Logic

HuN7r3sS

I'm the first person to be seen and I run the killer around for around 2 and a half to 3 gens before I'm hooked. I get saved off the hook, killer quits current chase and returns to me, I again run him around, get downed and hooked; a gen finishing during me struggling. I get pulled off the hook and the killer returns after I get about 45% on a gen and I run him around again until last gen is popped and adrenaline triggers. I get downed before making it to exit and death hooked, go over to match results and discover that after all that I lost a pip. Whose logic is this!?

Blueberry

Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

GT_Legend2

You didn’t do much variety, you didn’t do a lot of gens, you didn’t escape, you didn’t do much altruism, you got good evader points, that’s it

HuN7r3sS

GT_Legend2 said:

You didn’t do much variety, you didn’t do a lot of gens, you didn’t escape, you didn’t do much altruism, you got good evader points, that’s it

That's what I'm getting at when I tried to do normal objectives, I'd be forced into chase again. As for altruism, I can't pull myself off hook

AlwaysInAGoodShape

@HuN7r3sS

The Emblem system is a custom system the developers made to try to evaluate how vital your role was in the escape of the team.

However, it's just that; custom. And it's full of flaws with it's evaluation.
1. It concludes that if you specialise in 1 thing, then it will not reward you for everything you've done as you've already exceeded the max emblems in that category.
2. It also believes that being hooked and rescued is worth more for the survivors then never being hooked in the first place.
3. etc. etc.

That is why you depipped. It's a custom and flunky system.

Though there are a lot of upsides to it as well;

If you don't escape, you can still have the feeling that you've won (through pipping).

DwightsLifeMatters

GT_Legend2 said:

You didn’t do much variety, you didn’t do a lot of gens, you didn’t escape, you didn’t do much altruism, you got good evader points, that’s it

Did u even read his post or r u so bad at understanding? 

Master

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

I still remember some game where I roleplayed as locker dwight and didnt do ANYTHING, yet I blackpiped because I escaped without being downed

Blueberry

@Master said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

I still remember some game where I roleplayed as locker dwight and didnt do ANYTHING, yet I blackpiped because I escaped without being downed

Exactly lol

Skorpanio

Firstly, where is that LOL button.

And secondly, have you seen that button called
?
It can be used to make a combo such as:



Try it out!
It's amazing.

The_Crusader

GT_Legend2 said:

You didn’t do much variety, you didn’t do a lot of gens, you didn’t escape, you didn’t do much altruism, you got good evader points, that’s it

This.

You got no gens, no unhools, no healing, no totems etc

This is why tunneling sucks and the survivor score system is broken.

MyNamePete

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Blueberry

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

Justicar

As others have already said, you're not going to pip if you're only getting points in one category. Regardless of how many gens you ran the killer around, if you don't get some points in at least one or two of the other categories, it doesn't matter in the current emblem system.

MyNamePete

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Blueberry

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Those are extremely small requirements, the vast majority of players are meeting that unless you got outplayed very hard or just face camped.

AshleyWB

The killer can actively tunnel one player which restricts the amount of points to play for. Not easy to pip if killer wants your ass.

MyNamePete

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Those are extremely small requirements, the vast majority of players are meeting that unless you got outplayed very hard or just face camped.

the second one is about as close as you can get, basically take everything you can that killers do to make the match less fun for survivors, and thats the reasoning ))))))))

RepliCant

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

I hate hearing this.

You know, I forcefully have to find the Killer and initiate a chase JUST so I can pip. It's frustrating and annoying, and even more annoying when you're either being chased all game, OR doing a M1/RB Simulator all game.

This whole "you have to try to depip" stuff is so inaccurate. If you curbstomp a bad killer, you will most likely safety pip. Sometimes even depip if nobody gets hooked.

Emblem system is broken period. Always thought the point system (Victory Cube) was better.

Blueberry

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Those are extremely small requirements, the vast majority of players are meeting that unless you got outplayed very hard or just face camped.

the second one is about as close as you can get, basically take everything you can that killers do to make the match less fun for survivors, and thats the reasoning ))))))))

Idk, i just have a hard time believing the main reason is the killers fault. I don't pip as survivor like 1 out of every MAYBE 12 games, if even that. I think there's outplay going on here.

