Killer tier list Project W edition
In before the overall "balance changes" that will directly effect killers like Twins!
This is where i think the game is right now.
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sadako is way too high
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I stopped at Sadako.
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Sadako is very strong! You people are not using the right add-ons and perks with her.
You just dont know shes actually really cheap!
I've been playing her for months and rarely lose with her! My win % is about 85-90% with her. I do great with Sadako and thus i naturally i have a stronger opinion about her than most people.
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Really strange list, there's a lot wrong here: For starters, Sadako, Trickster, and the Artist are placed far away from where they truly should be.
- Trickster has solid anti-loop, and is compatible with a lot of perks due to his ability to zone into an M1.
- Sadako is Sadako, nuff said.
- Artist on an Autohaven map is almost guaranteed death.
Nemesis, Dredge, and Bubba are way too high.
Legion, Pinhead, Spirit, and Pyramid Head are way too low.
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Have you considered that your average team is fallible, and stacking strong regression and addons wins you a lot of games regardless of killer you're playing, this is the same reason why people think basekit Nurse needs nerfing.
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I can't take this tierlist seriously at all with Sadako in A+
And Artist in B+ lmao
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what the heck is this lmao?
bubba above pyramid head?? SADAKO IN A TIER???????/ spirit that low? trickster the worst killer in the game? did you make this randomly? I think the only correct placements are nurse and blight lol
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Trickster is ok nothing to run home about!
Sadako is really strong! Artist is good, shes where she should be.
Nemesis, Leatherface and "especially" Dredge are all below the top killers. They are good.
Legion is not great and Spirits usability went down bc of indirect nerfs. Pyramid head is strong and should not be higher. You think he should be A+?
I streak with Sadako and as a result my mmr is high with her, i know what im talking about!
Also your final comment is not true at all. Weak and weaker killers are that for a reason. Best or strongest add-ons are taken into consideration when i make my tier lists!
Sadako is a very strong killer easily! Trickster is the weakest killer in the game doesnt mean hes "bad" he "is" noticeably weaker then the rest though.
I cant take your comment seriously!
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Why do people think Sadako is so weak? Lol crazy!
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Spirit and Artist are waaaaay too low my god.
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Spirit and Artist being "way too low" would mean they would be in C tier, they arent and they certainly arent S tier so they are too low at all.
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Explain please.
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This tierlist, even is very subjective and biased is extremely misleading. Placing Sadako in A+ is nuts, and your comments "Lol crazy" are not changing it by any means. Her power is underwhelming compared to any killer you've put in S/A/B tier.
Placing nightmare in B is just hilarious. These 2 killers should be placed in a category "DO NOT PLAY". The only thing sadako does better than freddy is at sharing her perks. Her perks are solid and great, while Freddy on top of being an absolute trash has absolutely trash perks.
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Facts.. Btw Evan deserves a better tier, if played right and with a bit of luck the trapper can end games really fast.
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Sadako." A+".
¡ Amerika exblain !
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I have to agree with this, not that im so good with her, but i have seen some people be really insane with her.
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A+ Is exactly where Pyramid Head should be, God tier anti loop and God tier tunneling capabilities more than make up for his lack of mobility, gen blocking perks like deadlock and corrupt make him extremely strong.
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Here are my thoughts on it:
Twins are not bottom of A+ more mid A
Sadako is defnitely not mid A+ probably closer to B
Hag isn't top A+ it isnt 2020 anymore
Dredge is more a low A tier
Bubba is still probably A but definitely lower than the likes of PH maybe Nemesis too
Spirit is absurdly low she should be near the top of A+ tier
Billy is not B+ easily mid A
Pinhead is not B+ mid-low A
Why is artist at the bottom of B+ she should be high A+
Legion Ghostface Pig and Trickster are more B
Micheal is C
Clown is C+
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You think doctor is better than artist by a large margin.
Lol.
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I know a lot of other people have pointed out sadako but I really don't see how.
Compare her with the people around her.
Twins has an insane ability to contest gens, very good chase given people stay injured (even okay when healed). Victor doesn't care about W keying. Toy sword exists. Doesn't care too much about predroppers.
