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Ive escaped more solo q since the update. here are some results/ quitters are ruining the game.
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Ive been seeing so many survivors post their games since the patch to complain about the current state of "killers camping and tunneling" and frankly that isn't the problem. Point blank. I admit it is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT worse than ever. But that is not why people are losing. People are losing because so many players are crying and quitting every match. And frankly I'm not even seeing the same amount of camping and tunneling thats being claimed. I've been home sick for several days and unable to do much besides game, so ive cranked out a disgustingly large number of games in the last three days. After hearing all the complaints I have some seriously honest game discussion here. I have FAR more survivors killing themselves on their first hook as I've had killers tunneling.
My survivor teammates killing themselves first hook. My killer matches I have people killing themselves first hook. I've been across map chasing someone and just stopped mid chase to stare across the map at the hook as someone dies.
I admit some killers are being jerks but frankly I'm seeing so many more survivors throwing for no reason. Stop blaming the killers. Just stop. Stop blaming them when 99% of these matches are survivors just throwing. Even as killer ive gone in promising to play fairly then some walnut tries to kill themselves. They get saved and i find them. ######### am i supposed to do? You CHOSE to hand me this kill. I'm not goign to go chase another player three hooks in a row when you chose to put yourself on death hook. That is NOT tunneling, point blank, you CHOSE to play that way and got punished for it. Thats why a self unhook is a 4% chance. high risk high reward. stop doing it.
I would bet fifty bucks if everyone stopped suiciding on hook or dcing that the tunneling wouldn't be so bad. All my games have people giving me free hook states. Ok so if half the survivors waste their first hook should i just throw my match and chase people who hid all game when i finally find them? survivors wanting to throw temper tantrums atm is the problem. Point blank. I FULLY admit killers are abusing their buffs 100% I’m not denying that
But frankly I’ve been stuck at home and sick sick and haven't been able to move much. All I could do this week is game, nothing else. I've probably played close to 200+ matches this week recovering and 99% have been toxic survivors. Period. I’ve still escaped the same if not more now than i did before the patch
and frankly I'm escaping a ton. plenty. I’m in solo q and I’m escaping just fine. Idk if people are just immediately giving up every match or can't loop but i refuse to blame the killers at all. sure I’ve seen some ######### ones and sure some games I’ve felt pressured to tunnel. but nearly every match has people throwing first down.
I seriously hope the devs have some algorithm monitoring how many people are trying to self unhook or skipping their second hook skill checks because it is literally every single match. whether I’m survivor or killer and whether the killer is playing ######### or not it doesn't matter.
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I'm going to post a list with my most recent match results. i keep seeing so many survivors post their games and complaining about their losses. i want to post mine and I would like to also note what happened in those games, not just the escape/win/kills/loss but what actually HAPPENED because there is NO WAY people are getting camped and tunneled this much without causing it. I refuse to accept that at this point.
1.) I play killer to 4k. Survivors never hand killer a free kill but expect an escape or hatch. I’m sick of this ridiculous hypocrisy. I play for the 4k, I slug 3rd person and find the last one. Period. Unless someone totally JUICES me then I respect them because they deserved the win and lost because of a weaker team. I WAS giving escapes if someone killed themselves, but once you see how many of those I had, I’ve had to stop. It was causing me to DEPIP for being nice to people when they had quitters. I’m not going to let myself be punished for survivors quitting when I play killer.
2.) I only solo Q as survivor. My swf quit over this patch so I’m solo now. If I can escape this often I refuse to believe everyone else is dying so much. If you’re dying every game I fully believe you are just feeding. Point blank.
3.) This is frankly an attempt at a brutally honest discussion. I’m not calling every survivor main toxic or bashing that side. But I really do want to show how my games are going because either there’s a LOT of people complaining who wont admit they can’t or simply won’t adapt to the new meta, are intentionally throwing then angry they lost
4.) 4.) I count the dcs/quitters as kills for the math. But I’m going to do the math for how many wins I got legit and how many wins were from people either dcing/killing self on hook/ most importantly “trying to die on hook, getting saved, then dying and saving me the effort of a triple hook and calling me a tunneler when they CHOSE to give up a hook state for no reason.”
