Killers Camping at 5 Gens
Why? I'm not saying as killer I haven't camped, but its a last resort when I'm down to one gen left. Why do it immediatly out of the gate? Its not happening all the time, but as I've played survivor more I've noticed its happening a lot more since the update. I just don't understand the amount of insecurity it takes to get to that method of playing I guess? Its a method thats in the game, but it honestly dosen't seem fun for either side to me.
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Possible answer(s) :
- Lack of self-confidence.
- Negative I.Q.
- Painful childhood.
- Etc.
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Some people can't enjoy the game without winning, so they resort to camping at 5gens and tunneling because it's 99% of the time an automatic 4k now.
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Camping at 5 gens is more efficient than at 1 gen, where it's a last resort.
At 5 gens, camping applies maximum pressure for minimal effort. Simple as. If you want a 4k, that's the nobrainer choice.
[BHVR seal of approval here]
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Without a ping system or voice chat it often is unfortunately. I think adding one or both of those to the game would help out a lot. I"m still in favor of the killer buffs, but I've certainly come around to seeing the soloQ side of things.
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What do you mean insecurity? Camping is just chilling while playing the game. Lets say you are camping with bubba at 5 gens, you just turn your brain off and chill with the person on hook. If you see a survivor coming you just wave them hello.
Its the most casual way you can play the game. No stress, no worrying about anything, just vibing.
People do it because its such an easy and stress free way to play the game.
Its nothing against you
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If they want a stress free game there's plenty of alternatives. I for one, really enjoy slime rancher.
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Unfortunately you dont get to dicatate to them how to play the game :C
Hey if somebody asks for a stress free game ill let them know though. In the meanwhile if people dont want to get hooked or sacrificed shall we recommend them slime rancher as well or do you have another game in mind?
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Where did I dictate anything?
People dont care about getting hooked or sacrificed, they care about having a fair game, which against a facecamper at 5 gens, is not. Nice try though.
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bubba camping is the strat people use when they want to play afk killer without actually afking, nothing more.
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For something they dont care about they sure make lots of complaint threads 🤔
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Did you forget the read the rest of that phrase? Is not that long, you can do it.
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Camping at 5 gens should not be a thing in this game. I think camping by any means should not be a thing. Tunneling on the other hand - is the only way for a low-tier killer to have at least a 25% chance of winning against sweaty "gen-rushing" swf.
The game designed that way, that you can't presure all 4 survivors (i mean good survivors) at the start, in this matches you have to get at least 1 guy out, to have an easier and better presure on them.
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Hard to do while im checking up on this survivor on the hook every few seconds. They move their hands up and down to say hi btw.
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So you have no interested of actually having a discussion about this, you just want to troll. I'll keep that in mind in the future.
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Was this an actual conversation from the start? I mean we kept exchanging jokes, i didnt get a serious conversation vibe from you at all?
But yes im not here to have an actual discussion with you, just to make that clear. Nor do i actually camp, basically ever.
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My suggestion about slime rancher wasn't a joke.
DBD is a stressful game. If you want a chill game, there's a lot of other ones. That's like me saying I want to play Resident Evil but I don't like zombies.
If you don't want to have discussions on the forums, feel free to not reply to me at all then.
You can camp for all I care, it was not the point.
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DBD isn't a stressful game as long as killers camp though.
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Oh it felt like a joke though. DBD is a stressful game, sure, basically all pvp games are to a point i think. But that doesnt mean you have to make things harder for yourself and play in a more stressful manner.
I'm not kidding as well when i say camping at 5 gens with bubba is like turning your brain off and just vibing. It is genuinely and without hyprerbole the most relaxed way you can play the game. And on top of that it usually produces pretty good results. That right there is a very good reason to do it. So why not do it?
Why should a bubba player not camp at 5 gens?
Btw you are genuinely antagonistic for no reason and having a conversation with you is not a fun experience, please fix that.
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You mean the same way pig was able to get afk and get kills and it led her to be nerfed? Why any other killer is above everyone else to be able to do that?
I dont see someone facecamping as playing the game, that's for me just being afk. Why load into a match to be afk? The same way I dont think people should load to a match to dc or kill themselves on first hook.
I wasn't antagonistic until you started being sarcastic to me, fix that.
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Why do Killers camp at 5 gens?
Why do you do Generators at 0 Hooks?
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BHVR: WE want to address camping an tunelling with this update
*nerfs survivor perks
*buffs a ######### ton of killer stuff
*nerfs gen speeds
BHVR: There you go killers you should feel way less pressure now and DH is gone so you don't need to do that anymore.
Killers: yeah cool I'm still gonna do it though. Can you nerf Sprint burst now ?
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There is a massive disparity between what killers consider a win and what BHVR consider a win - yet they're catering to the former for some reason.
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Instead of making BBQ stacks basekit they removed it entirely, there's zero incentive for a killer to not camp.
10 extra seconds on generators and 2 stacks of STBFL didn't suddenly make multiple chases viable.
They could try something more harsh to prevent camping but I don't know how many killers will tolerate it, although some survivors would say good riddance probably.