MyNamePete

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Those are extremely small requirements, the vast majority of players are meeting that unless you got outplayed very hard or just face camped.

the second one is about as close as you can get, basically take everything you can that killers do to make the match less fun for survivors, and thats the reasoning ))))))))

Idk, i just have a hard time believing the main reason is the killers fault. I don't pip as survivor like 1 out of every MAYBE 12 games, if even that. I think there's outplay going on here.

i wouldn't consider my teammates not finding ruin after 10 minutes and 1 gen was done outplay

MyNamePete

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Those are extremely small requirements, the vast majority of players are meeting that unless you got outplayed very hard or just face camped.

the second one is about as close as you can get, basically take everything you can that killers do to make the match less fun for survivors, and thats the reasoning ))))))))

Idk, i just have a hard time believing the main reason is the killers fault. I don't pip as survivor like 1 out of every MAYBE 12 games, if even that. I think there's outplay going on here.

when i say the killers fault, i mean everything from their perks to addons to their playstyle.

but its also mostly because of ######### teammates that crouch across the whole map instead of helping you on the hook

Blueberry

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Those are extremely small requirements, the vast majority of players are meeting that unless you got outplayed very hard or just face camped.

the second one is about as close as you can get, basically take everything you can that killers do to make the match less fun for survivors, and thats the reasoning ))))))))

Idk, i just have a hard time believing the main reason is the killers fault. I don't pip as survivor like 1 out of every MAYBE 12 games, if even that. I think there's outplay going on here.

when i say the killers fault, i mean everything from their perks to addons to their playstyle.

but its also mostly because of ######### teammates that crouch across the whole map instead of helping you on the hook

I mean you're basically saying it is indeed not a killer issue. It's low rank bad survivor teammates and yalls inability to hit ruin skill checks that hindered you. Even bad teammates you can make sure you aren''t found first so at least you pip. These are player skill issues preventing your pipping.

Master

@Skorpanio said:
Firstly, where is that LOL button.

And secondly, have you seen that button called
?
It can be used to make a combo such as:



Try it out!
It's amazing.

The lol button for you, just bookmark the link

MyNamePete

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Those are extremely small requirements, the vast majority of players are meeting that unless you got outplayed very hard or just face camped.

the second one is about as close as you can get, basically take everything you can that killers do to make the match less fun for survivors, and thats the reasoning ))))))))

Idk, i just have a hard time believing the main reason is the killers fault. I don't pip as survivor like 1 out of every MAYBE 12 games, if even that. I think there's outplay going on here.

when i say the killers fault, i mean everything from their perks to addons to their playstyle.

but its also mostly because of ######### teammates that crouch across the whole map instead of helping you on the hook

I mean you're basically saying it is indeed not a killer issue. It's low rank bad survivor teammates and yalls inability to hit ruin skill checks that hindered you. Even bad teammates you can make sure you aren''t found first so at least you pip. These are player skill issues preventing your pipping.

i can hit skill checks trust me, more than half of the time its because im found first and i have no time to do anything

Blueberry

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:

@MyNamePete said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

not true you know how many games i get tunneled from the start or the killer if using some perks that make the game impossible with my stupid teammates just to lose a pip

Speaking generally here, not exceptions to the norm.

to get a safety pip you have to do around 1 gen, get chased for a round a minute, and unhook a survivor. Just saying, but its extremely hard to do that when i have no time for all these things

Those are extremely small requirements, the vast majority of players are meeting that unless you got outplayed very hard or just face camped.

the second one is about as close as you can get, basically take everything you can that killers do to make the match less fun for survivors, and thats the reasoning ))))))))

Idk, i just have a hard time believing the main reason is the killers fault. I don't pip as survivor like 1 out of every MAYBE 12 games, if even that. I think there's outplay going on here.

when i say the killers fault, i mean everything from their perks to addons to their playstyle.

but its also mostly because of ######### teammates that crouch across the whole map instead of helping you on the hook

I mean you're basically saying it is indeed not a killer issue. It's low rank bad survivor teammates and yalls inability to hit ruin skill checks that hindered you. Even bad teammates you can make sure you aren''t found first so at least you pip. These are player skill issues preventing your pipping.

i can hit skill checks trust me, more than half of the time its because im found first and i have no time to do anything

So if you were found first that was a mistake on you. That's also meaning you went down and didn't lose the killer as well. If we're talking about a game where you got facecamped that's also an extreme minority of games.

kimukipi

Life of a solo queue. Most of my games follow the patterns below.
1. 1 DC before loading. Another DC in game after seeing the other guy DC.
2. I decide to do gens, play stealthy etc. Others run straight, get downed in seconds and initiate a snowball.
3. I decide to carry the team by running the killer. Gens get done but killer decides to tunnel/camp. I end up with a black pip and the least blood points of all.