Huntress has an ability that shines in deadzones, and at the same time creates them. Great 3 gen defence at range and one of the best camping abilities in the game. This pretty much describes bubba as well just without the good defence.
What does sadako have? Well if she wants to force predrops then she has to use old newspaper. Which at the end of the day creates deadzones with a power that doesn't benefit from them as she'll get easily W keyed. Map traversal on a horrific cooldown of 100s so iri tape against good players is a borderline must have. Condemned does not provide enough pressure to consider it a game changing mechanic.
End of the day it doesn't matter how much pressure a killer can have if they can't down people in time then they aren't that good. Dredge and sadako are living proof of that.
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Its important to understand that the "meta" changes as perks get buffed, nerfed and reworked. Due to perks like Off the Record and Bite the Bullet being common Spirit struggles as she is a sound dependent killer.
Shes A tier for goodness sakes i just put her at the bottom of A tier shes still very good. As far as Artist goes her usage is extremely low and that's because she gets overshadowed by stronger killers. She's good at loops but shes slow like most killers. Shes good too just not in A tier imo.
Underwhelming? Her teleport has very little to no cooldown and you are "forced" to insert vhs tapes into the tv's because of condemned. Once fully condemned she gets a notification and your intoxious stared! Now this overall kit with certain builds is outright terrifying because you "have" to interact with the tv's. If you dont she can teleport there. Then even if you "do" reduce your condemned meter she has a perk that shows her the yellow aura of any tv that is turned off "by any means" which means she knows your over there. She also gets a small burst of speed upon emerging from a television which is good.
She can also walk around undetectable (although there is a slight lulluby of sorts) at 4.6 which no other killer can do. I play her at high mmr, no one really survives my Sadako yet i lose with weaker killers at times using the same builds at times and even on disadvantage maps, theres a reason for this! Sadako is strong, people dont know Sadako!
Trapper isnt higher than C because hes too rng now putting him in C+? I can see that but the reason i put him near the top of C is because most maps created dont have Trapper in mind and these maps are extremely bad for Trapper otherwise in reality hes not that good. His best maps are Yokohoma, MacMillan Estate and "maybe" Elementary School.
I wreck survivor with her 3k and 4king 90% of the time! Sadako is ridiculous!
Read ZVom reply post! Explained.
Its arguable or debatable i'll give you that. The other killers are a little better though because they're not as slow as Pyramid Head!
Twins? I'll give you that one but my stance on them stands atm.
Sadako is top tier easily not mid tier!
Hag gets hits for free and doesnt need to chase! Her camping game is the best and she is easy to use. Top 3 killer easily! No killer plays the game like Hag does and she takes players out of they're element. Your right its not 2020 anymore its 2022 and Hag is bullshit! lol
Spirit is not "absurly low" you are overexagerating! She in A tier and she definitely isnt S!
Billy? I'll give you that, its debatable for sure.
Pinhead should maybe move up in that tier but hes not A.
Artist is overrated. If she was so "top tier" she would be used more. People play all those killers above her but they dont really play Artist, theres a reason for that.
Legion, Pig, Ghostface and Trickster suck compared to the other killers. Especially Pig, shes horrible imo.
Myers is better than Clown!
Whats so funny!? There is no "large margin" Doctor is "one tier" above Artist.
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I like Sadako but I wouldn’t put her much above Wraith personally. 🤷♂️
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This is definitely a tier list of all time
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Sadako and Dredge better than Artist, Spirit, Oni... No, just no.
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While I do agree that Sadako is definitely better than people give her credit
She aint that much better..
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Wraith is good but Sadako is better, leagues better!
Yes just yes she very much is!
You've never ran into or seen a top Sadako like mines shes ridiculous!
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I’ll take your word for it, I do agree she’s a bit underrated though.
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Nurse and blight are tier S?
Who would have thought
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Oh trust me, I've seen many good Sadako players. OnePumpWillie who's the number 1 Sadako I've gone against a few times.
And the reason why he won isn't because of Sadako. Its because he's a decent killer and the average pub team really isn't that hard to deal with, no matter the killer you're playing
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So by that logic Slinger is the best killer in the game since Dead Hard (one of the meta’s best perks) is now crap against him.
