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Two Months, Developers

There is a movement currently where players are deliberately either sacrificing themselves on hook, disconnecting or hacking in order to try to convince you, BHVR, into reverting the changes that were made back in 6.1.0.

This is problematic for multiple reasons, including the fact that it's ruining the games of normal players and streamers. Seeing people--who are, quite frankly, unskillful if they resort to this--do this to try to either manipulate statistics or try to completely force your hand into reverting this patch is abhorrent and shouldn't be tolerated.

That is why I made the title and put it in the main threads. This is an important message to the developers of the game, and I'm wishing this could be done as soon as possible.

Two months

  • Two months where Survivors are incapable of doing the following actions:
    • The ability to attempt self-unhooks unless Deliverance is currently active.
    • The ability for skill checks to spawn in the Sacrifice Phase.
    • The ability to disconnect from the game using the in-game Leave Match option.

This is a necessity in order to stop non-cheating players from attempting to ruin the match for everybody, and to catch people attempting to disconnect through other methods in order to get out of a match.

This would stop the attempted manipulation of statistics and stop the average complainer from trying to force you to make a rash decision (such as reverting the changes you've made), and would give you the ability to better monitor games under most circumstances.

Two months, too. Just disable these features for two months in an upcoming patch, maybe even longer. This game does not deserve what a vocal minority of people are attempting to do to it, so I'm urging this here.

Or at least asking you to please do something before this gets way out of hand.

Comments

  • rvzrvzrvz
    rvzrvzrvz Member Posts: 940

    wow good idea if you want 20 min queues, what they should do is revert some of these horrible changes like DS and self care, not ruining the game even more

  • GuyFawx
    GuyFawx Member Posts: 2,027

    Your suggestions while admirable will turn dbd back into a Lobby simulator I do agree something needs to get addressed tho

  • Akumakaji
    Akumakaji Member Posts: 5,487

    I have literally not read a single comment here from anyone asking that DS 3s should stay or was a good change. Even killer mains seem to be pretty univocal that turning the perk off in the end game was cool, but that the 3s nerf was a surprise for everyone and killers are not seeing the value in that themselves, unless a survivor goes down in front of a window.

    There might be a few peeps who love the 3s stun duration, but I would wagger that the vast majority of the somewhat level-headed peeps out there recognize that its a big pile of BS.

  • Mekochi
    Mekochi Member Posts: 942

    What type of tinfoil hat theory? I made a post explaining how it's such a minority of players, even if there was a group, it wouldn't do #########.

    Our minds recall bad experiences more so than good ones, and I highly doubt it's happening every match like people are claiming, and this is coming from someone who plays both solo and SWF, whenever I play solo, and have exclusively random teammates I rarely see people disconnecting/killing themselves on hook. Sure it happens once in awhile but not always.

    The ability to disconnect from the game using the in-game Leave Match option.

    Okay, sure, guarantee you there's going to be dozens of reports about hackers holding the game hostage, but sure, let's remove the only option to counter that :D

    Honestly, these conspiracy theories are mind boggling

  • HugTheHag
    HugTheHag Member Posts: 3,140
    edited July 2022

    I really don't think the survivors currently DCing are investing hours of their days to repeatedly die or DC, just to chuckle to themselves about how they're befuddling the devs. If some of them do, and actually think their action has any meaningful impact, they're being delusional.

    My bet is that these survivors are just fed up with the state of their games (which are affected not only by the base kit changes but also the rise in toxicity of gameplay these past two weeks) but are so used to playing they can't just suddenly quit the game to take a break for a while. It's a weaning period. (What makes me say this is that low mmr, people who aren't used to playing regularly, has much less people actively throwing or DCing if something goes wrong, despite being much more exposed to unbalanced games, at least in my experience)

    I do agree that not having skillchecks during the struggle phase would be incredibly pleasant, whether it be to prevent suicide and therfore buy more time for the other survivors, or to be able to tab out and do something else while being camped without dying faster and sabotaging the team.

    I'm not sure about deactivating self-unhooks. I've had a Bill kobe'ing and saving my skin yesterday (though I think he was trying to off himself since we were in basement). What I think is that if this function is deactivated, players should get compensation for any bloodweb elements they're getting that relies on luck, since these offerings would be rendered useless.

