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I really hope BHVR won't nuke Freddy as how they nuked Sadako

MikaelaWantsYourBoon
MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564
edited January 2024 in Feedback and Suggestions

I am really scared about potential Freddy changes after saw what BHVR did to Sadako...

Playing Sadako is really so bad atm. Her counterplay is so easy, like she does not even feel like threat for survivors.

What was issue with old Sadako?

  • She got lullaby which was made her worst stealth killer in game.
  • No chase power.
  • TV cooldowns was so bad.
  • Building stacks on survivors was so hard and there was not any viable way to play her. Except slugging ofcourse, she was slugging monster.
  • Holding tapes was dangerous for survivors, so she got a bit slowdown from that but that's all.
  • And TV auras was not avalaible for survivors which forced survivors look for them.

Now what is issue with new Sadako?

  • She is still worst stealth killer, this did not change.
  • She still has no chase power, this did not change as well.
  • Building stacks is still hard since she can build stacks on survivors for in limited range.
  • TV cooldowns are better but they put cooldown into her power which means you won't want to teleport as much as you want.
  • TV auras revealed to survivors, so all survivor need to do take tape and then sit on the gen. Holding tape has zero risk. Why they should not? Old Sadako forced survivor to use tape as fast as they can because it builded stacks passively. But new Sadako? Just take tape and be sure you are not next to active TV. You won't get stacks, you are super safe.
  • Her irri add-on is so bad, this add-on is already taking one power from her ( building stacks ) why TV cooldowns even longer when survivor closed them. Smart teams will punish you so bad if you use this add-on.
  • Also if survivor got 5 stacks, it was really their fault. Sadako's counterplay was never that easy. But now hooking them will only lock 2 stacks. Do you know what is this means? Hooking them twice is means 4 stacks locked but at this point who cares? Next time i get them down , they are dead on hook. Who cares if mori them or hook them. You want to make this mechanic work like Pyramid Head's but PH has chase power, Sadako has not. Her all pressure comes from stacks, why you are making this even more survivor friendly? Building them is already harder with new Sadako. So it's just smarter to tunnel survivors off hook because if you tunnel them, they can't remove stacks.
  • Tape actions are so fast. So let's say somehow you build full stacks on one survivor. They will take one hit and when you are in cooldown, they will remove stacks on your face. How this is fair? Even if you have STBFL with full stacks, you can't stop survivor.
  • It's really so funny but slugging is only viable way to play her right now. With Sadako , you can travel map so fast. So all you need to use Sloppy + Knock Out and then slug survivors. How we back to slugging Sadako after all of those changes?

This is just rant because i am really so upset to lose one of the my fav killers. And i have no faith in BHVR to make her viable. With some small buffs, PTB Sadako would make really fun and fair killer. But now, she is terrible weak. If they are not giving us PTB Sadako, i doubt minor changes will make her viable. She is just toy for survivors right now.

It's really upsetting because they somehow buffed Blight ( S tier killer ) after PTB and nerfed mid-tier killer.

Comments

  • radiantHero23
    radiantHero23 Member Posts: 5,055

    I hate to repeat myself. But this could have been prevented easily.

    She was good on Ptb. If they just pushed her live with no changes whatsoever, she would have been flawed but acceptable. The nerfs just make her unsalvagable. I played 6 games yesterday. I won 2 of them. It was by old build with ring drawing and videotape copy.

    If the survivor team has any awareness, her power just crumbles. It's so sad to see.

    I really tried to make her work but her power limit with all these nerfs is incredibly low. I can't blame anyone for not wanting to play her. She's just too weak. That's what it boils down to.

    She's still very oppressive on Gideon meat plant though because the map is horribly designed (another aspect I wrote about on the Ptb feedback). I guess if you want to win at all costs, send yourself there.

    One thing that has definitely returned from old Sadako. She's a complete sweat fest if you want to do well against people that are aware. You have to outperform by a mile to have basic results.

    Please BHVR give her the adjustments that she needs.

    No cooldown

    No limit on locked in stacks

    2 second tape insertion

    No TV auras shown

    This has to happen ASAP!

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564

    All of those needed. And i will add another one.

    If survivor have tape on their hand but not using it, it should be removed after 60 seconds. On hook and on ground, timer will reset ofcourse. Holding tape should be a bit risky and that will do.

    If it is so oppressive, they can make it 90 seconds but holding tapes should come with punishment.

  • UndeddJester
    UndeddJester Member Posts: 4,971
    edited January 2024

    Honestly those 4 changes + half stacks for survivors on different elevations (similar to how AFC works) and she's pretty much there.

    Some add-on tweaks would be nice too, as some are still much more required than others, but at least at base she'd be decent regardless.

    Viable, not oppressive, and most importantly, fun for people playing her, and I'd say outside of being completely ignorant of how she works, fun to face too.

  • radiantHero23
    radiantHero23 Member Posts: 5,055

    I rotted for something else in regards to Gideon. Just delete 1 or 2 tvs on that map. It won't hurt her mobility due to the maps size.

    Otherwise: just rework this awful map. Shes not a problem. The map is.