5.) I’m doing a counter for how many players (both sides, everyone keeps thinking im bashing survivor but im admitting its both sides and counting both) are just plain toxic.
My definitions
1.) Any game where killer camps/tunnels and it isn’t necessary because of survivors forcing them to do = toxic. Hitting on hook= toxic.
2.) Forcing killer to camp/tunnel- hook hovering, feeding, wasting hook attempt then team unhooking them and then expecting to not be chased on the free death hook, end game hook, killer has two hooks beside each other because you messed up a save in a bad place. None of this is the killers fault. Play better period. The killer is under no obligation to give you a second chance when you misplay.
3.) Any player intentionally giving up or feeding= toxic
4.) Any one bming, teabagging, flashlight clicking, either side holding the game hostage, or killer hitting on hook= toxic.
5.) Killer win = 3k with one escape or 4k.
6.) Bully squads- point blank doesn’t need explaining. Frankly if you bully squad you deserve to lose and be banned. Harassing the killer instead of doing gens is just a legitimately bad human being.
Killer matches
As legion- 4k. one gen finished. Killed two. Slugged two. Offer them to farm/escape because I have a legion challenge to do feral hits, and they had zero chance to win. Nea refuses to let me do challenge or farm and just runs around the map while elodie does the gens. Teabaggers died, I left nea alive until after elodie popped last gen so I can get my challenge by making them mend over and over. Elodie thanked me for the escape. First girl got tunneled for wasting her hook state trying to kill her self. First girl got tunneled for wasting her hook attempt
As bubba- 4k. kate and Cheryl teabagging and flash light clicking from the start for no reason. Good loopers, I had to hook the other two players multiple times before I caught these two. Showboating swf probably. I 100% remembering camping these two jerks. They wanted the heat and got it so that’s on them point blank.
As bubba- 4k. one gen done. I Saw Hatch offering. I hook Michaela near exit gate and go stand in main building. Wait for nea to let Michaela die (I expected her to let her teammate die because of course she would farm her teammate). She lets her die, I pop hatch, nea goes to door and no way out procs. Messages to call me toxic. One girl got tunneled for running no mither and staying in dead zones. Sorry not sorry but if you have no mither and are looping me where ZERO pallets are that’s YOUR fault. Play the game better. Last girl complained I wouldn’t chase her when she kept teabagging and running to shack. Why the hell would I let you intentionally loop me at shack? Stop expecting the killer to play badly. Stop it. One player did get tunneled for being terrible at the game and giving me no option. One player also technically killed her teammate to be selfish. If bubba leaves the hook and doesn’t camp, and you still let someone die, you are throwing. Seriously.
As bubba- 4k. hooked bill almost immediately. ALL THREE survivors come and swarm and run around the hook and tea bag me. They just trade hooks. No one leaves. Bill hides behind the hook, leon hides behind rock next to it. Claud stands teabagging. They get one gen done all game when they finally decide to disperse and everyone is on death hook. The moment they leave the hook finally, I also leave the hook and let them save the guy on it. Not sure why they wanted to just play trade the hook. Once the first person eventually died I just started cycling them around the map. At this point they wasted so many hook states though that they had zero chance, even though every pallet was left. They chose to play that way. They chose to be a bully squad trying to pull some cheeky play instead of doing gens or leading me away. Toxic survivor team threw the match
Bubba- 4k. as above happened a SECOND time. This time a cracked seal team six group trying to do flashlight/powerstuggle saves. Refused to do gens. Absolutely just running around hook, pallets near by, and the dock (on swamp) TRYING to bully me. So stupid. And they did get saves. Over and over by wiggling/recovering/flipflop/ over and over. They just kept trying to tilt me instead of going to do gens. Bill even stopping mid chase to blind me at windows. Not even at pallets. Tea bagging, bming. Not a single gen touched all match. Every time I tried to move to a new hook they just followed. I moved around FOUR hooks as bubba, trying to force them to go do something else so I could stop camping the hook and all three just followed me. Hook, down someone saving, take to new hook, repeat. I was infuriated at this match. Never even got to use my damn chainsaw once. Team was easily 10x my skill level and could have cranked out five gens with zero deaths. They wanted to bully and a harass me and were just barely shy of doing it. I don’t even know ######### this game counts as. But the single most toxic gaming experience I’ve ever had on any game. Note: they missed every single flashlight. And that toxic bill saved himself or got saved SIX times. SIX. A team this skilled could have escaped they just wanted to be jerks. Toxic team. I admit they were better than me and just flast out wanted to show boat even if it made them lose, so that’s on them.