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Sorry i would rather not talk to toxic people like you. Nothing good ever comes out of it <3
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Why is camping at 5 gens bad? Whats the difference to 4 gens? In this forum, there was a mention of 3 gens dropping within 10s of each other, often during the first chase.
What arbitarily chose time limit handicap do you need for the killer to start doing his thing?
Alternatively, how outraged will you be when i tell you that survs camp gens at 0 hooks? They even do multiple at once *gasp*
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Actually you seems to be a little angry in any place I've seen you, though.
It's not the matter of if you see someone facecamping as playing the game, there is so many games and they will not always results in lot of interaction, even if one afk for most, it's still "playing the game" as long as one gets the results of match based on their action, opponent's action, and all the other variables.
The only difference between pig camping the box and killer facecamping the hook is the amount of interaction and chance of escape, and probably difficulty to fix it.
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2 stacks of STBL basekit made it easier to facecamp since it's easier to get grabs now. Plus the 5 second BT basekit that doesn't even give you time to get out of the basement stairs and in a lot of times reach a loop + speed boost from hit being reduced + DS nerfed.
It's just way easier now.
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Easier to call people toxic when you have no arguments left. Have a good one-
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I hate to be that guy, but as a killer main... why wouldn't we camp? So what if there are 5 gens? Maybe you're hooked at a really good three gen that I want to keep.
Before, everyone had a perk such as BBQ which meant we were encouraged to go hook everyone once. We had a motive to be more proactive, making the experience more engaging for everyone. This is one of the main reasons why everyone scoffed at the idea of a BBQ nerf before; it was a counterable perk that encouraged a healthy and engaging playstyle.
This motive is gone. There are other info perks and such, but nothing is going to fill the void of earning those stacks to get more BP, which helps on a meta-level. As such, slowdown perks such as Deadlock are prioritized, and people go back to trying to win. MMR exists, people like to climb the MMR ladder, and they'll play a bit dirty. It's a matter of the optimal play.
You can't expect people that want to win to play nice. You need to give them a reason.
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Without BBQ stacks the only incentive to not camp is kindness. Chases are stressful and difficult, camping is easy and relaxing.
Borrowed Time got buffed but no one uses it, the only nerf is the DS stun time. They can revert the DS nerf, who cares. It won't stop the camping. There needs to be harsher penalties or more incentives, remember BBQ was a bandaid fix.
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Ah but we have nothing against the players who turnt their brains off, eh ...
As long as they have a brain ... 🤣
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Head empty, no thoughts.
-Every one chilling at 5 gens probably
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Tbf survivors can also turn their brain off and keep pressing m1 with zero thought at that situation.
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Camping at 5 gens is a valid strategy against 4 solo survivors who doesnt know how to counter camping. Other than that camping would be 2k at the best for killer.
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Yes, I recently encountered a Bubba facecamp with my team; he only got away with 1K 😋
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The players are diesels, you have to give the engine time to warm up 🤣
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The number of gens doesn't matter, unless your so good that toying with survivors is clearly an option, killers pressure for a quick kill to prevent survivor sided snowballs.
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The only time camping is “efficient” is if the survivors are idiots and swarm the hook
if they do gens, then the killer is applying exactly zero pressure
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I was being camped at 5 gens the other day by a Bubba. I've been playing Stardew Valley in the evenings b/c it's fair to say the state of the game since the patch has been pretty clown world.
All I could think about was how the Bubba should just set up a little vegetable garden beside his favourite hook. They do that with convicts sometimes. They have them garden and stuff like that to give them a hobby, calm them down, make them feel productive etc.
Then I looked at Bubba and thought; "This man has never seen a vegetable in his life :/ ".
Hook dangling thoughts are sort of like the shower thoughts of DBD.
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🙄🙄
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Damn those killers wanting to win - argh!!!
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Way to ignore everything else I said, gj
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BHVR purposefully nerfed one of the strongest anti-camping killer perks, so you can thank the devs
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That made me chuckle. Happy Saturday
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I ran a build with bond, open-handed, and kindred and it helped the team avoid a disaster at the hook a few times.
Bring perks to counter the things you hate.
I hate sloppy so I almost always bring botany and leader so I heal faster and get healed faster.
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This is not 2016-2018.
Camping at 5 gens is very efficient. Mathematically so.
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The number of gens is irrelevant to what a killer decides to do. Not to mention the gen left number isn't accurate since a killer could hook a survivor and start camping while 3 gens are halfway done which is 3.5 gens left effectively.
There's really nothing wrong with camping or tunneling, but bhvr really needs to give more for survivors to play against it.
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You don't have to like the answer for it to be true. Both sides are not entitled to a favorable loss.
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I wonder what killers would say to a survivor perk that stunned the killer for 2 minutes, only being able to look around and swing with your weapon in the air?
Isn’t that technically what camping killers are doing to the survivor on the hook?
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Bbq is only an excuse. You can give some killers 100.000 bps and they won’t move from the hook. In fact probably they would sell their mothers to get the 4k
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Who asked for a Sprint Burst nerf? I love it when survivors are tiptoeing across the map taking twice as long to get from one gen to another on the off-chance that they see me. Stacks well with my four-perk regression builds.
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