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Change my view: Spies from the shadows is better than Ultimate Weapon

If you use UW survivors will run away from you as soon as they scream which means you could spend 30s catching up to them especially with Weskers huge terror radius. With Spies though 99% of survivors won't realise you have it and will try to stealth instead of run giving you plenty of time to catch them. Plus you don't have to open a locker to use it.

Comments

  • Mazoobi
    Mazoobi Member Posts: 1,565
    edited December 2023

    With spies, you're relying on crow spawn locations which is already lackluster since a good portion of them are in the outskirts. This point alone makes UW superior.

    UW can potentially (and usually) reveal the entire team, while you're probably ONLY going to get one reveal from spies at a time.

    UW gives survivors the blindness effect.

    UW's scream can interrupt actions.

  • TheArbiter
    TheArbiter Member Posts: 2,615
    edited December 2023

    Ultimate Weapon guarantees a 4k if the killer slugs one of the last two people and the survivor doesnt have calm spirit

  • Zeidoktor
    Zeidoktor Member Posts: 2,065

    Funny thing is both of these perks are countered by Calm Spirit.

  • TeleportingTurkey
    TeleportingTurkey Member Posts: 589

    the main reason why this perk shouldn't get axed.

    it's incredible to not have to slug till bleedout or hope survivors loses rigged 50/50 game (guess in whose favour, no, not killer's) of hatch&exit gates.

    when devs finally address the issue of survivors getting a handout for existing and ratting, ultimate weapon can go

  • BlightedDolphin
    BlightedDolphin Member Posts: 1,875

    Shhh! Don’t tell everyone how good Spies is! Keep it a secret otherwise survivors will become aware of it!

  • Evan_
    Evan_ Member Posts: 547

    Also note that spies have a fixed 36m range, therefore it works on killers with smaller or no terror radius, or stealth perks.

    On the other hand, Ultimate Weapon also inflicts a Blind with a notable 30s length.

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 2,951

    Nah. In addition to all the reasons listed already, you as the killer have a lot of control with regard to when UW gets triggered, and can use it strategically. With Spies, it's a lot more passive, and won't detect survs sneaking around.

  • Xernoton
    Xernoton Member Posts: 5,824

    Spies isn't as quite as bad as some think it is but UW is still better. On top of UW's superior information (shows survivor location as opposed to crow near survivor location) it also applies blindness and counters WoO.