Understanding The Entity.
So i have been trying to grasp this malevolent being for quite some time to the point to where it's become my new obsession. This thing is said to be evil in its purest form, but this thing, from what we have seen seems to only have 3 forms. Where did this being come from? How did it manifest itself?
Birth:
The only way i think of this existing is similar to the most recent marvel villain Knull, who is known as the "God of the symbiotes" Knull is said to have existed before us, and resided in a place filled with nothing but The Void of space and darkness. Now the way i see it, is this is how The Entity is thought to have come about, if we look at it a certain way, this thing has probably existed way before us and when the earth and our solar system was made, like a baby it only wanted one thing. Food.
The First Trials:
When the first trials came about, the way i see them is something along the lines of medieval times, where people were taken and subjected to massive amounts of pain and torture, where the only way they could ever "escape" would be through the lighting of some kind of source to weaken the grasp of The Entity, where it would allow them to leave but only for a spare moment in time until they were called upon to continue their trials.
Previous Survivors:
The people that have come and gone probably reside in The Void, where there is nothing but the husks of their former selves, kept in a small pocket where they see nothing but darkness. This is a place where you don't want to be.
The Void:
Which brings us to our next subject. The devs have stated that this void is nothing but darkness and is where the husks of the survivors are stored after having the hope sucked out of them. They are then stored in The Void until they give up, and their current self is place in The Void, with nothing but them self to keep them company.
Hope Status:
For our Current Survivors, i would say that Hope is very low for them, their is only so much one could take in a realm where they are subjected to mass amounts of pain and torture, only to die or escape and repeat the same thing over and over. I would say that it is not long before the devs decide to remove one of them and place them either with The killers or in The Void.
Ways of escape:
As of now i can only think of really one way to possibly escape this realm. Since The Entity is weak to massive amounts of light, i can only suggest that if one repairs 4 generators, and leaves one nearly done and at the precise moment throw something inside of it as it is lighting up and starting, the mass amount of light would cause the hold of The Entity to severely weaken, thus when The Exit gates are powered, one would have to open the gate. Thus revealing a white light, when stepping through, it can only be theorized that you would arrive in the place where it first took you. Hopefully you won't make the same mistake of falling into it's claws again.
The Goal Of The Entity:
I can only suspect that the goal of this thing is to overtake our world, to where it has multiple individual realms or "Pocket Dimensions" as one would call it, where it would force people to survive against the mass amount of killers that it has at it's disposal. At the rate we are currently in in the game, i would say that this thing is probably at the very least 40-50% close to developing a mass presence in our world. And we may not know it, but it sure does and it can only be theorized that if their are rumors of cults that are in the world of DBD worshiping this malevolent being, then that will do nothing but push its existence through the roof, and give it the boost it needs to manifest in our world.
In Conclusion:
I think that this thing is almost close to it's goal, and i believe that this thing can manifest in some way in our world. I also believe that when it does, there will be nothing but complete chaos.
TLDR; There is no TLDR just read the damn thing, if my fingers hurt from typing all this then your eyes are going to hurt to.
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If I remember right, the devs debunked the "the Entity is weak to light" theory
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I'd say the entity just gets amusement put pu watching people coming onto hope when it's pointless. I don't think the survivors will ever escape, but if they give up then they'd die for real? Or something else. But mainly I think it's just the entity being amused that they think there's a way out when there isn't.0
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I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.0
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.This could be true, maybe the hold that this being has over the realm is weak. I think this probably has something to do with the recent blight that befell it, I think that when that happened it caused all those massive tumors and stuff to grow around the realm and this is probably the entities cancer. This is what's probably weakened its hold.
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Actually the lore released with the blight states that the blight is a necessary cleaning for the entity (as the entity is everything you see in game)Detective_Jonathan said:@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.This could be true, maybe the hold that this being has over the realm is weak. I think this probably has something to do with the recent blight that befell it, I think that when that happened it caused all those massive tumors and stuff to grow around the realm and this is probably the entities cancer. This is what's probably weakened its hold.
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
Detective_Jonathan said:@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.
This could be true, maybe the hold that this being has over the realm is weak. I think this probably has something to do with the recent blight that befell it, I think that when that happened it caused all those massive tumors and stuff to grow around the realm and this is probably the entities cancer. This is what's probably weakened its hold.
Actually the lore released with the blight states that the blight is a necessary cleaning for the entity (as the entity is everything you see in game)
Really? I honestly didn't see anything to where it says it is necessary for it to be cleaned. I guess when i thought of blight i usually thought of like sickness.
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Just search for the hallowed blight dbd wiki and it should be the first thingDetective_Jonathan said:@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
Detective_Jonathan said:@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.
This could be true, maybe the hold that this being has over the realm is weak. I think this probably has something to do with the recent blight that befell it, I think that when that happened it caused all those massive tumors and stuff to grow around the realm and this is probably the entities cancer. This is what's probably weakened its hold.