Bubba- 4k actually a fun non toxic game for the most part but one person instated on bming and taunting. Tried to killthemself on first down. Camped them for being a jerk. toxic
Bubba- 2k. counting as 4k because I let last two go because tap did a KOBE. If you’re not toxic the kobe gets to escape. I Let his teammate go to just because I felt like it.
Legion- 4k. fair fun game and have been chatting with the last survivor for a few days now. Plan to swf soon actually thankfully cuz my swf quit over this patch.
Blight- 4k. all four players teabag and click constantly. While chasing Dwight who had one hook, the Michaela who was on death hook runs to body block me with off the record, (I didn’t realize she was even near me until she body blocked) then died because she wasted it for no reason. I ask feng why she was tea bagging me all game. She said “you didn’t allow me to do generators”. Apparently, as we spoke, its my job to allow her to do generators. Straight up she said the killer should ALLOW her to do generators. Sad because she looped amazingly well and was good. She clearly has a ton of hours on the game. Just a toxic gamer. Dwight also tea bagged all game. Every complains killers are toxic and this is why. I could have hooked them both at one gen popped. But they wanted to BM all game. So instead of hooking I forced them to keep picking up and trade the final hook I needed on feng (every player has 1-2 hooks before I killed anyone, I specifically remember because of how I ended the match). This allowed them an extra gen to pop. But I wanted that last hook/save so I could mori all four of them. Yep I held them longer just to mori them for being so toxic to me for no reason. Seriously I spread hooks out so people are death hook or atleast one hook before my first kill, and they STILL were toxic for no reason. Michaela complained she got tunneled anyway, and SHE CHOSE to waste her off the record to body block for Dwight who at that point in the mid match was one hooked and fully healed. Did not camp or tunnel, had to ALLOW unhooks to get my four moris, whole team was toxic as hell. Literally had to GIVE them a gen and ALLOW unhooks and chase everyone equally because I wanted to do my four moris. Atleast no one quit or tried to kill themselves.
Bubba- 4k. all four players teabagging and clicking all match. Two swarmed hook and both went down at Laurie’s feet for it. I let one crawl away and just camped laurie because the other one chose to stay at the base of the hook and spin on the ground. ######### should I do here? Just walk away and throw? Other survivor chose to crawl away. This one didn’t. Could have forced me to leave but nope she played like a potato and gave me no choice but to stay there. Laurie dies on hook and I hook other person. I don’t camp this one, I cycle all three remaining around the map until they are dead, still tea bagging and clicking. After the match I ask why play that way and they tell me “its funny to annoy the killer”. Fair enough I guess. Team intentionally forced me to camp because it “annoyed me” somehow. Makes no sense. Bragged about being toxic to me.
Legion- 4k. survivors were not toxic but I hooked two people on hooks that spawned right next to each other so was not a fair game. Didn’t feel pressured to leave hook. Leaving would have been throwing. I mean this hook spawn was so bad I wish I had saved the match to send a clip to behavior because these survivors got absolutely cucked here. I did camp here and felt terrible for it, but didn’t want to throw my match just because rng. If this was pre patch and I wasn’t so tilted at toxic players I would have let them reset, but im done caring at this point.
Legion- 4k. every player spamming clicks and teabagging all game. Two kill selves on hook. Toxic team.
Bubba- 4k. 3 players spamming clicks and teabagging all game. I camped every single person for doing it not even going to lie. Act toxic get toxic. Three gens popped.
