Killer is actually playable now
The basekit changes are definitely helping M1 killers in chase. The dead hard nerf is rewarding killers for outplaying a survivor in a loop, no more "press E to outplay". People used to dread playing killer but these new changes will definitely attract more killer players. Gens are still being done quickly, but the chases are feeling more rewarding and fun now. What can i say, killer is actually feeling like killer now.
And survivor mains over reacting that the game has become killer sided, just know that you need killers to even have dbd, and before this patch, killer was at a miserable state and few people actually bothered playing it. Survivors just want a 4 on 1 stomping every game. As survivors you have to survive, it doesn't have to be a 4 man domination every game, and the killer shouldn't be your punching bag.
Hope they keep these changes, and not listen to survivor main cry babies who always like their games in easy mode.
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We need to nerf survivors more! Also, we need to nerf Pig.
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It definitely is. It's literally the biggest advantage in the game for survivors, and they're crying over these slight killer buffs lol.
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It was playable before as well.
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Killer was fine before the update
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I don't like these exaggerated claims. Killer was playable before this match. It was much more frustrating due to the strength of survivor meta perks, but it was still doable.
Survivor (solo survivor in particular) has it's own set of frustrations that haven't been addressed yet. But I wouldn't say solo survivor is unplayable either.
That's not to say every frustration is valid. Both survivors and killers can complain about things that don't need changes.
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If Survivor-Mains say, game is killersided NOW, they admit it wasnt fair for the killer for all those years before.
Let be honest: You saw a lot 3-4 hook-games for 5 gens and maybe 1 kill thanks to camping.
Now, it feels more fair. Of course, devs need to look how the rates are and make slight changes in 6.1.1, but they know that!
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Yeah and that's why people were lining up to play killer right? And kill rates were low according to devs? Dead hard was probably fine too, just bait it out.
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Solo q isnt fair lol
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I am seeing only 2 problems with these buffs:
- Thana is almost busted on Legion and Plague.
- These buffs also helping Nurse and Blight, both killers def needs add-on nerfs.
But except this, i think this was good step to balance game. I really enjoyed with Sadako today, she felt like good killer.
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I think what people are mistaking was this patch wasn't suppose to be a patch to balance the game. The patch intention was to both shake up the meta and make killers stronger. Of course there's going to be things that end up too strong, but those things will get nerfed.
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I enjoyed pig today, she actually felt like a playable killer against good survivors.
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I am not against buff Trapper, Ghosty and all weak killers. They deserves these buffs.
But Nurse and Blight did not needed but they also buffed with this update. So i am just talking about the issues i saw. I loved patch in general.
Maybe i should give chance her. I played her last time was last year and never touched her again. She was so weak at current meta. But even Sadako feels good right now. So Pig with traps should be better.
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I've had a few rough ones (playing meme Freddy, though), with some reallllllly well placed OTR bodyblocks.
Gotta be honest....unlike Dead Hard, I'm not even mad...at least I got to apply my on-hit effects - There was some really good usage of the perk.
There's also some real creative usage of the BT (extended with perk) speed boost along with OTR, too.
I've seen some very interesting plays.
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I never said that. Kindred should be Basekit for SoloQ and SoloQ should get some buffs.
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totally agreed , sadly certain killers can abuse the nerf to DS to tunnel even better. (and that isnt good)
but other than that yes i have no complains about the patch at all , only the DS change was a bit to extreme.
WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTT , okay.
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Besides dead hard it literally was
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Yup, all that is better than Dead Hard atleast.
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Lol sounds like you just need to learn how to play killer. They have been fine for years.
Tired of SWF? Just play through and hope for better in the next game. That's what survivors have had to do for all the incessant tunneling and camping.
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Just like survivor is fine now after the update
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Sounds like something an entitled survivor main would say.
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I mean, there will always be players who struggle.
I expect Threads in around a week where you will complain that the game is sooo hard as Killer.
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How many more threads do you want to create this day?
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Player engagement is more than just balance, you know? It's also about how fun something is to play. And killer, by virtue of its fundamental design, is not very fun to play. You're just always feeling like you're behind, unless you're grotesquely stomping the survivors, because you have no downtime. Survivors can take a breather when they're working on a gen or totem, or when they're healing up somewhere, while they have to play stealthy to get safe unhooks, and have to loop when the killer's on them.
Killer gameplay is flat and stressful. And the unfortunate impact this has on discussions about balance is that killers will feel short-changed even when the game is balanced. Prior to the release of CoH, for example, there were lots of complaints about the game being brutally survivor-sided, despite the average kill-rate at red rank being, IIRC, 64%, indicating that killers were at an advantage.
And keep in mind: Kill rates weren't low, they were 'lower than we'd like'. Which, keeping the above in mind, doesn't necessarily translate to an actual, sub-50% kill rate. Last details we had still showed an over 50% killrate, after all.
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What's it to you?
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Not my problem. I play both equally and never have any issues with killer. Sure, the occasional SWF that is toxic. But I can deal with one bad game. Because, you know....I can play the game?
Try the tutorial if you need help!
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Agreed.
Always has been.
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Sounds like you hate the fact that killers have finally been buffed a bit. Survivor main vibes, stop pretending you play both sides lol.
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BTW,
I predicted exactly this in my posts days previous.
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It's fine because you can bloodlust any loop now and not be penalized for it!
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With most killers.
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I'm still mad at the devs for throwing the proposed action icons for solo queue on the back burner. I don't understand what possible reason they had to not rush it out with this patch? While nothing will help with mentally challenged teammates, it would have made a world of difference with semi-competent teammates.
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Killers have had a 3k1e win rate for months now. The dev data has even proven it. If you can't even hit the aggregate....again, try the tutorial!
I've played for 6 years as both killer and survivor. Killers have had it easy for the past 2 years. Again, you would know...if you knew how to play killer.
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If killers had a 3 kill 1 escape win rate, the devs wouldn't even think of buffing them lol. "Killers have had it easy for years". Try again survivor main.
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Clearly you do not follow the devs and you do not look at the data. It is not my job to assuage your poor skills and educate your ineptness.
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At least I wouldnt have to run 2 of the perks i use now jus for solo and would be able to use some gen perks to combat this slowdown bs
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Keep acting oblivious.
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That doesn't give numbers. My my you need critical reasoning skills. College is a great option.
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You said killers were already getting 3ks, so if the devs want killers to kill more they want killers to 4k now? Just basic math lol, you're caught in your own words. Stop pretending to be a both sides player when you're clearly a survivor main, does it make you feel tough saying "i play killer too"?
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In the US, math standards indicate that you understand decimals by the 4th grade. A refresher, perhaps?
Is 2.8 to 3.2 an increase?
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Totally agree, not only the Dead Hard nerf, but the game also seems to be benefiting the killers skill more than just ''pressing E''. I've played a few games since the update using killers that I would never use to play with, like Piggy, Doctor, Freddy, and in general my performance was extremely satisfactory, even in matches against SWFs, I'm very happy with the update, DBD really needed it.
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DOH.
Among the first matches, I've tried a few things to test the changes.
I was expecting a survivor to DS me and strangely it didn't work. It just occurred to me the doors were opened >_>
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I mean DH honestly didn't need a nerf killer mains are just crybabies. DH is so easy to counter it's unbelievable, just get good lmao. You might call me an entitled survivor main but it's true, even I know how to counter DH and I'm a damn surv main. ππ
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It was always playable, just got some qol changes to make varied play a little more rewarding and thatβs a good thing.
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Don't forget to buff Nurse! :0
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