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If both Survivors and Killer play perfectly, who wins?

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  • mizark3
    mizark3 Member Posts: 2,253

    The funny thing is the 'perfect play' may be the worst play, as seen by abusing the Bots AI. The Bots know the exact pixel to make a safe Medium vault at, but you can force them to triple vault and burn the entity blocker by doing so. A human must take a risk of vaulting/not vaulting against the other human making the play to swing/hold-W/double-back. In such '50-50s' both the Survivor and the Killer can't both make the optimal play, so we would have to guess, or use guaranteed circumstances.

    The problem here is also that the 'perfect play' on Survivor side can include stealth and pre-running along with perfect comms. Perfect play on Killer can result in no options for Survivors and going down instantly. With 'no-option' potential Killers like Nurse/Blight/Spirit or certain maps/usages of Knight/Artist/Dredge (among more), Killer would win. With 'fair' Killers aka where counterplay always exists, then Survivors win. Dredge is an example of where sometimes a perfect Killer play gets a hit, but other times counterplay exists for Survivor (between leave loop/play loop).

    The problem with this concept though is no one consistently plays perfectly. No one has memorized every possible layout of gens/loops. Some Killers have powers where a power misuse has little to no downside (Blight/Oni), and some Killers are better at capitalizing on Survivor mistakes (Oni/Trapper/Hag/Ghosty snowballs). When Survivors aren't making mistakes, some of those setups won't pay off as well. When Survivors are making mistakes, you might have an easier time than a Killer who isn't punished for their own mistakes as harshly.

  • Dionysusdog
    Dionysusdog Member Posts: 154

    Peak play depends on the killer and map. I would say 2k but a peak play SWF on garden of joy will run over a D tier killer pretty easily. While a peak play nurse will 3-4k on most maps even against peak survivors. Basically B tier killer on a balanced map should get at least 1-2 kills while A and S tier would got 2-4 based on how peak the survivors are. If you are talking team eternal survivors at absolute peak then short of momo or coconut they are gonna lose 1 survivor at most. So depends on map/killer tier/how peak the survivors and killer play.

  • North85
    North85 Member Posts: 111

    Is the killer Nurse/Blight? 2K, maybe. Not Nurse/Blight? 4E. Don't @ me. My SWF squad eats Blights for breakfast.