The Pig sure could use some better add-ons
The add-ons giving status effects to Survivors are decent, but we have others that are relatively worthless. Workshop Grease and Razor Wires increase Skill Check odds when interacting with Jigsaw boxes, and Interlocking Razor greatly increases the punishments for failing a check, but the skill checks are so easy that these aren't even the slightest useful.
Other add-ons really feel like they should be base kit. Namely, Combat Straps and Rule Set No.2. Amanda's Secret would be useful if it showed the auras of Survivors currently interacting with a Jigsaw Box rather than for a brief moment after the trap is removed.
Her Ulta-Rare's feel rather lacking compared to other Killers. Rule Set No.2 is alright but should be base kit. Amanda's letter has some serious drawbacks, the ability to see Survivors that are already really close to you doesn't really feel worth making your traps, one half of your power, worthless.
It just feels like The Pig could really use a good look into her add-ons. Removing some, improving others, adding some new ones. I think there are more useful add-ons you can give her, and more interesting Ulta-Rares. Add-ons giving traps the hindered status effect to Survivors, increasing the duration of Ambush. Like an add-on that gives The Pig a single unremoveable trap but extends the timer to 5 minutes. Or maybe longer. Or one that makes Ambush completely silent.
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I hope this is the right Moderator, I only know of @Peanits lol
I feel the same about Pig, they don't make her strong enough. I love using the Razors and everything that goes for skill checks but they just don't feel like they do enough. The only time I felt actually strong as Pig is when I had the Tampered Timer and the one that adds another Jigsaw box but that could have quickly gone wrong because the boxes aren't luck based for the key, they are predetermined. But maybe it's good that they are predetermined. Her perk Surveillance needs a buff as well because it's almost useless but maybe Pig could get the next rework after Freddy? I don't think there are that many killers left that actually need a buff.
Amanda's Letter could have the Unremovable Trap, just one trap and have the Aura read, it have the 5 minute timer, it could be the Obsession, you could never pick them up because you know they'll die or get the Hatch. That's what the Hatch is for, when you have a trap but no time to get to the exit or can't reach it. Or maybe it has a 2 minute timer but it only activates after the last Gen is done? I don't know, it sounds cool but I know it needs to be fair, but this addon would be her ultimate addon and goes perfectly with the description.
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It is also kinda sad almost all her add-ons are related to her RBTs and not her ambush/crouch...2
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@JanTheMan said:
It is also kinda sad almost all her add-ons are related to her RBTs and not her ambush/crouch...Her traps are easily gotten rid of so her Ambush is the thing used the most and yet it only has like 2 or 3 addons. A cool one for Ambush could be that Hindered effect, like the blade from her Ambush hits a nerve and slows down the Survivor for a little bit on a successful hit. I would say the new Deep Wounds instead of Hindered but it might be too soon or too close to Legion's power, I just think the Deep Wounds is a cool effect to play around with.
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I just wish they would make one of her add-ons increase speed in stealth.
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@brock said:
I just wish they would make one of her add-ons increase speed in stealth.She just needs a faster movement speed while crouched in general.
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I just think that her best addons (Combat straps and VideoTape) should be baseline,because currently it's not worth it to use anything else than that and maybe Tampered timer +RulesSets/Jigsaw's sketch.
I find her very strong if you force survivors to drops pallets/leave loops by using her ambush near theses spots.
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@Goldengeartwo said:
I find that I run out of needed add-ons much quicker with The Pig than other Killers. And I think that this is because she has far less useful add-ons compared to her counterparts.The add-ons giving status effects to Survivors are decent, but we have others that are relatively worthless. Workshop Grease and Razor Wires increase Skill Check odds when interacting with Jigsaw boxes, and Interlocking Razor greatly increases the punishments for failing a check, but the skill checks are so easy that these aren't even the slightest useful.
