Survivors as a cause for tunneling.
I have come to the belief that survivors themselves are the root of the tunneling problem. A strange theory, I know and not nearly as fun as some of the others bounding about but...this video...I feel it shows in stark clarity precisely where the blame lies.
I was speaking from a place of ignorance at the beginning when I spoke of the yellow skillscheck challenge. It was my first time and I couldn't resist my inner calling to scream about how it isn't my fault that I can't make it work. So, apologies for that in advance.
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... Really?
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Not much of a counter argument there, pal.
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I typically never tunnel, but some survivors just beg and beg for attention and want to be tunneled then get upset when you oblige.
Here we see a self-identifying bullysquad who are swarming the hook and have a Pikachu surprised face when they get hooked again.
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In case anyone is wondering the video opens with them standing over a Bunny Feng:tm: who's been mori'd with the caption "i hate cute" just to give you an idea of the high quality we're dealing with here. That's as far into the video I could be asked to go.
Pro tip: when you're making an argument on a text-based Forum, write out the argument.
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I actually decided to open the video and watched a bit more than that. No, it didn't get any better.
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Nah, video speaks volumes but I'll give you a clue. Ms. piggy stands by a hooker survivor, looking out to the possibility of approaching survivors. When one is spotted, she then swings at the air as though to say, come unhook her, so I can rehook her. Watch how (or don't) how many times she Is obliged.
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No, I don't think so.
Tunneling is, and always has been, a strategy. An annoying and looked down upon strategy, but a strategy nonetheless. And, just like every single strategy, is completely optional.
Tunneling has never been caused by Survivors. It is up to the killer to decide whether or not he will tunnel, keeping in mind the situations where tunneling is the only possible move in order to win.
The only situation where tunneling is caused by Survivors is when they make the mistake of refusing to leave a dangerous area, or things like trying to fix a generator you are actively defending.
Outside of those situations, no. Tunneling is 100% within the killer's control.
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Or, you could just explain it completely using words. I write these comments in-between doing things and I read quickly, I cannot be bothered to watch your video. Text based Forums for a reason.
Just say that someone farmed another survivor off hook several times, we can all make our obligatory "Ah! Good old Solo Queue, never changes he doesn't" comment and move on with our life as this thread is lose in a sea of other similar ones.
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I agree, however when survivors unhook right in front of the killer it guarantees they'll be tunneled. The best strategy is to unhook when they're gone (unfortunately MANY survivors can't fathom the idea)
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Agreed. This is also the case of a Survivor making a mistake, which can potentially cause tunneling.
Cannot blame the killer if this happens.
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It sounds like I should have included a tutorial on how to accept responsibility for one's own actions.
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Staying in a "dangerous area" could easily be defined as "killer came back to the hook and you were there". Running, in that case, is generally not a good idea.
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So is your rescuer.
A killer does not have to tunnel in that situation. They can choose to go against the person who rescued you. MYC, perhaps.
This is within the killer's control.
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Another "boo boo survivors"-thread from someone with a tinfoil hat?
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Meh. A lot of killers just go far away from the hook so survivors go for the save and then run/teleport back to the hook to try for easy downs. I had a Dredge match last night and this dude would hook people by lockers and instantly teleport back before survivors could even get an unhook.
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I could agree. Myself, that is how I play. Yet, many never will in that situation, so why do survivors insist on feeding them?
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So, one example of such behavior should be sufficient for survivors to take note and not feed them. 90% of the time, they don't seem to.
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Not much of a counterpoint.
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They don't.
No one intentionally WANTS to be tunneled.
People just make mistakes. It is natural.
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I was reading your thread, and your condescending attitude towards others really makes me want to delve further.
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You are so much better than everyone else.
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thanks it comes with the name
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tbh the I Hate Cute was my favorite part LMAO 😂
Otherwise this was me watching the rest:
Honestly I am not sure where the demonstration was that survivors are to blame for being the "root" of tunneling.
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Btw OP thanks for my new desktop wallpaper ☺️
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Exactly. The way I see it, if you are at a point where Decisive Strike would no longer be active, I'm not obliged to go out of my way to hook someone else before I am allowed to hook you again. I say that as both a Susie main on killer side and a Claire main survivor side.
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I understand from a logical POV what you're saying, but there's more factors at play than just doing gens and leaving the poor solo queue player to die as a punishment for a bad killer. I have the perks and the skill to save that person at the price I am the one now being camped. Also, there is no way for people in solo queue to communicate with each other attempt and counter it or lt least be aware of and not feed bad killers even more points and reinforcing the behavior.
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don't know how he did that when lockers are block if a survivor hooked near it.
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The video says otherwise. This behavior is epidemic.
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Really? The awareness that the pig was standing right there, did nothing to deter them from unhooking right in front of her without borrowed time. Not just once, the entire game until everyone was dead. I think everyone is so used to seeing it, that it barely raises an eyebrow.
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You are quite welcome.
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Yea you can't to the lockers right by the hook but you can to the next ones available that are close, don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with tunneling but it's quite comical hearing "the survivors made me do it" from alot of people, na if someone is planning on tunneling then that's what they'll do anyway and it's not like the survivors can hijack OPs kb&m and force him to tunnel he chose to do it but like i said it is what it is nothing wrong with that
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yea it all on the killer I play both side and if you unhook in my face I try go for the unhook er.
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Same, just good manners but not sure why. Definitely not a guiding principle of my fellow travelers. I feel better though. So there is that.
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