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Stuck In MMR Hell

I dont really know how to put this, but Im stuck in a situation that is VERY difficult to get out of.

I recently got a PC and swapped from PS4 to PC (leaving stuff behind obviously), as a result, getting a new account (through Steam) basically has me at bedrock MMR, paired with brand new players that just hide the entire game.

Most matches result in me completing 3-4 generators and dying on first hook by either getting face-camped for running the killer too well (therefore teammates do not try to save me out of fear) or my teammates would rather continue hiding instead of going for the save.

Im stuck in a situations where I do everything yet never escape, and my teammates do nothing and also never escape.

In this example, my only decent teammate was the Yui, they lasted pretty long in chase and did generators. My two other teammates hid for the entire match and both were producing constant noise notifications from having 3 AFK crows on them.

Also, I had spectated a match that lasted until the servers closed due to a prolonged time limit... 2 people were hiding from the start of the match FOR THE FULL MATCH TIMER (basically taking the game hostage for the killer as well).

Comments

  • lauraa
    lauraa Member Posts: 3,195

    you might have to adapt to your...meta, as much as I hate to say it. It's not realistic to carry entire teams like that so your only realistic option is to be a Jake and crouch with Iron Will as your friends around you suffer a grisly demise.

  • Uistreel
    Uistreel Member Posts: 634

    Try swf. Dbd discord has people wanting to play pretty sure

  • Hensen2100
    Hensen2100 Member Posts: 339

    Sole survivor bruh. Gets you out the exit gate AND gets you the MMR still. Unfortunately DBD isn't a game where you carry a bad team. Even if you are the best looper in the lobby, the killer can just ignore you and tunnel your teammates to death before you can hold M1 long enough to win.

    Not to mention the DCs and suicides while playing solo Q. I always run sole survivor or left behind unless I am specifically going for points or running a meme build. Anytime I enter a match without either of those perks I accept I will die in circumstances beyond my control in many cases

    Sole survivor is nice because you don't have to announce you are a hatch rat with a key. You can just run a medkit and blend in as a regular survivor until the time to strike (aka stab your team in the back) arrives.

    3 survivors alive. Someone is on the hook, another survivor is being chased, with 2-3 gens left? Whoops, I didn't make it to the hook in time and now they are both dead. My bad. I will stop doing it when it stops working

  • Uistreel
    Uistreel Member Posts: 634

    Yeah I get it. You might be able to find some who don't require you to talk to them, just playing. You'd be able to maintain the solo playstyle whilst not worrying that your teammates are completely new.

  • Iron_Cutlass
    Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,362

    I do not have the Halloween DLC on this account, and Im going to wait a bit before forking over more money since I dont want my bank account to be put on hold.

  • SoulKey
    SoulKey Member Posts: 338


    Which server are you playing on ? If you on EU, you can add me and chill...i don't play with voice comm either even when playing with a friend.

  • Nyxsie
    Nyxsie Member Posts: 39
    edited October 2022

    Rank resets tomorrow. So in the chance for a fresh start; dodge lobbies.

  • kizuati
    kizuati Member Posts: 1,386

    Oh yeah you're screwed. You know how I got out? Play with a 3-man who already have a really high MMR. Otherwise bye bye,hope you enjoy the 90% killrate!

  • Iron_Cutlass
    Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,362
    edited October 2022

    Ranks/Grades and MMR are too separate things. Ranks/Grades do not contribute to matchmaking, it's just a monthly incentive to play the game for Bloodpoints. MMR is what calculates who you are paired with/against.

  • Nyxsie
    Nyxsie Member Posts: 39

    I'm aware but I was under the impression that MMR resets along with the Rank each month.

  • Iron_Cutlass
    Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,362

    MMR does not reset, the only time it ever has was when it was first introduced since they used MMR data from prior tests but wanted a clean slate to start on.

  • th3syst3m
    th3syst3m Member Posts: 394

    My best advice is to SWF out, even if you don't want to. Just find a group and play with them for a few weeks.

  • Nyxsie
    Nyxsie Member Posts: 39

    Oh. I feel silly. lol

    Anyways, it seems like a SWF is the only reasonable way to get out of that situation, but yea.. definitely hard without comms. When I played survivor more often I would just add anyone that did well in games, eventually I had a silent swf. But even if you find one or two others to play with you're going to increase your escape chance a lot

  • Ghalam
    Ghalam Member Posts: 99

    I'll be glad to swf with you and not use comms. I work at a place I have to talk all day so I also have massive anxiety over voice chat with random people. I'm super average at the game but I try to do the objective.