Other add-ons really feel like they should be base kit. Namely, Combat Straps and Rule Set No.2. Amanda's Secret would be useful if it showed the auras of Survivors currently interacting with a Jigsaw Box rather than for a brief moment after the trap is removed.
Her Ulta-Rare's feel rather lacking compared to other Killers. Rule Set No.2 is alright but should be base kit. Amanda's letter has some serious drawbacks, the ability to see Survivors that are already really close to you doesn't really feel worth making your traps, one half of your power, worthless.
It just feels like The Pig could really use a good look into her add-ons. Removing some, improving others, adding some new ones. I think there are more useful add-ons you can give her, and more interesting Ulta-Rares. Add-ons giving traps the hindered status effect to Survivors, increasing the duration of Ambush. Like an add-on that gives The Pig a single unremoveable trap but extends the timer to 5 minutes. Or maybe longer. Or one that makes Ambush completely silent.
Agree with everything in this post.
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So could Myers.
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Never played the pig but what i caught up from the forum/wiki/videos is that her addons are mostly just for the atrociusly bad RBT.
I think some of her addons should be merged or simply buffed hard.Either buff her ambush and remove those 3 common addons and buff the rest of the rbt addons
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Give her addons with multiple effects for both the ambush and the RBT, similiar to the doctors addons.0 -
Hell yeah0
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The way I see it, the ones impacting Skill Checks aren't worth it (even if you screw with the Skill Checks with Unnerving Presence), the ones that give penalties to Survivors wearing RBTs aren't worth it except Slow-Release Toxin, the common ones that affect the Ambush aren't worth it except for Combat Straps, Amanda's Secret isn't worth it, and Amanda's Letter isn't worth it. That's half of her add-ons (and I'm not even including Annotated Plan here, even though I'm likely in a strong minority when I say that I like to use it).
@Raptorrotas said:
Never played the pig but what i caught up from the forum/wiki/videos is that her addons are mostly just for the atrociusly bad RBT.
I think some of her addons should be merged or simply buffed hard.Either buff her ambush and remove those 3 common addons and buff the rest of the rbt addons
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Give her addons with multiple effects for both the ambush and the RBT, similiar to the doctors addons.I think you might onto something with the idea of giving some of her add-ons multiple effects similar to the Doctor, especially since Pig's power is technically two powers in one, and by dedicating add-ons to either one or the other, neither half really gets enough. I think if you tack on RBT buffs to Shattered Syringe and John's Medical File (not the Video Tape, since that's just the previous two taped together) and maybe tack some Ambush buffs onto the ones that grant penalties to the RBTs, they might be more worth using.
Then you have Combat Straps and Rules Set No. 2, which I think should just be part of Pig's natural skill set (which means those two should be re-worked as a result). Amanda's Letter and Secret definitely need buffs (ESPECIALLY Secret), and as for the ones playing around with Skill Checks...ehhhh, I dunno. I got nothin' for those. As far as Jigsaw's Annotated Plan, I'm PERSONALLY cool with it, but maybe having it only slightly raise the clock as opposed to moderately raising the clock could be a decent-but-not-overwhelming buff to it. I guess my question is whether six boxes (using both Annotated Plan and Sketch) and, say, 2:45 death timer is too much, as that's the ONLY reason I could see Annotated Plan having a 30 second addition to the timer (though to be honest, reading that aloud makes me feel like no, six boxes in 2:45 isn't unreasonable, especially when it uses a rare and a very rare add-on).
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This is really exciting, I hope Pig gets some buffs because I love going against and playing her. I have a hard time using addons that actually help her and her traps are not scary unless you're going against bad Survivors and care them away froma box or force the explosion. I love all these ideas, I guess Peanits never looked at this, I'd tag someone else but still don't know anyone lol
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Im really hoping they buff the pigs addons, its really frustrating when you have to run RBT add ons just for a survivor to go to the first box and get it off.
The ambush definetly needs some love with add ons, maybe something similar to the wraith and spirit where there is no audio cue making her ambush actually scary as you need to watch for her.1