Truly sucks.

Wolf74

@GT_Legend2 said:
You didn’t do much variety, you didn’t do a lot of gens, you didn’t escape, you didn’t do much altruism, you got good evader points, that’s it

A one trick pony doesn't perform well.
I all can do is loop, you are not a good overall player.

Boss

Currently, ranking's different from "winning".
If you want to rank, you should've hidden after getting unhooked.
If you want to survive, don't complain about what you just did.

I'm not saying i disagree with the ranking being #########, cause it is.
Just saying that, if you want to get both, ya' gotta change up your game.

Peanits

DwightsLifeMatters said:

GT_Legend2 said:

You didn’t do much variety, you didn’t do a lot of gens, you didn’t escape, you didn’t do much altruism, you got good evader points, that’s it

Did u even read his post or r u so bad at understanding? 

I read it, and I agree. There's no variety there, only chases and 45% of a generator.

Blueberry

@Brady said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

I hate hearing this.

You know, I forcefully have to find the Killer and initiate a chase JUST so I can pip. It's frustrating and annoying, and even more annoying when you're either being chased all game, OR doing a M1/RB Simulator all game.

This whole "you have to try to depip" stuff is so inaccurate. If you curbstomp a bad killer, you will most likely safety pip. Sometimes even depip if nobody gets hooked.

Emblem system is broken period. Always thought the point system (Victory Cube) was better.

Sorry but you're just wrong here. Even if the killer is trash and you just M1 and get out, you will still pip. I don't ever actively seek the killer out and have never had issues pipping, I'm not sure where you're getting this.

RepliCant

@Blueberry said:

@Brady said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

I hate hearing this.

You know, I forcefully have to find the Killer and initiate a chase JUST so I can pip. It's frustrating and annoying, and even more annoying when you're either being chased all game, OR doing a M1/RB Simulator all game.

This whole "you have to try to depip" stuff is so inaccurate. If you curbstomp a bad killer, you will most likely safety pip. Sometimes even depip if nobody gets hooked.

Emblem system is broken period. Always thought the point system (Victory Cube) was better.

Sorry but you're just wrong here. Even if the killer is trash and you just M1 and get out, you will still pip. I don't ever actively seek the killer out and have never had issues pipping, I'm not sure where you're getting this.

Everything I said is accurate, you will not pip as a survivor if all 4 of your mates completely destroy a Killer and nobody gets downed. Not saying you will always blackpip, but you won't get higher than a safety pip unless you get Ird. Lightbringer (Objective pts.) and a decent chaser. Which, can be hard to get if the killer sucks so bad he can't even find you lol

and most times this leads me to forcing chasing, so I can pip, and I don't enjoy having to force them and say to the Killer, "Hey, I'm over here. Helllllo!!!!" just so I can get points.

While this is obviously not the scenario everytime, it does happen. You can't say it doesn't.

Blueberry

@Brady said:

@Blueberry said:

@Brady said:

@Blueberry said:
Some of that doesn't add up. You have to actively try extremely hard not to pip as a survivor.

I hate hearing this.

You know, I forcefully have to find the Killer and initiate a chase JUST so I can pip. It's frustrating and annoying, and even more annoying when you're either being chased all game, OR doing a M1/RB Simulator all game.

This whole "you have to try to depip" stuff is so inaccurate. If you curbstomp a bad killer, you will most likely safety pip. Sometimes even depip if nobody gets hooked.

Emblem system is broken period. Always thought the point system (Victory Cube) was better.

Sorry but you're just wrong here. Even if the killer is trash and you just M1 and get out, you will still pip. I don't ever actively seek the killer out and have never had issues pipping, I'm not sure where you're getting this.

Everything I said is accurate, you will not pip as a survivor if all 4 of your mates completely destroy a Killer and nobody gets downed. Not saying you will always blackpip, but you won't get higher than a safety pip unless you get Ird. Lightbringer (Objective pts.) and a decent chaser. Which, can be hard to get if the killer sucks so bad he can't even find you lol

and most times this leads me to forcing chasing, so I can pip, and I don't enjoy having to force them and say to the Killer, "Hey, I'm over here. Helllllo!!!!" just so I can get points.

While this is obviously not the scenario everytime, it does happen. You can't say it doesn't.

Well just safety pip, sure. However, how often does this happen? Hardly ever. That scenario is an exception, not the norm. This happens once maybe every 15 games.