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Hes the number 1 Sadako? According to and says who? DBD has too big of a player base and there are no indicators (leaderboards etc) to to even measure "the best"!
Its all a popularity contest. Otzdarva for example loved Plague and played alot of Plague and thinks highly of her (much like me with Sadako) but he wont go around saying hes "the best Plague"! No Otz is a very strong Plague user thats all and there are other strong Plagues like otz to a bigger or lesser degree.
As strong as i am with Hag or Sadako or whoever else i play i would never claim to be the best with that killer because dbd for example is not a fighting game where you can measure and or determine skill and other factors.
I 3 and 4k with her all the time and my mmr "with Sadako" is high so the whole "oh the survivors or team wasnt that good" goes out the window. The problem with dbd is that since things like mmr is hidden and there os 0 indicators to measure how good players are its all just hearsay. DBD is a casual game thats why and is not competetive and sadly will never be in e-sports. Thats the truth and a fact!
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No thats just "one factor" out of a number that i use to make my assessments or conclusions. Therefore there is no "by that logic"! Slinger even with the old Dead Hard still wasnt even top 5 so your counter point or argument is invalid! Nurse was and will always be the best because of her archetype. Shes blinks through objects which is game breaking. You cant compare Slinger to Nurse at all bc shes in a whole other league!
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I don't know if i can post the link here but there is literally a DBD stats website that tracks as a leaderboard
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Sadako is so weak it's pathetic. Whenever anyone asks "Who's the weakest killer in the game?" Some people chime in with Sadako.
The only successful Sadakos I see are running Overcharge, CoB and Merciless Storm or other nasty full slowdown builds.
I do very well with Clown and he is one of my mains, but I can still admit he's a C or D tier killer.
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Yeah you can’t but based off your argument it was all about the “meta,” so you can logically put Slinger at the top because of that. All I’m doing is using your argument for that.
You clearly haven’t seen a good Spirit or Artist if you think they’re below Sadako, Nemesis, and Hag. Spirit is still as strong as before if not she’s even stronger in some situations because her directional audio makes predicting survivors more reliable.
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For what pc players? I highly doubt there could be a overall database leaderboards across all platforms but i could be wrong. Name of player associated with the killer being used and they're overall results? I would love to see that.
No shes not at all none of you know or seen a top Sadako! Your comment about "the only successful Sadakos "you've seen" run Overcharge etc is limited to just that what you've seen. The builds i run with Sadako are unique and synergize and i wreck with her at least with a 85% win rate. This means i constantly 3 and 4k with her and rarely lose no matter the map!
Clown is one of my killers too and i love Clown but hes still weak and cant be compared to killers like Huntress and Hag at all. I win with Clown and do well but i also lose with him thus lowering my mmr with him. I dont lose with Sadako almost at all and the reason that is is because Sadako is bs! I know how good i am but i also know its the character too.
Yeah and at the highest level against high calibur he still isnt nor has he ever been top 5! I've seen good Spirits and Artists the killers are good you just want me to put them S tier or above other killers and i just dont see that because they are not S tier killers.
Hag is in a tier of her own and artist doesnt even come close to being as good as Hag are you kidding me!? Hag gets hits for free, Artist has to work for her hits, big difference!
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Interesting tier list. But there is definitely some things out of order.
For starters: Artist and Spirit are both strong contenders for the 3rd strongest killer in the game. Putting them so low is an insult their potentials.
Hag definitely isn't that high anymore. Maybe low A but not A+. Nostalgia isn't enough to make killers good.
Sadako has no anti-loop and even her strongest addons and most aggressive play style don't change that. Regardless of how confident you feel with her she is B Tier at best.
Trickster belongs straight under the Doctor.
Legion and Clown are both better than Myers. One has a crazy strong 1v1 the other a good 1v4. Myers has neither. He is slow with a power that doesn't really open up new situations and overall very outdated.
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There are leaderboards. They aren't the most accurate thing as the only thing they can track for a specific killer are things relating to achievements. In Sadako's case its applying Condemned to Survivors, which Willie has over 28k. To put that into perspective the next person has 16k.
This also only takes into account players on Steam, but to be honest I don't think theres anyone as dedicated to Sadako on console than Willie is.
