengaging and his only reliable counter is predropping pallets. His monotonous chases are also the reason I dislike Myers too.

  • Phasmamain
    Phasmamain Member Posts: 11,531
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    I doubt we’ll see much more hate towards him. It’s not like he’s played that often anyway and most clown’s are surprisingly bad at him (Seriously guys you know you have the yellow bottle right?)

  • Phasmamain
    Phasmamain Member Posts: 11,531
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    By different tactic you mean “Literally play in the most unfun way possible” then you are right. There is some fun in trying to use the antidote as survivor but sadly 90% of clown players don’t even use it

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,764
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    I actually don't hate playing against clown in the sense of woah this guy is overpowered but rather wow this experience is absolutely boring bottles are definitely an exciting power

  • ACleverName4Me
    ACleverName4Me Member Posts: 445
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    Maybe they don't like it when you can use the gas to cut down their profit of exhaustion perks. Dead hard distance is shortened, so is lithe, balanced landing, overcome and many others. It makes them slower at abusing loops and survivors don't like being outplayed because of a killers power.

    They also get laughed at everytime they get hit or downed which adds salt to the digital wound which is why I main him.

    Oh also people who hate clowns tend to actually be scared of them in real life so they want to leave asap.

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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    I think there is a lot of truth to find in your words 😉

  • NightmareKT
    NightmareKT Member Posts: 228
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    No no, he has a point, a lot of people I go up againt6all hate clown, they blurt out racial slurs, threatening to hunt me down. They are that angry when they go against my clown. No joke, I would like to know why as well

  • Ayamir
    Ayamir Member Posts: 291
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    Clown is the type of killer I enjoy playing as but going against a Clown is not really fun/interactive gameplay it's just like Artist you predrop pallets and hold W just keep moving forward or you get hit/downed.

    Different killers have fun counterplay Blight/Huntress comes to mind as it's not just hold W against them it's more of macro-faking theres alot of mindgame involved,knowing when to leave the loop if the Blight is trying to hug tech etc...

    but Clown is fine I mean he's not THAT boring Legion and Plague exists.

  • Marigoria
    Marigoria Member Posts: 6,090
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    A lot of people find him boring to go against I guess. I personally don't mind it.

  • Phasmamain
    Phasmamain Member Posts: 11,531
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    I can’t see any other reason to hate him other than the 2 I mentioned. He’s weak overall and is usually an easy escape but his chases are boring for the majority of the playerbase myself included. He was actively designed to shut down what most survivors find fun and struggles at countering the thing survivors find boring

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,241
    edited July 2022
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    It's because they would prefer to go against a facecamping Bubba and you ruined their chances by picking Clown.

    No, seriously I have no idea why anybody would hate on Clown. Clown's one of the weakest Killers in the game and unless you have a phobia about being chased by someone with emphysema there are Killers that are far worse to face.

  • Leachy_Jr
    Leachy_Jr Member Posts: 2,136
    edited July 2022
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    Well there's 3 mains things that got changed that make him a bit better.

    Killers got a 10% reduction to attack cooldowns (2 stacks of save) which makes getting distance against him harder, along with survivors speed boost post injure being 1.8s also making it harder to get distance. Remember that these distances are generous since you will be hindered against a clown when he hits you.

    Killers also got a 10% boost to kicking gens, pallets and walls which makes the predropping strat against clown weaker. Remember this can still be stacked with brutal strength for 30% increased speed.

    DS got reduced stun time to 3 seconds, clown can place a bottle on the survivor and when he gets off he only gets like what, 6ish meters of distance?

    Now stack all of the above with his best add ons such as flask of bleach (makes you slower in pink gas), gin bottle (+2 bottles), and ether (longer intoxication) and I honestly think clown wont be bottom tier trash anymore after the update. Maybe high low tier or bottom mid tier.

  • DoritoHead
    DoritoHead Member Posts: 3,546
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    I feel like I’m a pretty cool guy, idk why survivors hate going against me so much.

  • IWantCandys
    IWantCandys Member Posts: 161
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    Can only speak for myself but I don't like clown because of his laugh. Do you know that when some things (also in real life) simply trigger you on other people, and you then find this person unsympathetic?

    I can't explain why exactly, but Clown's laughter makes me aggressive. There's something about that laugh that makes me angry.

    Lol, sorry, guys I really can't explain it any better. :D

  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611
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    Because he is very boring to play against and the impaired vision from his bottles give me headaches and make me feel a little nauseous. But despite that, I don't really have any problems going against him. He's just one of those killers where I'm like "whatever", but also kind of hope that the match ends quickly, if that makes any sense at all.

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,903
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    The thing you gotta remember too is that any idiot with a camera and a mic can be a ttv.

    Any fool can have one no matter how deluded, talentless, childish, ridiculous, undeserving or mediocre they may be.

    Its a wonderful time we live in.

  • Norhc
    Norhc Member Posts: 575
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    Gives them headaches.

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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    maybe you once meet a person who made that sound 😂