What is classed as bannable body blocking?

Dead_by_David

Bit unsure of this and I do not want to break the rules.

If I see a survivor in a corner and I trap them there, hitting them twice with no chance of escape (not holding them hostage there) or as a survivor blocking the killer from the hook.

Just want a clear understanding of what is cheating/holding the game hostage and will get me banned. (I appreciate that people have opinions on what people should be banned for but I just want to know what is an actual offence for now :chuffed: )

Delfador

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

Orion

I think it only applies when the Killer holds the game hostage or when Survivors sandbag each other to farm with the Killer.

Dead_by_David

@Orion Sorry for the really nooby questions but how do they farm with the killer? I have never seen this.

Freudentrauma

Like mentioned. It's only bannable, if it's used in some form of griefing. Like a Killer holding the game hostage or a survivor trapping another one in a corner, so they can't participate in the game anymore until the killer finds and "frees" them. I had the last situation once. One survivor was on the hook, while I chased another one. I wondered why no one was rescuing the guy on the hook, who got sacrificied. In the end the raven notification triggered.
One guy trapped another one for no reason. I mean I led the trapped one go and chased the other one, but I think that kind of behaviour is a bannable offense e.g.

Orion

@Dead_by_David said:
@Orion Sorry for the really nooby questions but how do they farm with the killer? I have never seen this.

Bodyblock one Survivor. Killer goes in, hits that Survivor only, they heal the Survivor, rinse and repeat.

Dead_by_David

@Orion Oh, that is a rubbish way to play! Thank you for your help!

Orion

@Dead_by_David said:
@Orion Oh, that is a rubbish way to play! Thank you for your help!

Indeed it is. If you see it happen, make sure to report everyone involved.

Dolphin9192

@Delfador said:

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

Unless you think they have borrowed time and you are waiting the 30 seconds for it to run out.

JammyJewels

I’ve had many killers tell me they’ll get me banned for body blocking a hook, to which I have to explain that We’re Gonna Live Forever is literally built for such an act to be rewarded. However, I believe that survivors bodyblocking other survivors and killers body blocking survivors, if made in an attempt to prevent the survivor from playing, is bannable.

Master

@Dead_by_David said:
Bit unsure of this and I do not want to break the rules.

If I see a survivor in a corner and I trap them there, hitting them twice with no chance of escape (not holding them hostage there) or as a survivor blocking the killer from the hook.

Just want a clear understanding of what is cheating/holding the game hostage and will get me banned. (I appreciate that people have opinions on what people should be banned for but I just want to know what is an actual offence for now :chuffed: )

Both is perfectly acceptable (even though the first one is impossible since the survivor can walk through you after one hit)

The only bannable bodyblocking is if you litrally force someone to be afk for several minutes

HellDescent

griefing is banable, everything else is fine

DwightsLifeMatters

Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

Delfador

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

Yeah I was gonna say forcing them to leave the game but I couldn't find a reason to make my sentence longer. I should have specified it.

It is also okay to trap people to force the RBT kill with the pig.

Dead_by_David

@Delfador @DwightsLifeMatters I had never considered Borrowed Time or RBT. I would have thought that RBT would be bannable due to how long it would take for them to die but I will remember this.

redsopine01

Delfador said:

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

Yeah I was gonna say forcing them to leave the game but I couldn't find a reason to make my sentence longer. I should have specified it.

It is also okay to trap people to force the RBT kill with the pig.

I would just wound them and then crouch follow them till it goes off meaning they have no way to survive and don't get points for it as you stalk them like michale does to his babysitter

Peanits

What you described is not bannable. It actually wouldn't work either since hitting them allows them to pass through you briefly.

Bodyblocking is bannable when it is used to hold the game hostage or grief, such as blocking a survivor in a corner and sitting there for a long period of time just so they can't play. Or sandbagging, where you intentionally jump in from of someone and block their path so the killer hits them.

AlwaysInAGoodShape

@Dead_by_David said:
Bit unsure of this and I do not want to break the rules.

If I see a survivor in a corner and I trap them there, hitting them twice with no chance of escape (not holding them hostage there) or as a survivor blocking the killer from the hook.

Just want a clear understanding of what is cheating/holding the game hostage and will get me banned. (I appreciate that people have opinions on what people should be banned for but I just want to know what is an actual offence for now :chuffed: )

1 Step ahead of you:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/33884/bodyblocking-and-keeping-the-game-hostage-should-be-legal/p1

purebalance

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

I posed this in the other thread and it went unanswered. So it's ok for you to wait out BT by bodyblocking the basement. If survivors found a way to body block myers somewhere for EW3's duration where he couldn't attack it would be fine? Same situation really.