Actually the lore released with the blight states that the blight is a necessary cleaning for the entity (as the entity is everything you see in game)
Really? I honestly didn't see anything to where it says it is necessary for it to be cleaned. I guess when i thought of blight i usually thought of like sickness.
https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/The_Hallowed_Blight
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OMG NEA COULD BECOME A KILLEER.
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.if i remember correctly we dont actually know what happened to vigo and benidict and all we know is that vigo has left the entitys realm.
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
if i remember correctly we dont actually know what happened to vigo and benidict and all we know is that vigo has left the entitys realm.Not even that. Vigo is simply not a Survivor any more. We have no idea where or what he is now.
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Last I know we heard of Vigo I think was in the hallowed blight you see either vigo or Benedict collecting the serum and during the lore Benedict finds Vigos notes and "abandoned" lab but he gets attacked by a killer with a "metallic jaw" the trapper's mask spears to be wooden so it's not him before you say anything, so who is this unknown killer? But I divulge in the end Benedict goes on the hunt for vigo hopped up on entity juice, and this is where we get to the last page of the hallowed blight lore, "it's here, it has found me, the Entity has come for me".@XxAtomicAlfiexX said: if i remember correctly we dont actually know what happened to vigo and benidict and all we know is that vigo has left the entitys realm.
I agree we don't know where they are but we do know
A. Vigo and Benedict both injected themselves with the serum,
B. It wasn't long after taking the serum that the entity came for benedict. What happened after that is anyone's guess but if the entity came for Benedict then it would have for vigo too. I think they are still in the enity's realm just moved from place to place and time to time to keep them from out doing the entity again, to show them this is his realm.0 -
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said: if i remember correctly we dont actually know what happened to vigo and benidict and all we know is that vigo has left the entitys realm.Last I know we heard of Vigo I think was in the hallowed blight you see either vigo or Benedict collecting the serum and during the lore Benedict finds Vigos notes and "abandoned" lab but he gets attacked by a killer with a "metallic jaw" the trapper's mask spears to be wooden so it's not him before you say anything, so who is this unknown killer? But I divulge in the end Benedict goes on the hunt for vigo hopped up on entity juice, and this is where we get to the last page of the hallowed blight lore, "it's here, it has found me, the Entity has come for me".
I agree we don't know where they are but we do know
A. Vigo and Benedict both injected themselves with the serum,
B. It wasn't long after taking the serum that the entity came for benedict. What happened after that is anyone's guess but if the entity came for Benedict then it would have for vigo too. I think they are still in the enity's realm just moved from place to place and time to time to keep them from out doing the entity again, to show them this is his realm.i dont think the blight journal pages were benidicts because, if i remember correctly, he ditched his notebook to focus on surviving. benidict and vigo seem like they will/have survive(d) they're trials and vigo is no longer in the entity's realms (thanks @Orion ) so there is a possibility of escaping the entity all together (or vigo died but i dont think he did). vigo is gone all together but benidict is questionable as far as i know. also the trappers mask is made of bone, we know this because of the leather face trailer, dont ask me how he got bone that size im not sure.
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
vigo is no longer in the entity's realms (thanks @Orion )Again, you're still misunderstanding. We don't know what happened to Vigo. All we know is that he's not a Survivor any more. He could still be in the Fog or he could not. He could have even become a part of the Entity. Anything's possible.
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
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@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
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@Orion said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
vigo is no longer in the entity's realms (thanks @Orion )Again, you're still misunderstanding. We don't know what happened to Vigo. All we know is that he's not a Survivor any more. He could still be in the Fog or he could not. He could have even become a part of the Entity. Anything's possible.
thought i did that. i understood what you said i just cant string together a sentence that would make sense using what you said. i think i know what you meant but i struggle to understand things sometimes for some reason.
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@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
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@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
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Plot twist trapper was once survivor@XxAtomicAlfiexX
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.0 -
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
Grabbing people takes effort on the Entity's behalf. She is, after all, punching holes in the universe.
EDIT: Also, that bit about Survivors becoming Killers was apparently changed or just a rumor.0 -
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
That was an early theory that changed since The Hallowed Blight expanded the Entity's lore. Survivors do not turn into Killers and the Killers have not once been Survivors. Emotionless Survivors become empty shells that get cast into the Void and the Entity carefully selects her Killers by sensing the killing potential in their human form.
A misconception that I would like to clear up:
"The Entity feeds on hope."
We now know that the Entity feeds on all sorts of strong emotions, hope is just simple to incite with its trials.And finally, the PC trailer Survivors are just early concepts of Jake, Meg and Claudette. The devs changed their looks a couple of times.
