The second iteration of 2v8 is now LIVE - find out more information here: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/480-2v8-developer-update

Least favorite killer

Wraith I absolutely despise facing him I was able to tolerate him before when old Spine chill was around now I just hate him as much as I hated him before.

1. I can barely see him until he's up close

2. I can barely hear him everyone says you can well I can't because I don't use headphones because the ones I have are not good anymore and I'm spending money on a new pair

I just absolutely hate Wraith way more then Nurse because for Nurse she at least enough for me handle it's just hit detection with her isn't good.

For Wraith I straight away know when I face him done I'm screwed because I can not think of a single way to counter him anymore.

Flashlights for some reason barely work on him even though their supposed too, looping a pallet doesn't work because of his speed boost, on maps like Ormond any that are too dark or too bright I can barely see him.

So unless someone has a magical trick of how to deal with Wraith without wanting to rip your hair out oR wanting to DC(NOT PROMPTING DCING) then I just hate Wraith because I can not even find a single way to counter him.

Every killer has a counter but Wraith not at all for what I can see because the only counter I knew of was Spine chill but well it's just as I see a husk of a perk.

Comments

  • aliensuperrstar
    aliensuperrstar Member Posts: 38

    Windows. Force him to uncloak at a window and be a m1 killer. Loop him as an m1 killer

  • ProfessorDunwich
    ProfessorDunwich Member Posts: 1,514

    Legion, Legion, LEGION!

    Can't stand playing against them. Spend a significant percentage of the match mending. Terribly designed.

  • DEMONANCE
    DEMONANCE Member Posts: 800
    edited October 2022

    literally an m1 killer

    but anyways i know otz made a video on how to counter every killer i haven't seen it myself but he's pretty experienced and will probably help you.

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 6,225

    Wraith is very good at fast map traversal, starting chases from close range, and countering W, but he has no tools to loop with at all.

    When he's cloaked, run to a window attached to a wall long enough that he can't sit on the end and lunge from either side. He now has to uncloak in order to do anything to you, because the window blocker will never activate as long as he's cloaked. Failing that, camp a pallet and whack him when he lunges. This is incredibly easy to do and the Wraith can't avoid it, but you don't want to waste too many pallets doing this.

    When he's uncloaked, treat him like any other M1 killer and loop away. If he cloaks again, you want to place yourself in a position where he can't hit you coming out of it. Windows are your best friend.

    Avoid staying injured unless you're in a strong structure. And when on a gen or healing, constantly rotate your camera so that you catch his shimmer before he's right on top of you. Be aware of potential bell addons (normal, mapwide, silent) and act accordingly when observed; be very attentive of nearby LOS blockers if he has a clapper. Also avoid generators that are in complete dead zones unless you're healthy and confident.

    As for hearing him, I use a $10 pair of Walgreens earbuds plugged into my laptop and I can hear Wraith's sound cues just fine. Anything will work and I strongly recommend it over diffuse sound - hearing proper directional audio improves performance drastically, especially as killer.

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,036

    Legion because mending simulator games are tedious as hell.

    Pinhead because his whole power with the chains is obnoxious.

    Nurse for obvious reasons.

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,439

    Huntress because they all proxy camp the entire game.

  • TheSubstitute
    TheSubstitute Member Posts: 2,495
    edited October 2022

    Ghostface. That's not because I have an issue with Ghostface; it's just I see too many of them. The same applies to Wesker right now for the same reason. As soon as the amount of times I see them go down I'll be fine with them.

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,028

    Either Legion , Nurse or Hag. Can't really decide

  • HoodedWildKard
    HoodedWildKard Member Posts: 2,013
    edited October 2022

    Wraith can be annoying but if you force him to uncloak near a pallet/window he will struggle for hits. My personally peast favourite killers to go against have to be pinhead, dredge, plague and huntress.

    Pinhead and dredge have really annoying abilities designed to basically prevent you from playing. Plague just follows you vomiting until you are broken and every huntress i play against seems to proxy camp hook and tunnel the ######### out of you when you are unhooked.

    Oh and nurse obsly. Game will either be a baby nurse and very boring or a sweaty nurse where you have no chance in a chase.

  • Carmina_is_cute
    Carmina_is_cute Member Posts: 94

    Legion and Plague.

    Legion because losing a health state with no counter play and then immediately going into deep wound is unfun. Legion players are also usually the most boring killers.

    Plague because no one in solo q knows how to counter her and she gets red puke all the time. Plague players seem to be cool at least.

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785

    Probably Nurse because she's a completely outdated killer that shouldn't exist anymore and facing a good one is stupidly unfun.

  • FilthyLegionMain
    FilthyLegionMain Member Posts: 1,148

    While I do agree they're fubar, running around and stabbing people CAN be fun, though!

  • Starrseed
    Starrseed Member Posts: 1,774

    I don't get what survs really want. They don't want plague legion or Pinhead because they stretch the game and that's boring but the also don't want nurse blight or weaker because the end cases quickly and make the game to short to get points

  • FilthyLegionMain
    FilthyLegionMain Member Posts: 1,148

    I just think we should have an artificial handicap depending on what killer it is and rework the gen speed and regression perks. Too bad that wouldn't work because well... people. But could it actually work if we put it to the test? Why not another ptb like the mori rework? THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TEST!

