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So DH has to go, than...

BlueHorkew
BlueHorkew Member Posts: 1,081

Ok nerf DH because of the whole sniffing butts thing, if we remove the sniffing butts trying to grab a healthy survivor trying to unhook.

If one is an issue and has to go, than the other is only to go as well. Is that fair?

Comments

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,965
    edited March 2023

    I'd take a movement speed nerf at this point. Just kill DH. No matter what the price, I'll happily pay it.

    No more healthy survivor grabs, 30 seconds gens, survivors moving at 110%, 50 pallets per map, weapons for survivors to kill the killer you name it!

    Anything is better than sniffing your butt for X amount of time.

  • BlueHorkew
    BlueHorkew Member Posts: 1,081

    I have seen all kinds of takes around here, including people defending hook grabs. So, i wouldn't be surprised

  • solarjin1
    solarjin1 Member Posts: 2,390

    I'm cool with that. Hook grabs are just as cheesy. Sitting there just waiting like a cornball

  • Sometimes_Sage
    Sometimes_Sage Member Posts: 144

    I think the correct analogue here would be demanding the removal of the abillity to cancel an unhook attempt.

    Regardless I'd gladly give up unhook grabs to be rid of Dead Hard.

  • Trollinmon
    Trollinmon Member Posts: 691

    I find it odd that hook grabs are still in the game. High level swf are able to bypass the mechanic by sending 2 players and it really only affects uncoordinated teams. Removing both those things would be pretty cool.

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 6,865

    Did we finally break you @BlueHorkew? We are just as passionate as you are.

  • BlueHorkew
    BlueHorkew Member Posts: 1,081

    I mean, i still don't hate DH. But i don't use it nowadays and hook grabs are basically the same BS.

    I would also find it really funny if someone came here to defend hook grabs. But i guess everyone agreeing on something is kinda nice for change

  • Unimatrix00
    Unimatrix00 Member Posts: 475

    What's wrong with hook grabs? If you're "intelligent" enough to try to rescue a survivor on hook in front of the killer, well... isn't the grab deserved? I think so.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 6,861

    whataboutism is a logical fallacy for a reason.


    How about, things can just be bad for the game and should be changed, regardless of which side it is for?

  • Monlyth
    Monlyth Member Posts: 1,099

    Sounds good to me. I usually don't even bother going for hook grabs, it's a stupid mindgame. I usually just take the trade and move on.

  • wydyadoit
    wydyadoit Member Posts: 1,140

    i'll defend hook grabs. i like interrupt mechanics. i play meyers and ghost face. and sometimes i play spirit or nurse.

    if done correctly and not just for camping purposes it can lead to a scary moment that adds real excitement to an otherwise boring match.

  • Hi_Im_Chucky
    Hi_Im_Chucky Member Posts: 366

    Sucks on Console, have it, every time I get it I’m rewound and told I just hit the survivor instead. Easy trade for the most broken perk. Love seeing it on every survivor but it’s ‘not so bad’ lol

  • BlightedDolphin
    BlightedDolphin Member Posts: 1,965

    I agree with removing hook grabs but I don’t agree with the “if DH goes it must go too” logic.

    Both should be adjusted because they suck and not because one side needs a nerf to justify the other.

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 6,233

    If you're a moron who thinks the killer doesn't hear you running behind them on the way to the hook, yeah, you deserve to get yoinked.

    But mostly it's just something that habitual campers rely on when they sit around waiting for rescuers to show up. Camping would be much weaker if it wasn't a near-guaranteed down from healthy, either from grabs or from the wait-for-them-to-hit-you -> unhook -> get-hit-again chain that grabbing forces.

  • Gamall
    Gamall Member Posts: 487

    Hook grabs must be removed regardless

  • Sava18
    Sava18 Member Posts: 2,514
    edited March 2023

    I really don't think hook grabs should exist still but I would like to point out that every streamer I watch gets them validated more often than not.

    Edit: It's actually just grabs in general. Quite a bit of the time a grab at a pallet gets validated into a hit. Memories of grab validation into dh validation come to mind as well. I even have a clip of getting grab validated into a missed hit because a laggy ash had lithe.

  • CamperSluggerVillain
    CamperSluggerVillain Member Posts: 164

    killers have already lost of ton of perks thru the years the meta has come and gone many times just nerf dead hard so it can be gone too you'll get used to it don't worry just adept like killers have been doing for years

  • Bran
    Bran Member Posts: 2,100

    Nah man, no reason to take away hook grabs.