Dredge- ok. seal team six kicked my ass. No one was toxic but big oof I got big wrecked. Single worse loss I ever had on this game. Survivor and I gave GGS. He looped me for 2 gens before I realized I was wasting my time (that’s MY mistake, period, he wasn’t toxic I played bad). I 4ked his team earlier (I think he plays solo, im saying the team he happened to be on got 4ked) on another map so this was pretty legit fun for me even though I lost. Probably my MMR was boosted because all the quitters are handing me wins I don’t deserve, so it didn’t feel fair but I respected the skill. But on that note…..
Bubba-2k. the guy from that game above. I hooked someone next to a gen. this guy was working on the gen and wouldn’t leave. He was legit SO GOOD at looping he just kept looping the gen and hook. I could catch him. Three gens popped on me. Girl just died on the hook. I can’t believe he was that good but at the same time his teammate was dying and he wouldn’t leave. And would you believe that gen eventually popped? Cracked player but horrible teammate. What should I have done? Just leave so he could pop the gen and save her? Player forced me to camp. But in the single most impressive way ive ever seen. He wasn’t hacking but idk ######### this JRM wanabe was doing in my lobby. My ankles still hurt.
Legion- 4k all teabagging constantly. One killed self on hook. Toxic jerks
Freddy- 4k. 1 escape, 1 kill, 1 dc, 1 killed self on hook. Toxic players
Michael- 4k and 2 dc/kill self on the hook . toxic players
Michael- all four killed themselves on hook. I was doing double iri Michael. I love double iri. I either get a 4k or 4escape every match. High risk high reward. Sometimes iThe team Told me they wanted me to fail the challenge they thought I was doing; I wasn’t doing a challenge. They thought I was doing the evil incarnate challenge (I wasn’t, though I did coincidently get it the next game and nearly died laughing at the irony. I didn’t even KNOW THAT WAS A TROPHY LMAO.) Just people being #########. Said “we’d rather just lose than let you get your trophy so we went in lockers then died on hook”. Wasn’t doing a trophy – again I didn’t even know about this trophy until they told me- but go off I guess. They all jumped in lockers to stop the mori, then killed themselves on hook instead of saving each other and doing gens. Worst part is they popped two or three gens while I was taking my THREE HUNDRED PERCENT STALK. They could have gotten out. They knew the counter to the build, I didn’t get a single mori if memory serves. MAYBE one I think? Extremely toxic survivors who openly admitted to wanting to ruin the killers match *note. I understand going in a locker to counter this build. That’s fine. That’s not my point and I don’t want anyone pointing that out. Re read what I said here if you didn’t understand the problem.
Bubba- 4k. all four teabag and flashlight click me. bill follows me all game clicking trying to bait me into chasing him. Never touched a gen, always stayed in my area of vision doing toxic ######### to bait me and I ignored him. I flat out ignored him because he wasn’t doing a gen and I knew what he was trying to do. Two dead, one slugged, I start chasing bill. He was honestly better at the game. And I knew he would be, these kinds of players always are cracked. He looped me for nearly all of the slugged players bleed out bar, I swear to god I chased him so long its insane. still clicking and teabagging in chase. Finally get him down. I mean EVENTUALLY even the best player loses to killer instinct and runs out of pallets. Got very tilted and made him bleed out. It wasn’t kind of me but he deserved it. his three teammates popped 3 gens. They could have escaped if he didn’t do that. Hell at one point he followed me as I hooked claud and just clicked over and over. I left the hook, still refusing to acknowledge him, AND INSTEAD OF UNHOOKING HER HE STILL FOLLOWS ME AROUND. Toxic players, one beyond toxic
Nemesis- 3k. 2 players teabagging at every pallet after moving to the side and making the whip miss. Did come here motion for some reason. Toxic survivors.
Dredge- 0k. this one is on me. Feng looped me hard, two gens pop at the same time during the loop. Feng starts clicking and teabagging . I dc because im sick of it. Don’t care about the loss just really sick of the taunting. I might have still won I might not but I was so tilted at this point. I toxically dced. Not leaving this one out, I am also accountable for this behavior. But the teabagging when you are clearly out playing someone makes you a scumbag. Do you think professional athletes dunk on middles schoolers and then talk trash? Yes feng you were better than me. But if you wanted to ruin my game, I just ruined yours. I regret being childish but at some point its just beyond infuriating.