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,846

    I know it's an unpopular oppinion but I despise going against the Oni. I can't even explain why. I just hate it. Still, respect for all the good Oni players out there.

  • MaTtRoSiTy
    MaTtRoSiTy Member Posts: 1,947

    One thing I will say about Wraiths is I find a lot of them seem to be the worst offenders for tunnelling and hard camping and you most definitely need to expect NOED

    But personally I hate going against Twins, Trickster or Pinhead far more

  • Hexonthebeach
    Hexonthebeach Member Posts: 461

    Actually it's Wesker. I love playong Weser and playing against. But because everyone playing a build with increased terror range and you hear the whole round his chasemusic, he can be annoying sometimes.

    Change the chasemusic to the Dr. Livesey meme and I could hear it all day. 😎

  • HugTheHag
    HugTheHag Member Posts: 3,140
    edited October 2022

    I really dislike going against Deathslinger and Oni.

    Deathslinger's terror radius gives me depression and I don't like dodging his ranged attacks.

    Oni charges his power too quickly in my opinion, you hear him pop all the time and I find it really annoying to face him.


    On the other side, least favourite killer to play : Nurse

    I haven't played a lot of killers because I'm comfortable with a couple and don't feel the need to switch it up, but out of those I have tried out in games or customs, Nurse is the one I physically can't play. I like her, I think she's cool, her power is cool, I dont' necessarily dislike going against her (since I'm not high mmr, most nurses I see are average and interesting to go agaisnt)...

    But I have pretty terrible object permanence so her looking down when in fatigue makes me lose survivors often, on top of giving me slight motion sickness.

  • MrPenguin
    MrPenguin Member Posts: 2,426
    edited October 2022

    Spirit.: There's residual distaste from her braindead Nurse tier days. Not like she's exactly hard now either, and she's still very strong. Also her constant moaning gets old quick.

    Myers: Almost perma stealth. 1 shot from around the corner because my teammates can't look around. Add-ons do too much. Perma T3 and Tombstone need to go imo. Might not be strong, but boy is he unfun.

    Hillbilly: He's like a fly. Comes around to annoy you chainsaw buzzing, speeds away, then comes back after you think he's gone. He's not nearly as weak as Billy simps make him out to be either.

    Hag: Do I need to explain Hag?

    Freddy: Extremely annoying. The sleep mechanic is extremely tedious if you actually engage with it. The timer is not long enough considering the clock always spawn across the map from you and waking up by another survivor takes exponentially longer. Then he puts you right back to sleep anyway just by hitting you. It should be timer or M1 for sleep, not both. Due to these and his teleport, his matches usually drag on for way too long as well. Then we have the infuriating Lullaby.


    Other than that I don't think I have a problem with the other killers. Thankfully the ones I dislike are fairly rare.

    Post edited by MrPenguin on
  • Anniehere
    Anniehere Member Posts: 1,264

    Same with Wraith here.

    The others are - Huntress, Hag, Nurse, Pinhead, Trickster, Artist. I will pay to not play against them anymore.

  • Xyphus
    Xyphus Member Posts: 139

    Bubba

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 5,723

    Nurse & Hag.

  • LylakLavender
    LylakLavender Member Posts: 339

    Dredge 100% only because it's creepy when you can't see a thing. He could be right next to you and you wouldn't know it LOL.

  • jajay119
    jajay119 Member Posts: 1,061

    Dredge because I find him obnoxiously designed.


    Pinhead because matches against him feel just too oppressive when no one does the box which many won't because they don't want to offer him a free down. Also, because even if you do pick up the box you still get chain hunted making it an all round tedious exercise.


    Fortunately neither of the above are very common

  • Hex_iButt
    Hex_iButt Member Posts: 233

    Hag because Hag.

    The next two I would have to say are Bubba and Pinhead, it's always been these two who end up pitching their tents, roasting marshmallows with their hooked prey in my matches recently.

  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611

    Legion. It's literally mending simulator and I face them a lot. They're one of the worst designed killers in the game.

  • Sadako_Best_Girl
    Sadako_Best_Girl Member Posts: 662

    Hag and plague, don't like to play as them, don't like to play against them.

  • icedrake402
    icedrake402 Member Posts: 145
    edited October 2022

    I think the common factor is when it feels like it doesn't matter what I do. Legion, you're gonna get hit and you can't outrun them. Wraith, because you don't interact with them until they decide they're going to start chasing you now. Hag because they always bring Devour Hope and the team always lets it go to level 5 rather than dropping everything and hex hunting. Huntress because there's nothing like being wounded by an axe that flies by six inches away from your arm. God Nurses (not bad nurses or the rare GOOD Nurse, they're pretty fun) where I know two minutes in that I could just DC now and have absolutely no effect on the match. Also Trapper--yes, I know he's not overpowered by any means, but it feels annoyingly random whether or not teammates step in the traps and get the snowball started.

    Bonus points for Huntress and Legion due to how annoying their music is.