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The sad truth about balancing meme

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  • JohnTed
    JohnTed Member Posts: 56

    Killers always want to kill all survivors to regard as win.

  • JoyfulLeader
    JoyfulLeader Member Posts: 571
    edited January 2019

    @AshleyWB said:
    But I main both killer and survivor.

    That's good, I'm just making fun of those who complain that survivor or killer is too weak or too overpowered even though it's an asymetrical game XD

  • Ajritoka
    Ajritoka Member Posts: 594
    AshleyWB said:
    But I main both killer and survivor.
    Me too... Me too.
  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    Lmao, it's funny xD killers when see a swf dodge.. and if they got rekt by a solo/swf survivor's they just come and cry to the forum.. And survivors just play in swf with crutche's things..

  • TigerKirby215
    TigerKirby215 Member Posts: 604

    I mean that's with all games and communities. That being said there's also a certain amount of mutual respect that one has to give to improve the game. I mean, I ######### hate Freddy and Leatherface but I still don't want them to be trash.

  • Theluckyboi
    Theluckyboi Member Posts: 1,113

    @Arroz said:

    Lmao, it's funny xD killers when see a swf dodge.. and if they got rekt by a solo/swf survivor's they just come and cry to the forum.. And survivors just play in swf with crutche's things..

    for u

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @Theluckyboi said:

    @Arroz said:

    Lmao, it's funny xD killers when see a swf dodge.. and if they got rekt by a solo/swf survivor's they just come and cry to the forum.. And survivors just play in swf with crutche's things..

    for u

    for u

  • weirdkid5
    weirdkid5 Member Posts: 2,144
    Except I'm a Survivor and wish this side was nerfed into the dirt 
  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    @JoyfulLeader said:

    @AshleyWB said:
    But I main both killer and survivor.

    That's good, I'm just making fun of those who complain that survivor or killer is too weak or too overpowered even though it's an asymetrical game XD

    When a game is asymmetrical, it still has to be balanced. Asymmetrical means that 1 surv is weaker than 1 killer. Balanced means that 4 survivors should be as powerful as 1 killer.

    A lot of people mix that up and believe this game can't be balanced since it's asymmetrical.

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    When you laugh at people expressing their concerns with balance then that's very ignorant.

    No no that's ignorant.
  • Paddy4583
    Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    These types of games are the hardest to achieve balance in while also giving choises and some variety.
    To be fair I don’t think they have done all that bad, but 100% of people aren’t gonna be happy, because balance means taking from one and giving to the other, or at least the illusion of that, I’d say they achieve this pretty well considering the amount of crying over said illusion of balance
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  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,022

    @NoShinyPony said:

    @JoyfulLeader said:

    @AshleyWB said:
    But I main both killer and survivor.

    That's good, I'm just making fun of those who complain that survivor or killer is too weak or too overpowered even though it's an asymetrical game XD

    When a game is asymmetrical, it still has to be balanced. Asymmetrical means that 1 surv is weaker than 1 killer. Balanced means that 4 survivors should be as powerful as 1 killer.

    A lot of people mix that up and believe this game can't be balanced since it's asymmetrical.

    asymmetrical games mean that one side has a different objective than the other...

  • AlwaysInAGoodShape
    AlwaysInAGoodShape Member Posts: 1,301
    edited January 2019

    The meme is funny, but it's untrue.

    What people really want is a very deep and sophisticated mastery cap, meaning that if they get owned, they know that there is a route to learning and to overcome that frustration.

    When they know they can no longer overcome certain frustrations and challenges, that is typically where the valid complaining starts.
    (excluding complaining from youngsters, because it's second nature to them.)

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    @TRGraybles said:

    @NoShinyPony said:
    When a game is asymmetrical, it still has to be balanced. Asymmetrical means that 1 surv is weaker than 1 killer. Balanced means that 4 survivors should be as powerful as 1 killer.

    A lot of people mix that up and believe this game can't be balanced since it's asymmetrical.

    So you are saying that the killer is stronger then 4 survivors that know how to team-play? The key word here is "team-play" if you want to solo the entire operation and get owned it's your mistake not the killers'.

    What has that to do with what I wrote?

    Ideally, the killer would be as powerful as 4 survivors but that's not the current state of the game.

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  • JoyfulLeader
    JoyfulLeader Member Posts: 571
    edited January 2019

    @AshleyWB said:
    When you laugh at people expressing their concerns with balance then that's very ignorant.