Trapper- 2k. one teabagger. Otherwise fine game. One toxic player
Doctor- 4k but sweaty. Not a strong killer even in this patch. 4 gens done rip. No toxicity oddly enough for the most part aside from one teabagger who dced second down. toxic
Doctor- 4k and I let one go to hatch. one dc, one killed self on hook. Offered to let last two farm. One girl said no and said to hook and kill her. Leon killed himself in basement while I was chasing Michaela across the map. Let Michaela do gens and get hatch. Toxic players
Bubba- 4k. sweaty AF game against some seal team six wanabes who couldn’t back it up. Really wanted to goad me and got them all crushed. Played much better than me just died cuz of their cocky showboating. Kept greeding pallets or clicking in my face then running into objects, I guess they didn’t spin the camera fast enough after the clicks, but it kept happening. Toxic survivors
Doctor- 0k. four escape. Team was good, three people death hook before escape, kicked my ass solidly. Wasn’t seal team six, about my own skill level and I just made mistakes and they took advantage.
Bubba- 4k but let last two go. steve and some girl character follow me most the match clicking, I chase them and they go to god pallets so I turn back and hook their team. This keeps happening and they don’t touch gens. I hook the girl the second time, steve runs up to me during the actual hook animation to blind me. Goes for the save and I just chainsaw since im still in hook position and down him and the girl he unhooks again WHILE BLINDED because he couldn’t be bothered to do a safe save. All that showboating. That means I hit this girl through her base kit borrowed time, blinded, and the steve. All that showboating and they couldn’t even back it up. Literally our mans blinded me from like six inches away and went for the save >_>. I slugged last two then let them do gens and went to make food. The other two agreed the first two were being rude AF and asked if I wanted to hook felix (only player not on death hook at this point) and farm pallets, but I was bored and told them to do gens and escape while I made dinner. Steve teabagged and clicked all game. Very toxic duo
Dredge- 4k. ash dcs on his first hook after another player killed themselves on hook. Let last two go. Toxic players
Dredge- 4k. one player dcs the moment they see im dredge. Second dcs first down. Let last two go toxic players.
Dredge-4k. all four players dc or killed themselves on hook before first gen. toxic players
Freddy- 4k. wanted to try the new freddy build otz uploaded. Easy 4k. one single tea bagging jerk who tried to unhook. toxic
Freddy- 0k. same otz build. I got demolished. Three gens on first chase. Teabaging mid chase. One girl doing a gen at the loop teabagging every time me and the person I was chasing came near her. First chase was maybe about 110 seconds. I knew I wasn’t gonna win so I just went to a corner and gave up. They open the gate so I turn around and see a bunch of broken totems so I go put pentimento on them for some points and because im bored. Team follows and breaks them and teabags and makes noise at gate. I get they are mad I gave up, but clearly I had lost and wasn’t dealing with anymore taunting. But they still found a way to taunt. Toxic team of sore winners, and toxic ME for giving up. I would have gotten more points with a 0k but I didn’t feel like dealing with the taunting.