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said: if i remember correctly we dont actually know what happened to vigo and benidict and all we know is that vigo has left the entitys realm.Last I know we heard of Vigo I think was in the hallowed blight you see either vigo or Benedict collecting the serum and during the lore Benedict finds Vigos notes and "abandoned" lab but he gets attacked by a killer with a "metallic jaw" the trapper's mask spears to be wooden so it's not him before you say anything, so who is this unknown killer? But I divulge in the end Benedict goes on the hunt for vigo hopped up on entity juice, and this is where we get to the last page of the hallowed blight lore, "it's here, it has found me, the Entity has come for me".
I agree we don't know where they are but we do know
A. Vigo and Benedict both injected themselves with the serum,
B. It wasn't long after taking the serum that the entity came for benedict. What happened after that is anyone's guess but if the entity came for Benedict then it would have for vigo too. I think they are still in the enity's realm just moved from place to place and time to time to keep them from out doing the entity again, to show them this is his realm.Probably a poor choice of words on the Author's end (I believe it was confirmed Benedict was the one writing in the journals, but I'm not so sure), but in the Event Cinematics it is revealed the killer who attacked WAS the Trapper (since we later see the Trapper, well, trapped. He is the only killer shown in the cinematic). Alternatively the metallic jaw could have been in reference to The Trapper's Bear Traps.
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@Shad03 said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said: if i remember correctly we dont actually know what happened to vigo and benidict and all we know is that vigo has left the entitys realm.Last I know we heard of Vigo I think was in the hallowed blight you see either vigo or Benedict collecting the serum and during the lore Benedict finds Vigos notes and "abandoned" lab but he gets attacked by a killer with a "metallic jaw" the trapper's mask spears to be wooden so it's not him before you say anything, so who is this unknown killer? But I divulge in the end Benedict goes on the hunt for vigo hopped up on entity juice, and this is where we get to the last page of the hallowed blight lore, "it's here, it has found me, the Entity has come for me".
I agree we don't know where they are but we do know
A. Vigo and Benedict both injected themselves with the serum,
B. It wasn't long after taking the serum that the entity came for benedict. What happened after that is anyone's guess but if the entity came for Benedict then it would have for vigo too. I think they are still in the enity's realm just moved from place to place and time to time to keep them from out doing the entity again, to show them this is his realm.Probably a poor choice of words on the Author's end (I believe it was confirmed Benedict was the one writing in the journals, but I'm not so sure), but in the Event Cinematics it is revealed the killer who attacked WAS the Trapper (since we later see the Trapper, well, trapped. He is the only killer shown in the cinematic). Alternatively the metallic jaw could have been in reference to The Trapper's Bear Traps.
if it was benidict writing those pages he would have said so. he left his journal so he could focus on surviving but he later left a note:
Death is not death. In this place, life is fleeting. To whomever might find this lore, I can but only provide you with one advice: always move forward. This is what keeps me alive, and have so for a while. If I were to advise further, I would suggest you harvest every forsaken location for anything that might thwart the horrors that lurk within. And keep an eye on the gates. If they open, you must flee. I hope my scribbles have not been in vain. If you find this lore, make use of it and pass it on. If you find me, bury my body.
~ Benedict Baker's Journal, Nov. 1896if it was benidict he would be explaining things he found out while he was gone and giving a few tips to who ever found the entries. its been a while since i have read them but i dont think i was benidict. i will re-read the entries so sorry if i seem like an idiot. also benidict seems much more cautious then who ever wrote the blight entries.
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@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
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@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much ######### lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
Lel. I can do you one better.
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@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
Lel. I can do you one better.
thanks.
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
Lel. I can do you one better.
thanks.
@Shad03
if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).0 -
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
Lel. I can do you one better.
thanks.
if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).
He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.
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@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
Lel. I can do you one better.
thanks.
if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).
He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.
ok. but why was he gifted buy the entity if he needed to by tortured?
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
Lel. I can do you one better.
thanks.
if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).
He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.
ok. but why was he gifted buy the entity if he needed to by tortured?
He needed a way to hunt down the survivors and I guess the Entity gave him the bell. I guess with the express instructions of, "Use this and hunt down your prey. Spare no one or pain will be brought to you."
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@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
Lel. I can do you one better.
thanks.
if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).
He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.
ok. but why was he gifted buy the entity if he needed to by tortured?
He needed a way to hunt down the survivors and I guess the Entity gave him the bell. I guess with the express instructions of, "Use this and hunt down your prey. Spare no one or pain will be brought to you."
that makes sense. what about the huntress?
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I'd imagine she wouldn't have a problem with killing, she started killing humans way before she ended up in the Fog.
(The quote thing was getting too long. In fact this chat has been going on too long considering what the OP is XD, I might make a discussion for my reasons on why killers do what they do here. It would probably include my own headcanons if I could make it make sense.)