Also getting 3 or 4k's all the time really doesn't mean all too much considering the majority of Survivors you verse in pubs aren't great. Even in "high" MMR.
In fact high MMR is basically just the old rank system. There's a soft cap, meaning that say the soft cap is at 1600, well it doesn't matter how high you are. You are going to verse people at 1600 and higher. This information was given by the same group of people who leak things all the time so its pretty safe to assume its accurate.
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So what is your point about bringing "Willie" up in comparison to me or other players whether they are on steam or not. Ok he puts alot of time into Sadako so why bring this up again?
Ok so getting 3k and 4k means absolutely nothing according to you because players are still #########! Ok.....again what is the point you are getting at? With this community its either
1: You won or are winning because players are bad at dbd
2: The killer loses because its a bad map or swf but people have ######### egos and or mentalities and message you "you suck at killer baby killer ez etc (judging off of "one" game might i add)
3: Your playing at a low mmr (baby survivors etc)
4: If killer loses at times its bc its swf
and there are other ridiculous menality states that are poor and rigid in this community so you can never metaphorically win because "everyone" has an excuse. Dont even get me into the "your a sweaty try hard" comments.
I win without Condeming survivors most of the time....oh thats right my wins dont matter according to your logic and Sadako is #########...lol smh
This community man i swear, the mentality of this community is so linear and rigid its unbelievable!
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My point is he's very experienced at Sadako, but he could easily be getting the same results with other killers with much less effort.
I mean you can get 3 to 4k's with pretty much any killer, its not that it means nothing its just that you brought you get these roughly 85-90% of your games. I could be wrong but you're making it seem as if thats you're reasoning as to why she's so high up. Trickster is one of my main killers and I 4k majority of the time, but I wouldn't put him any where near the top. I also have quite a bit of time on Sadako, and I do 4k most of the time while using a modified version of the Condemned playstyle, but I also know she's no where near the top.
Just because a killer is bottom tier doesn't mean its impossible to win with them. I saw you mention fighting games earlier so I'll use that as a reference. Its like using a bottom tier character against a top tier. The person playing the bottom tier still has a chance but is definitely at a disadvantage compared to the person playing the top tier.
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Sadako is not A tier. Period.
You are obviously biased.
I am more scared of all the killers you put in your A and B+ tiers than her.
I regret not doing this and promptly leaving the thread.
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One of the worst lists I've ever seen. Sadako is top 3 worst in the game even the best comp killer rates her this low. The best meaning a proven track record killing at the highest level of comp against the best survivors not low level pub players. No one plays or chooses to go up against her cause she's terrible and a guaranteed 4 out. If you think she's that good try her out against comp teams and get laughed out the scene. Your 90% win rate will be a 90% loss rate lol literally pub players are so hilarious 😂 I can promise you it will be a rude awaking for you lol
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OK, with your logic of "if she was so OP she would be used more" we would see Sadako non stop, but ever since her release, I can count the amount of times I've seen her on 2 hands, maybe even 1
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As a Dredge Main Dredge is Never so High he is just high B Tier Good Survivors can easy Counter him
Sadako is Way to High
Artist is Way to Low she is a A+ Tier Killer
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You need to be subjective when making a list like this. You like Sadako, it's clear, and that is perfectly fine. You do well with her, and probably get 4Ks a good bit. Any person who is good with killer can effectively do the same with any killer on this list.
Let me give you an example: CMWinter is a streamer who is known for being a Pig main. He is insanely good, and makes even Pig look top tier. Is Pig top tier? No she isn't. She has many glaring weaknesses when compared to other killers. Simply speaking, other killers have abilities that just make them better at chasing, better at applying map pressure, better at downing, etc. You even have the Nurse who completely ignores many rules of the games, such as walls, ceilings, loops, pallets, etc.
At this point, it would be best to call this your personal tier list. In the grand scheme of things, much of it would be considered wrong by community standards.
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trickster is far from the worse. if you look at Otz killer stats in his 100's of games with each killer, Trickster is easily high b tier. personally worse is trapper who literally doesnt have a power at all on some maps
his lowest WRs are legion hillbilly and blight actually, but i dont think he likes blight alot
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Sadako stronger then artist?
Artist in b tier?
What?
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