    No no that's ignorant.

    I don't think you really get it

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    No that's ignorant
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @NoShinyPony said:

    @JoyfulLeader said:

    @AshleyWB said:
    But I main both killer and survivor.

    That's good, I'm just making fun of those who complain that survivor or killer is too weak or too overpowered even though it's an asymetrical game XD

    When a game is asymmetrical, it still has to be balanced. Asymmetrical means that 1 surv is weaker than 1 killer. Balanced means that 4 survivors should be as powerful as 1 killer.

    A lot of people mix that up and believe this game can't be balanced since it's asymmetrical.

    asymmetrical games mean that one side has a different objective than the other...

    No, asymetrical actually means that the different opponents team have different size. i.e. 1vs4
    In overwatch one team has to push the payload while the other has to defend it, yet its not assymetrical

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,022

    @Master said:

    @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @NoShinyPony said:

    @JoyfulLeader said:

    @AshleyWB said:
    But I main both killer and survivor.

    That's good, I'm just making fun of those who complain that survivor or killer is too weak or too overpowered even though it's an asymetrical game XD

    When a game is asymmetrical, it still has to be balanced. Asymmetrical means that 1 surv is weaker than 1 killer. Balanced means that 4 survivors should be as powerful as 1 killer.

    A lot of people mix that up and believe this game can't be balanced since it's asymmetrical.

    asymmetrical games mean that one side has a different objective than the other...

    No, asymetrical actually means that the different opponents team have different size. i.e. 1vs4
    In overwatch one team has to push the payload while the other has to defend it, yet its not assymetrical

    oh, oops, I had a feeling

  • JoannaVO
    JoannaVO Member Posts: 750
    People who only play one side should stay out of the balance discussion anyway. Screw their BS opinions. 
  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    Assymetic or however you spell it seem like it means not symmetrical which is true in the fact that dbd is 4v1. Balance is a completely different aspect and doesn't relate to these types of games in particular.
  • I play both sides, it's quite apparent that generally and across the spectrum of average play, the game is definitely sided towards survivors. Between SWF and perks/add-ons that literally give survivors another chance to survive v 1 killer can instantly kill you (once a timely precondition is met) kinda proves it.
  • MrsPiggyIsSoSneaky
    MrsPiggyIsSoSneaky Member Posts: 571
    In almost any asymmetrical games that are out there, they will always have one problem, and that's the community, asking for things that make the game unbalanced, why?

    You have people who either equally play one side and then the other side (I.e in this case, survivor and killer) those people are the ones who can see the perspective on both sides and see problems.

    Then you have players who tend to play more on one side than the other (I.e they play survivor more or killer more) they kind of see the perspectives on both side but most of the time they only care about their side and their problems on the side they play the most.

    Then you have players who solely main one side (I.e either survivor or killer) these are the players that only care about their issue, their problems, and only see the perspectives on their side and want things that give them an advantage.

    The problem here is, if devs take any ideas from players who solely play on one side and not the other, that could cause disruption and unbalancing in the game, as well with the community.
  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    As funny as it is, it's not accurate. A lot of people simply don't play both sides enough to have an actual understanding of the games balance. It's a lack of experience, not wanting their side stronger.

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Arroz said:

    @Theluckyboi said:

    @Arroz said:

    Lmao, it's funny xD killers when see a swf dodge.. and if they got rekt by a solo/swf survivor's they just come and cry to the forum.. And survivors just play in swf with crutche's things..

    for u

    for u

    Chrome is a really nice browser. 
  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,022

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Arroz said:

    @Theluckyboi said:

    @Arroz said:

    @JoyfulLeader said:

    Lmao, it's funny xD killers when see a swf dodge.. and if they got rekt by a solo/swf survivor's they just come and cry to the forum.. And survivors just play in swf with crutche's things..

    for u

    for u

    Chrome is a really nice browser. 

    I agree!

  • malloymk
    malloymk Member Posts: 1,555
    Honestly, I just want pallets to actually work. 
  • JoyfulLeader
    JoyfulLeader Member Posts: 571

    @malloymk said:
    Honestly, I just want pallets to actually work. 

    I think hitboxes need more of a fixing, especially hatchet hitboxes

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @JoyfulLeader said:

    @malloymk said:
    Honestly, I just want pallets to actually work. 

    I think hitboxes need more of a fixing, especially hatchet hitboxes

    Dont worry, they are gonna get fixed when dedicated servers come out