  • Lobos
    Lobos Member Posts: 212

    Honestly the situation isn't much different right now playing in the mid or high MMR.

    I've been playing in pub trials with really high prestige players on my team that clearly have a lot of hours playing the game and they are so entitled. They feel they don't have to work on gens because "It's boring"

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Sole Survivor, Left Behind/clairvoyance

    Learn how to open the gate just enough so the first red light doesn't light up

    When you play solo queue the most important skill to learn is to see when you need to play for hatch

    Don't start doing it from the start of the match ofcourse but if you are seeing that your team isn't going to make it you need to learn to change tactics

    Every escape via hatch is mmr you didn't lose and don't have to gain again. Escaping through the gate when you are last alive still bumbs you up.

    Once you are out of mmr hell you can play more normally again but if you want out you need to adjust to your situation

  • Nirgendwohin
    Nirgendwohin Member Posts: 1,251

    I feel you! Just ask the good people after the game if you can add them to your friends list and if they want to play together even without voice. It's better to play with known good people without communication then seeing everyone urban evade around while you die on the hook.

  • Nihlus
    Nihlus Member Posts: 301

    This is the problem with MMR being based around escape/death and literally nothing else. It rewards nothing aside from going through that exit gate. Doesn't matter if you have any skill whatsoever. If you walk through the gate, you go up. If you don't you go down. So to get better teammates, you have to literally do nothing but escape. As Sonzaishinai said: Sole Survivor, Wake Up. Let them all die and then leave.

    Or just get friends and SWF with people that aren't on par with lemmings.

  • ProfessorDunwich
    ProfessorDunwich Member Posts: 1,514
    edited October 2022

    This picture has to be the best representation of SoloQ I have seen. I described literally this exact scene a few days ago.

  • Jay_K
    Jay_K Member Posts: 473

    I may be getting this wrong but isn't there cross progression you can activate. Surely if you activate cross progression then your MMR will also move over.

    However if it isnt an option trust me survivors don't get any better mid/top MMR. I'm a killer main and i believe my MMR hit the soft cap or is close to it. I constantly see lobbies where you get 1 survivor who knows what their doing and 3 that just have no clue or don't want to play properly.

  • kizuati
    kizuati Member Posts: 1,386
  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    It's unfortunate, but this game is balanced around SWF - as that's the only way to be fair to killers.

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,445

    This is really frustrating and I feel for you. I don't think the devs have ever confirmed whether MMR placement matches take place on fresh accounts, but it's completely asinine if they don't. As another poster said, DbD isn't a carry game on the survivor side unless the killer makes terrible decisions. But the matchmaker seems to think it is to some degree, and you often see 2 relatively skilled survivors and 2 relatively weak survivors in the same lobby which often ends in a 4k. It's really frustrating.

  • JustAnotherNewbie
    JustAnotherNewbie Member Posts: 1,941

    What about seeing 3 people on the same gen on the other end of the map when you're about to hit stage 2 on your hook?😂

    Frustrating in a different sort of way, team just deciding to turn you into a sacrificial lamb. Somehow I ended up making it to the end of the game after Bill saved me (we could do the last gen).

    They're both frustrating, in the first case cause you don't stand a chance to ever get those gens done and in the second cause you won't really get to play much. If they're SWF and they're buddy gets hooked while you're on hook as well you know they're getting prioritized.

  • Okonar_
    Okonar_ Member Posts: 499

    I don't know how often you play, but if you play daily for a couple of weeks you might just climb enough to get at least more "normal" players

  • Iron_Cutlass
    Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,362

    Cross-progression only exists between Stadia and PC due to the Stadia Closure (aka Stadia is being shut down, so BHVR is forced to let people care over their progress to another account).

    Cross-progression could be in the works for all we know, we do not have much information in regards to it though.

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 2,984

    I play a very carefree, altruistic playstyle as a solo surv, and this has caused me to become careless, die a lot, and slide into MMR hell a few times even at 1k+ hours.

    Unfortunately the way out is to play selfishly. It's not fun (tedious, really) and it feels scummy, but the alternative is staying in MMR hell, unless you do SWF, which I don't do.