Bubba- 4k. this one takes the cake. Whole team teabagging me and when I get to them using sprint burst of lithe to get away, then going back to the same spot to tea bag again. Insane. All four. Not doing gens. Just intentionally standing at four corners doing this #########. Hook Dwight eventually and leave. Hook someone else. Dwight gets unhooked. I go back to get the unhooker and Dwight runs into me intentionally with his off the record or bt (I forget which) so now idk where the other person is. Of course I chase this jerk again. Hook him again. Go and find claud. Hook claud. At this point one gen left. I have claud on a hill. this is NOT a three gen so im screwed. THIS IS WHERE IT GETS GOOD FOLKS. Hill hook is beside big boat- I can see the gen has no one on it. Another gen is at my feet on the hill. Elodie keeps teabagging that gen but wont finish it (probably about 80% done.) I can see small boat gen ten miles away in narnia from the hill. Merciless storm hits it. Feng is tea bagging me. Dwight is in between the two gens. Also tea bagging me. All three teabagging. So I say forget it. I was nice all game spreading hooks around as bubba I did nothing to deserve this disrespect. So I camp claud and expect them to three escape. These absolute units of toxic players, once merciless storm ends, wait for claud to die on hook. They never finish the 80% gen despite standing near it, or the small boat that had to be at 90% cuz of the merciless storm proc. Claud dies and I BEELINE to the small boat. Still doesn’t pop. I find feng couching behind small boat and chain saw her. Hook her. Still last gen doesn’t pop even though the 80% gen was miles away where I had claud. I camp this girl out cuz im sick of this team. Taunting me with these gens was stupid. Last gen pops as she dies as I expected. I don’t even look for the other two. I just run around the map waiting for them to leave. They make loud noise notifications until endgame timer ends and they leave, holding me hostage. Toxic team
Survivor matches
Zarina- I did four gens, three unhooks, two heals, and looped the legion for about two minutes before he quit me. Saved the Jonah off hook at the end. Refuses to let me heal him with for the people and gets us both killed by legion. I should have just left him to die on hook, he was flashlighting the killing and teabagging the killer. When he goes down I try getting him up. Legion chases me. Whiffs multiple times and loses me multiple times. Jonah has not recovered at all but crawled. Keep trying to give him for the people but keeps crawling until legion eventually hits me. Now I can’t do for the people, and since Jonah didn’t recover I can’t pick him up. After this match I decided from now on when last gen pops im going straight to the gate, I do not care anymore. Chatted with killer, was a very friendly legion. One killed self on hook. Toxic Jonah and toxic death on hook player *I could have escaped and chose not to, so I count this as a win*
Ash-. Escaped .One dc. Toxic player.
Ash- ok game. Four escape. escaped
Ash- against freddy. No one was toxic. Very fun. Escaped
Ash- legion 4k. was not using a strong build, wasn’t good. Team teabagged him and was so rude. One girl tried to kill herself and got unhooked and stood at the hook teabagging after getting saved. Legion saw me running for the unhook on her second hook when she also just teabagged. Legion actually downed her and let me run away because clearly she nearly got me killed by being toxic. Let me reinterate THE KILLER SAW ME TRYING TO SAVE A QUITTER AND LET ME RUN BACK INTO THE MAP. i wasn’t even mad when he did eventually get me; was a baby legion. Not good at all. No thanatophobia either. Think just some new players all around. Legion was blind as a bat.
Ash- I brought small game to see if people are wasting time on totems. I did chases, heals, unhooks, never have a moment to even touch a gen. because someone or several someone’s did FIVE totems. Zero gens done. Second to last dead, caught on a gen finally. Probably should have just pumped out gens and let people die, idk what the answer was here. Helping the team got me killed but letting them die would have meant doing 5 gens solo which would have also meant dying anyway as people died around me and left me by myself so idk. Not to mention two people trying to die on hook. Toxic team all hiding to solo escape instead of doing gens.
Zarina- pinhead got a 3k. whooped my ass fairly. nea solo escaped. Amazing team. Nea was cracked. Pinhead was amazing. I looped and escaped a few times, and he predicted me and smacked my ass a few times.
Ash- 3 escape against a Michael. Michael downed Dwight and left him down for all five gens. Kept letting people pick him up and down him again. Carry him till he wiggled free etc. just stretche the bleed timer out. Well, for four gens. Then Dwight and I popped the fifth one, Michael came up and popped tier three, went for Dwight instead of me then wouldn’t chase me. Or the jill who was helping. Dwight was clearly a new player and could not have done anything to upset Michael. Just wanted to be a toxic killer I suppose. Most toxic killed ive ever encountered. I don’t know how you can slug a player for five gens but he found a way to do it. escaped
Ash- escaped against nemesis. Brain fried at this point. 3 escaped idk how the others behaved because I was too mentally exhausted from this project to pay attention anymore. But three out with hooks all spread so the killer didn’t camp or tunnel, idk how my teammates played. Escaped *edit: rewatched the video to remember. Two players taunting the killer and one tried to self unhook. Toxic players again.