  • Bubble0seven
    Bubble0seven Member Posts: 115

    They cant stop people leaving the match all you gotta do is disconnect your internet for a minute or just ctrl+alt+del and end process....Game gone lol

    Wow yet again generalising all streamers hey not all streamers think this way, you need to quit with your own tin foil hat conspiracy theories too watch out all the streamers are out to get us lol

  • Johnny_XMan
    Johnny_XMan Member Posts: 6,432

    Oof what the hell did I just read....


  • Marigoria
    Marigoria Member Posts: 6,090

    I cant name specific streamers since it is against the rules, otherwise I would.

  • I_CAME
    I_CAME Member Posts: 1,331

    I can't believe people genuinely think there is some sort of coordinated movement at work. One dedicated to wasting time just to disconnect in order to advance some sort of agenda which will make them more powerful in a video game.

    ??????????????

    Like actually listen to how stupid this sounds. What's more likely is people just aren't having fun and don't have the patience to deal with bad games. There's also no real consequence for killing yourself on the hook or dcing. The survivor queue is now instant so you can just immediately get a new game if you aren't happy with the current one.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,715

    That conspiracy theory tho.

  • MrPeanutbutter
    MrPeanutbutter Member Posts: 1,586

    Ok, let’s go ahead and do what you want. Survivors who want out of the game will just go run right back to the killer to get downed and hooked again, or will otherwise purposely not try. No matter what the devs do, they can’t force people to try.

  • fulltonon
    fulltonon Member Posts: 5,762
  • Marigoria
    Marigoria Member Posts: 6,090

    I do look at that subreddit.

    But people, aka certain streamers (2 of them one of them even said so on these forums) saying people hacking is survivors trying to get revenge it's just pathetic and a really bad accusation.

  • Marigoria
    Marigoria Member Posts: 6,090

    DCs dont count as kills for the stats, the devs have already said so.

  • fulltonon
    fulltonon Member Posts: 5,762
  • spodamayn
    spodamayn Member Posts: 220

    They aren't doing it to manipulate statistics or convince the devs to revert the patch. If that was anyone's goal, there's a far easier way to get the devs to rebalance the game.. and that's to review bomb the game on steam. It's happened before and it was effective, but it's not happening this time so I don't think that's their goal. They just really dislike the update, nothing more to it.

  • ausanimal
    ausanimal Member Posts: 542

    If they are going to revert the changes or buff/nerf them then they need time to get the data and see how the new changes affect the game, people DC or killing themselves on first hook is just going to make it take longer to do any changes. It might suck for one side at the moment but over the 6 years it goes back and forth, take mori when they got nerfed it sucked for killer big time as all they saw was keys on every survivor.

    If survivors REALLY want changes done be it buffs/nerfs or they revert some changes then they nee to play the game and not just DC thats not giving any helpful info to the devs.

  • Gorgonia
    Gorgonia Member Posts: 1,607

    wow... what is this? Dead by Tyranny?

  • GrimoireWeiss
    GrimoireWeiss Member Posts: 1,452

    You forgot these:

    • Removing the F4 key in every DBD player's keyboard;
    • Putting a BHVR employee in each DBD player's house so they don't disconnect their platform.
  • TotemSeeker91
    TotemSeeker91 Member Posts: 2,358

    What do you mean "DC to not give points" the killer literally gets a quiter bonus

  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611

    If you want to sit in the lobby for 20-40 minutes, then sure go right ahead.

    You can't force players to stay in a game that they don't want to be in. They'll just go AFK or throw themselves at the killer if you deny them dying on hook. Also if players are constantly DCing and/or instantly giving up on hook, that shows that there's a problem/issue with the game.

  • Tiufal
    Tiufal Member Posts: 1,252

    Yeah let's punish those who already have frustrations due to some unhealthy changes. And sure put hackers on the same level as those frustrated players. Comments can't get worse than this.

  • Tizzle
    Tizzle Member Posts: 696

    I can almost guarantee if you compared disconnects or hook suicides between pre patch and post patch they would be almost identical.

    Want to know why?

    The players that do this simply STOP PLAYING for whatever reason they have before and after the patch.

    That's why Killer queue times have progressively gotten worse and worse over the last two weeks.

    Apparently for whatever reason these clueless buffoons have forgotten about evening queues for Survivor pre patch.

    Take off your tin foil hat if you are spouting this nonsense.

    The only thing it does is make you look like a complete fool.

  • Brimp
    Brimp Member Posts: 3,054
    edited August 2022

    Except this has literally happened in the past... whether that discord groups attempt came to fruition though I don't know fully.