DwightsLifeMatters

purebalance said:

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

I posed this in the other thread and it went unanswered. So it's ok for you to wait out BT by bodyblocking the basement. If survivors found a way to body block myers somewhere for EW3's duration where he couldn't attack it would be fine? Same situation really.

There is no way to bodyblock Myers cuz he just has to stalk to get no body collision. Also, u need to be close to Myers to bodyblock but then u get just simply M1ed 

Dreamnomad

@purebalance said:

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

I posed this in the other thread and it went unanswered. So it's ok for you to wait out BT by bodyblocking the basement. If survivors found a way to body block myers somewhere for EW3's duration where he couldn't attack it would be fine? Same situation really.

I remember that thread and answered your question already. Yes, it is okay for a killer to body block survivors in a basement to wait out Borrowed Time. That is a perfectly valid strategy. As for your Evil Within question, if there was a valid in game mechanic to waste the killers time to wait out the EW3 then sure.

There will never be a way for survivors to legally trap the killer though so it's a moot point. You can't body block the killer as he can just hit you. If there is a way for you to trap the killer where he can't hit you such as the on the tractor or in the swamp, that is clearly a bug and abusing it is bannable. You can however loop the killer until EW3 resets.

And by the way, trapping the killer is in no way shape or form the same thing as trapping a survivor. If the killer is trapping a survivor then the other survivors are still working generators or other objectives. If the survivors were able to trap the killer then he/she can no longer work toward their objectives at all. It really is an apple and oranges comparison. Consider your question answered twice now.

purebalance

@Dreamnomad said:

@purebalance said:

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

I posed this in the other thread and it went unanswered. So it's ok for you to wait out BT by bodyblocking the basement. If survivors found a way to body block myers somewhere for EW3's duration where he couldn't attack it would be fine? Same situation really.

I remember that thread and answered your question already. Yes, it is okay for a killer to body block survivors in a basement to wait out Borrowed Time. That is a perfectly valid strategy. As for your Evil Within question, if there was a valid in game mechanic to waste the killers time to wait out the EW3 then sure.

There will never be a way for survivors to legally trap the killer though so it's a moot point. You can't body block the killer as he can just hit you. If there is a way for you to trap the killer where he can't hit you such as the on the tractor or in the swamp, that is clearly a bug and abusing it is bannable. You can however loop the killer until EW3 resets.

And by the way, trapping the killer is in no way shape or form the same thing as trapping a survivor. If the killer is trapping a survivor then the other survivors are still working generators or other objectives. If the survivors were able to trap the killer then he/she can no longer work toward their objectives at all. It really is an apple and oranges comparison. Consider your question answered twice now.

No you didn't answer the question. You said if there was a way to waste their time in EW3. Not the same as what is happening with BT in the basement. If survivors found a way in game to body block a Myers to where he couldn't attack anyone, but only did it until EW3 wore off it would be exactly the same.

purebalance

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
purebalance said:

@DwightsLifeMatters said:

Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

I posed this in the other thread and it went unanswered. So it's ok for you to wait out BT by bodyblocking the basement. If survivors found a way to body block myers somewhere for EW3's duration where he couldn't attack it would be fine? Same situation really.

There is no way to bodyblock Myers cuz he just has to stalk to get no body collision. Also, u need to be close to Myers to bodyblock but then u get just simply M1ed 

You didn't read the part about not being able to hit anyone. Everyone is claiming it's ok to trap them until BT runs out. So if there was a way that survivors found to trap a Myers and only used it until EW3 wore off, it would be fine right? I highly doubt it and it would be posted on forums requesting bans for whoever did it.

DwightsLifeMatters

purebalance said:

@DwightsLifeMatters said:
purebalance said:

@DwightsLifeMatters said:

Delfador said:

Both of what you said are fine, though when you hit them once, they can pass through you.

If you body block them in a corner or in the basement, not allowing them to leave, you can get banned for it.

This is more clustered. If u trap them in the basement to wait our borrowed time ur fine, but trapping them for several minutes is reportable and can get u banned 

I posed this in the other thread and it went unanswered. So it's ok for you to wait out BT by bodyblocking the basement. If survivors found a way to body block myers somewhere for EW3's duration where he couldn't attack it would be fine? Same situation really.

There is no way to bodyblock Myers cuz he just has to stalk to get no body collision. Also, u need to be close to Myers to bodyblock but then u get just simply M1ed 

You didn't read the part about not being able to hit anyone. Everyone is claiming it's ok to trap them until BT runs out. So if there was a way that survivors found to trap a Myers and only used it until EW3 wore off, it would be fine right? I highly doubt it and it would be posted on forums requesting bans for whoever did it.