Ash- died against another nemesis immediately after. One player killed themselves on hook toxic survivor yet again
Zarina- ace body blocked me. I was doing a gen while INJURED and I ran self care, and didn’t use self care. I did a gen instead and planned to heal later in the match when some progress was made. wraith found us and ace body blocked me in my loop. The wraith actually saw and left me. Literally didn’t camp or tunnel me and said screw that ace. Wraith hooked a Michaela and ace literally unhooked the split second the animation ended. Total jerk. I got so tilted I just worked with the killer to kill the jerk. Cheryl luckily got hatch. Ace tried to kill me and successfully killed the Michaela. Toxic ace
Zarina- an actual fair game against a fair demo. 4k with 3gens done. Really thought we would win because all four players were juicing this demo. End game me and other girl both got up. Saved eacher other TWICE with our second chance perks lmao still died though.
Ash- im doing bathroom gen on gideons. Girl is hooked opposite side of map. Guy is doing gen beside her hook. Lets her die. I assumed since he was beside her he had it but nope. He and I pop our gens (last two) and I decide he can deal with his own problems after doing that to the feng. I run to door and he gets hooked. I open gate and dredge literally hits me as the door opens and I leave mr. man to die on his hook even though I had deliverance and could have tried a cheeky play. Hell I could have went to save him before the door but he showed his colors. Stupid leon. Toxic leon. I escaped though, by the skin of my teeth
Zarina- cracked team against a cracked blight. 3 escape great game. Escaped
Zarina- I run to save bill and he tries unhooking himself and wastes his hooks. I get him and killer comes back. I double body block a doorway for him since hes already on his stupid death hook now. killer hooks me instead of chasing him. He then gets found and killed. Did the killer tunnel him? No she downed and hooked me. He CHOSE to waste his first hook. We were doing amazing. Three hooks at three gens done. He chose to give up a winnable match like a jerk. Probably blaming the killer for “tunneling”. What should she have done? He gave her a free kill. Death hook and injured when she needed pressure like a total potato. End of game feng and I are both death hook with two gens left. Toxic bill and toxic spirit hitting me on hook, probably for trying to save bill.
ash-killer let me open the gate. He had a 3k and let me go. A David named “straight white pride”(guess he is mad about davids lore update and mained him prior) dced on his second down. We had one gen left and three players left. No need to give up yet AT ALL. I looped the killer and lost him several times during the match AND several times while while being the last survivor. Toxic David . I escaped
Ash- two gens done, zero hooks. Kate is absolutely JUICING nemesis. He finally leaves her to chase a feng who goes down IMMEDIATELY. I leave my gen to save her. Hook in a total dead zone. I get there and she already wasted her hook attempts and missed a skill check. I am so sick of it at this point I just teabag her and let her die. I know the extra hook she had left could have helped but just, I don’t care at this point. I’m amazed it took me this many games to stop caring. Nemesis hard tunnels the kate out, gets his 4k. toxic feng AND toxic nemesis
Ash: two escape. One killed self. One tried to killself, and clicked killer teabagging whole game. toxic team
Ash: solo escape at hatch because other three harassed killer all game. good loopers just mocking him, took them forever to go down. I was only one on gens, did three of them before team wasted all their hooks showboating then got killed one by one. Headon/power struggle bullies looping him around like in a streamer video. Suddenly stopped harassing once all were on death hook >_> . Toxic team
Ash- door escape solo. Two players tried to die on hook. One dced.toxic teamteabagging and bming all game.
Ash- four escape, team taunting killer toxic team
Zarina- four escape, actually a good game for the team. Killer toxic AF.killer tried tunneling and couldn’t. then tried camping and couldn’t got maybe two hooks I think all game. wraith. toxic killer
So ill let someone else check my math here. Everyone is going to tell me this is a bullshit list anyway but idc. All the killer bashing needs to stop because I haven’t had more than a VERY slim percentage of matches where the survivors even tried. Point blank. Blame the killers all you want but I am seeing more FEEDING, THROWING, and most of all QUITTING than EVER before. I fully bet more than half of the so called “camping and tunneling” is from people feeding or wasting their hook states.
So math time. (check behind me if you want, I may have miss counted a single match here or there, but the numbers are so overwhelming its not going to matter anyway, but I know atleast one person on the internet is going to call out me being wrong by 2% or something. So yeah feel free to check behind me.)
