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Do you want to see players have fun against a Nurse?
Look no further than this.
I was lucky enough to see it live, with all the salt and the rants in the chat.
I'm glad Vulpixia has put the video on Youtube.
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I have plenty of fun against Nurse, as long as it isn't an invincible god-tier Nurse.
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Nurse is the definition of a killer that’s only fun to play against when the person is bad or mid level
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Bad Nurses are boring because it's the most easy DbD matches ever. And God Nurses are also so boring because they are not giving you even chance to play a game. Nurse is problematic and hopefully one day BHVR will rework her power.
So just because Vulpixia is enjoying her, that won't change the fact most of community hate this killer. She is very much one of the most hated killers ever.
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The problem I have with this is that even if you learn how to run a Nurse, your entire team needs to be able to do that to stand a chance of winning the game. It doesn't matter if you can last in chase if your team falls in three seconds. You can't win alone, unfortunately.
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I swear man, the more I learn about this game the more I enjoy it.
It's annoying sometimes, but if you just check your ego and expectations at the door, accept you aren't the best and will lose and lose badly from time to time... if you do your best and treat every loss as a "it was bound to happen at some point" and just move on... you can really have a lot of fun and have very little actually get to you.
DBD feels like an unreachable skill ceiling... like chess. I'm not even mad if I get rolled by a Nurse, or glashlight saved 3 times by the same player who then loops me for 3 gens.... just means I've still got a loooong way to go before I'm truly bored of this game...
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You haven't watched the video ...
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This video is a whole pile of nothing, its making argument about how difficult nurse is to pick up rather than anything else.
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Nurse is weird because, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, she was added to specifically counter infinites, back when infinites were a thing. She's basically a killer who's built around the foundation of "you're not supposed to be able to loop her." Now, though, infinites aren't a thing anymore, except by accident, but Nurse is still the same. I feel like the only real solution is that she just gets a rework someday.
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No matter how much you learn, it all depends how good the Nurse player is. You can certainly learn how to try and mindgame/juke decent Nurses but when you're put against a really good one, none of that is gonna work, you're just gonna lose.
Couple that with the fact that solo queue means it's complete RNG how good your teammates are against Nurse and it's just not realistic to expect most teams to have any chance against her.
She needs nerfs so that there's actual things you can do against her.
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It is not that Nurse was created for the sole purpose of countering infinites, she is a killer that was never meant to adhere to the regular looping gameplay. As you've said, she is a killer that you cannot loop.
But Nurse happened to be released during the very early days, and survivors were far stronger back then. Now they aren't that strong anymore (some of their advantages had to be removed, others didn't but got removed anyway), and some players believe that Nurse should have been changed, just like those aspects from the survivor side.
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Thanks for the clarification. It seems like Nurse ultimately is a relic of a bygone era of DBD that hasn't been updated to fit with the times, and this makes her overpowered, as opposed to underpowered relics of the past like Myers.
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No problem.
Though I'd say the issue with Nurse isn't just because she is a "relic". Many good things in the game are. Even some players are.
I think the one issue everyone has with Nurse is the fact that, once a certain level has been reached, there isn't anything you can do against her. That was already true all the way back then, and it still is true.
And I don't think anyone truly knows how to fix it. Give her a rework and soon enough you'll see her placing puddles of blood on the ground or overheating. Leave her alone and some complaints will never cease.
It is a complicated matter.
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I agree. I didn't necessarily mean relic as an insult to her. Honestly, it sometimes feels like the "relics" like Tinkerer, Devour Hope, and Discordance work better than some of the new stuff! Same goes for characters like Huntress and Spirit.
On the rework front, it seems like, no matter what they do, Nurse as she is will always be Queen Killer because she's the only one that gets to completely ignore basic game mechanics. But then again, a rework would probably leave her with some kind of overheat mechanic. If nothing else, I'm interested to see what happens with the Twins rework. The Billy rework gives be some hope for the future.
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Imagine MMR was actually perfectly accurate, and everyone enjoyed their Nurse matches, both as and against her🥹
So sad always seeing my best girl getting spoken against😔
Just wish everyone had the same fun experiences I have facing her and playing her, and would accept her as the ultimate DBD Killing machine that she is, allowing her to thrive in her element🥰
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I actually enjoy going against Nurse. Not because I win, I mostly lose. But because chase is so different to usual and I enjoy variety. I like trying to mindgame her. How you go against her can be dependent on maps though. I know alot of folk want less clutter but breaking line of sight is important against a Nurse and with so many dead zones or open areas, that can be hard.
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Hillbilly being fixed was a step in the right direction, that is for sure. Hopefully they will keep it up.
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Exactly, although I wouldn't necessarily classify it as a Nurse problem. She just magnifies the problem with skill gaps in lobbies. I've spent hours in 1v1s against Nurse, so I know how to run her. If I face a good Nurse, they usually ignore me for the rest of the game after the first chase and farm everyone else.
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The plenty of fun playing against bad Nurse is the illusion that you think you're a god
Nurse missed a blink, swing.
Woooo Im so good !!!
Against good Nurse, you get hit if drop a pallet, you get hit if not drop a pallet, you get hit if vault a window, you get get if not vault a window, you get hit if W, you get hit if double back.
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I don't think so, my friend.
The plenty of fun playing against Nurse is that sweet spot where the Nurse isn't an invincible god-tier player, but she is still good enough to provide a challenge.
Those are the best.
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Ok, first i want to adress this :
Nurse is overrated :
-There isn't that much of god nurses.
-God blights and god huntresses are also terrifying.
-Nurse's reputation gives her the psycholgical advantage in games.
-She doesn't have counterplay.
-you mostly know what to expect, and can't be surprised much, there are like 5 addons commonly played.( how do you know that if you don't try ?)
-she isn't played that much by most ppl.(which means that most ppl don't have the counterplay nor the timings ...)
Nurse is definitely strong :
-she has good mobility.
-she has much more lethality in her power than most killers and can roll you at any moment, similar to oni(with power) at all times.
-she is extremely forgiving.
Now i'll get to the point, nurse has changed very much ...
Nurse now is like paper compared to what she was at the begining and survivors has had a similar change.
Nurse is quite hard to balance but, and hear me out, i think adding 1 second of recharge by token would be a nerf and would, in my mind at least reduce the problematics aspect of the Nurse it would reduce the following points :
-Mobility
-Forgiveness
-explosivity
I even think it might break the balance of the killer ... idk ...
pls tell me what you think ...
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nurse is boring if the player is bad and shes also boring solo but she becomes one of the best to vs in a good 4 man when she is good aswell
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This, this right here
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