But again, if u hold M2 as Myers u don't have collision box anymore, so you can go through survivors. 

powerbats

What @purebalance is saying is accurate, the survivors can't simply bodyblock a killer without taking hits and or getting downed. In the case of EW Myers they can't body block him since the predictable outcome is EW III and having Myers hold M2 is a deflection.

If somehow the survivors found a way to body block a killer without taking hits it'd get hotfixed pretty quickly since that'd be an exploit. If you bodyblock someone so they can't move but take no other actions that's considered taking the game hostage.

@DwightsLifeMatters Again with the deflection, the killer has to hold M2 to not bodyblock so then they couldn't block the person to wait out BT. The issue is that the killer can boy block without the survivor having any recourse. The killer can simply M1 to get themselves unblocked and if they have an instant down EW III, exposed etc it's not an issue.

redsopine01

powerbats said:

What @purebalance is saying is accurate, the survivors can't simply bodyblock a killer without taking hits and or getting downed. In the case of EW Myers they can't body block him since the predictable outcome is EW III and having Myers hold M2 is a deflection.

If somehow the survivors found a way to body block a killer without taking hits it'd get hotfixed pretty quickly since that'd be an exploit. If you bodyblock someone so they can't move but take no other actions that's considered taking the game hostage.

@DwightsLifeMatters Again with the deflection, the killer has to hold M2 to not bodyblock so then they couldn't block the person to wait out BT. The issue is that the killer can boy block without the survivor having any recourse. The killer can simply M1 to get themselves unblocked and if they have an instant down EW III, exposed etc it's not an issue.

Not forgetting if they have infinate and tombstone there gonna mori you all for it

Broosmeister

I played with my friend the other day and he got hooked in the basement ( 1st hook of the game ) the wraith just stood at the bottom of the stairs so i did gens, the wraith left when he was dead. I reported him for unsportsmanlike behaviour, this is bannable right?

Khroalthemadbomber

To use an example: A story that I heard about was a survivor on the Thomson's House map that went into the house for the second floor chest, having had a RBT on their head and it was beeping. The Pig followed behind him, and body blocked him in against the chest until the RBT killed him. Now while this is dirty, underhanded, and totally the survivor's fault for 1.) not paying attention to his surroundings and 2.) looting a chest while his head is in the process of exploding, it's TECHNICALLY not bannable. HOWEVER, if the survivor in question did not have a RBT on their head, and the pig had just held him there, leaving the survivor unable to do anything, that would be a bannable body block.

twistedmonkey

Broosmeister said:

I played with my friend the other day and he got hooked in the basement ( 1st hook of the game ) the wraith just stood at the bottom of the stairs so i did gens, the wraith left when he was dead. I reported him for unsportsmanlike behaviour, this is bannable right?

No that's not bannable, the game was still progressing.

The only thing bannable is holding the game hostage which stops the game progressing and the side being blocked is stuck with no way out of the situation other than to leave the game.

Dead_by_David

So just to summarise, it's all good as long as you are not taking the game hostage or manipulating it to farm.

@AlwaysInAGoodShape Sorry, I should have looked first! xD

KillerKiryu47

Doesn't body blocking fall under exploits?

Skittlesthehusky

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/773188#Comment_773188

nope! an exploit is considered the abuse of a glitch or a failure of game design. body blocking uses body physics as a way to prevent someone going a certain way, while they still have the ability to move and do some things (situational).

CrowFoxy

When you hit a survivor, they briefly lose collision.

Objectively_speaking

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/250450#Comment_250450

Here's a simple breakdown

Killer:One survivor left, EGC Hasn't started yet (batch open, not closed) you find survivor in a corner and trapped them there. (Game can't progress unless you hit them, this if it persists can be bannable.)

Survivor:Body blocking any other survivor (in corner) or purposefully sandbaging to aid killer.

Volfawott

For Killers it basically means blocking somebody in an area where they are not able to leave unless they disconnect for a long period of time.

Trapping a survivor for a short period of time just to use your power is perfectly fine.

Also if they do have a timer or something that would get rid of them, it's fine granted I'll probably be looked down upon but you won't get banned.

This means trapping someone in a corner with endgame collapse or an active reverse bear trap timer. They have a timer and they will die eventually it's not considered taking the game hostage but as I said it's not looked highly upon.

As for survivors this basically means trapping another survivor in an area where are they can't escape unless they disconnect.

Doing it to sandbag would fall more under griefing and if you're doing it to work with the killer well that's a bannable offense its own