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@Shad03
fair enough. you make that discussion. i forgot that the huntress killed for sport so i thought she only killed for the little ones. also can i point out that the huntress's back story is ######### sad. and long. its painfully long.1 -
XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Shad03 said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@The_Trapper said:
@Orion said:
@The_Trapper said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
I feel there is a reason the entity is taking killers and survivors in the rate he is, he isn't getting the hope he needs, now currently there are 15 survivors all producing hope, this is odd because there are 2 known survivors of the last challenges, and we arent given much clue to how many more there could have been but taking a look at the universal perks they could be those of survivors in the void yet to fade or the last trial counting these perks taking in the consideration that each survivor gets 3 teachables that means other than vigo and Benedict there were 5 others so 7 survivors is low compared to our current 15, as you said it is a very old diety but why all of a sudden up your hope consumption? 17 (because vigo and benidict is still alive) survivors giving you hope that is more than double your last haul. It couldn't be because any aren't producing enough hope he could just dump them and get new survivors, So I submit that the entity can't collect hope as efficiently anymore, the Entity is dying he has reached his final millinia among us and he is trying to pull as much hope as possible to prolong and postpone his inevitable fate the void.I might be thinking stupid, but if the Entity can constantly pluck people into his universe why would he ever be starved of hope? We have all the playable survivors, the survivors mentioned in perks and the survivors from the original PC trailer. As far as I can tell, there are more survivors than we could ever count.
Because it eventually dawns on Survivors that there's no way out. They lose all emotional response as the living nightmare they're in becomes the new normal for them. At that point, they're of no use to the Entity, so She casts them into the Void.
But there will always be more people to grab right? Also I heard someone say that survivors who lose all hope sometimes become killers, a few of the playable killers had to be forced to kill before they embraced it.
on the dbd wiki's page on the entity and read the the killers section (under the subtitle killers) it says '' Many Killers do not do so willingly, although some are happy to sate their Bloodlust. Some have to be tortured over endless years to be coerced into doing what The Entity wants.''.
This is correct, how else did The Trapper get those hooks into his skin? He didn't do it on purpose, this thing wanted him to kill, and he wouldn't do it because he was still loyal to his father, so then it took matters into it's own hands.
the trapper put the hooks in himself to keep the pain going to fill him with rage. read the trappers torso description. also i think the trappers mental state decade like his fathers and he was left with only a desire to kill and please his dad and later the entity (who probably became a farther like figure for trapper).
Nope. Proof in a live stream, Devs said, and I quote:
"47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them.""The hooks are a method of control I believe. The rage would prevent him from rationalizing.
i am missing so much [BAD WORD] lore. link me to the dev steams I've heard about or something because im saying ######### that makes sense to me just for it to be invalid because the devs said so. can we just not talk about lore anymore and talk about how Darth Vader should be a licensed killer.
Lel. I can do you one better.
thanks.
if the entity hurts the killers who didnt want to kill, why does the trapper have the hooks but the wraith doesnt? out of the trapper and the wraith, the wraith seems less likely to want to kill but the trapper was tortured and forced and the wraith wasnt (from what it looks like).
He possibly was tortured in some way. Maybe mentally.
ok. but why was he gifted buy the entity if he needed to by tortured?
He needed a way to hunt down the survivors and I guess the Entity gave him the bell. I guess with the express instructions of, "Use this and hunt down your prey. Spare no one or pain will be brought to you."
that makes sense. what about the huntress?
The huntress has the mind of a child, she wasn't allowed to mentally develop therefore the entity doesnt need much to push her to kill
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
that makes sense. what about the huntress?
The huntress has the mind of a child, she wasn't allowed to mentally develop therefore the entity doesnt need much to push her to
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@TrueKn1ghtmar3
thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.1 -
Lol would you really gift her anything? JsXxAtomicAlfiexX said:@TrueKn1ghtmar3
thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.0 -
@TrueKn1ghtmar3 said:
XxAtomicAlfiexX said:thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.
Lol would you really gift her anything? Js
i would but im not the entity. the huntress does the entitys biding without question and if the entity can gift the wraith then the huntress should get gifts as well.
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3
thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.I would say that the iri heads would be her gift. It does say that it was molded by the fog itself, and that it vibrates with power.
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@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3
thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.I would say that the iri heads would be her gift. It does say that it was molded by the fog itself, and that it vibrates with power.
ok, so we're counting the hatchet heads as her gift.
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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@TrueKn1ghtmar3
thats also a fair point. she hunted humans for sport as well. but why hasnt she been gifted by the entity? unless you count the iridescent hatchet heads as a gift.I would say that the iri heads would be her gift. It does say that it was molded by the fog itself, and that it vibrates with power.
ok, so we're counting the hatchet heads as her gift.
Well, some of the hatchets, the ones like begrimed or rusty head are probably hers. The iri head would be the only gift from The Entity.
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