Killer: 27/38 games won. 71.05% win rate
Killer: 20/38 games won because of survivors THROWING or QUITTING. 52.63% winning because of quitters
Killer: 29/38 game with toxic survivors either throwing/quiting or teabagging/bming/clicking/farming teammtes. 76.32% of matches with survivors being toxic be either dcing/dying on hook/ bmming/ generally taunting
Killer: 6/38 I let people escape or even made a friend from the survivor/had a nice long chat atleast. 15.79%
Killer: 6/38 I gave toxic back to toxic players. They can complain all they want about camping but it only happened to the ones who decided to be rude, and then got mad I was rude back. The entitlement is astounding. 15.79% I’m toxic back to people. Plenty of toxic games I didn’t give it back but this much I admit I did.
Killer: 6/38 I let people go/kill them and befriend them. 15.79% coincidentally as well. I was either kind enough to let people go or even made friends/ talked to them for a long time after.
Survivor 16/23 escapes 69.57% eascape rate in soloq
Survivor: 16/23 a survivor quit/dced/teabagged/bmed the killer. Coincidentally 69.57% rate of teammates being jerks and either taunting the killer or flat out throwing the match.
Survivor: 3/23 toxic killer. Wraith, nemesis, Michael. 13.04% toxic killer rate
So let me know what you think folks. Ive seen a few voices here and there agreeing with me that this current update and meta isn’t that bad its just a lot of people who can’t accept it. I’m not insulting anyone but hold yourselves accountable. I do not believe everyone is losing THIS much. I don’t, I just don’t. I called myself out PLENTY in this project and was brutally honest with myself. But if more than HALF my killers games are being won because of survivors QUITTING or THROWING I seriously refuse to believe the patch is the problem, or killers “Tunneling” are the problems.
Last note. Both sides are behaving toxically right now. but I really want to make this point to the community. If a killer is being toxic and tunneling/camping, it sucks. It does. Its happened to me before (oddly not since I started this project, but even before it wasn’t that bad). But a killer playing toxically is just trying to win. Point blank, their goal is to win and if tunneling/camping is helping them, then its just a viable strategy. A rude and boring one, but its to win.
But when survivor players are toxic, and rude, it doesn’t help them win. Its JUST toxic for the sake of being toxic. Clicking, teabagging, is just to piss off the killer. You are choosing to boot up a device, start a game, load into a match, queue up, and then be an ######### even though it won’t help you win. At BEST its toxic for no reason. At WORSE it makes the killer sweat more, tunnel or camp you, or lately the DCERS are just ruining their games, their teammates games, and the killers games.
ON THAT NOTE: Before anyone points out my high win rate, please look at the math. The quitters have inflated my MMR so high every match is seal team six for the past several games. Im having to slowly improve/get my ass handed to me every game now. I do not deserve to have this many wins but they are being HANDED to me and now I am hard stuck outside of my skill rating. Its infuriating.
I literally joined this forums JUST because of all the BS over the patch, from both sides, every mmr level, many but not all of the streamers.
Lastly if you don’t have anything constructive to add or just want to be rude, feel free to not comment. No one is forcing you to engage, but I want some real discussion from people instead of just pointless complaint threads.
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These posts aren't going to stop them, only some actual changes are. The recent dev post talking about how they are just sitting around watching just made things worse.
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I don't know what I expected from this besides wanting to see the math for myself. didn't originally intend to post it because I don't usually join forums.
at the end of the day this is an M rated game. the majority of players are adults, with jobs or lives. Atleast half the players I know are between 21-35.
We have limited free time and it is very infuriating to load into a game we enjoy, during that limited free time to relax and play a game, and have people ruin it over and over. everyone can complain about camping/tunneling all they want. it has NOT been my experience. period. and the times it HAS happened or that i HAVE done it myself, has been due to people quitting/dcing/trying to self unhook/ being toxic in general. Period. point blank.
the devs know what they are doing. frankly i wouldn't be surprised if they were just waiting to see if the toxic players quit and the dc/self unhook rates drop before they actually look at what changes need to be made. people doing that are toxic now and were probably toxic before
Its like matthew cote jokingly said in his one interview. if you don't like it go play CIV.
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