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You want shorter killer queues in 2v8? Remove Oni/Legion
Why is it that every time we get this event we have killer mains crying about their queue times but then bending over backwards to defend blatantly busted things in this game mode for killers like Legion/Oni. Of course nobody wants to play survivor when this combo exists, it makes the experience absolutely miserable.
Oni should have gotten nerfs, not buffs in this mode. Meanwhile they nerf ghostface lol.
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Even before that, the queue was already long from the first interaction. It has nothing to do with a survivor crying about such a killer.
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Both Oni and Legion should be removed and rethought before reintroducing them, this could only get worse by adding Twins next. It amazes me how people always try to abuse everything, practically every match is this combination of these killers and when you find a chad playing Trapper the gens fly so fast you are again playing Oni and Legion before you realized.
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I agree, but you could have made the point with the the “us vs them” comments. Honestly I haven’t seen too many “killer mains” defending this.
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Haven't killer queues in 2v8 always been horrible?
I'm still pretty sure it's because having a friend to run killer with is more appealing, not because something is 'broken'. Not that it doesn't contribute, but I don't think it's the root cause.8 -
That's completely true. They absurdly nerfed Ghost Face xD … and buffed Oni/Legion (broken Buffs in 8vs2) and... Billy/Blight were already Tier S and it can be seen in every game.
Nerf the Killers and buff the appropriate Killers and motivate the bloodpoints to play survi for 500%, which on my server I have them at 200% and the Killer queues exceed 10 minutes.
My opinion:
Big Nerf: Oni/Legion/Billy
Nerf: Blight/Nurse
Buff: Deathslinger/Trapper
Big Buff: Ghost Face-1 -
People having fun=bad
As much as I'd love to dive more into the nitty gritty of the 2v8 killer meta, this mode is bringing in people who would normally never play the killer role.
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Yeah, they're acting like Legion and Oni are the reason queue times are so bad like there weren't 2 2v8 iterations prior to even 1 of them being added where queue times were just as bad, maybe even worse. Although I feel like this argument has happened every time just change the killers.
2v8 Version 1: "Queue times are so bad? Stop playing Huntress and Wraith no one wants to face them!"
2v8 Version 2: "Queue times are so bad? Stop playing Blight and Spirit no one wants to face them!"
2v8 Version 3: "Queue times are so bad? Stop playing Legion and Wesker no one wants to face them!"
2v8 Version 4: "Queue times are so bad? Stop playing Legion and Oni no one wants to face them!"
At what point will survivors realize that maybe it's not the killer selection that's the problem, but their attitude? I've said it before and I'll say it again, dbd although it does have a balance problem, more so has a survivor pickiness problem. Survivors actually believe that they get to pick and choose who they play against and if there's a higher chance, like in 2v8, that they'll get a killer or killer combo they don't want, they'll leave or just not queue up. I know this is hard for survivors to hear but… YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE WHO YOU FACE. GROW UP. There's more pressing issues with the game then "Wah it's an Oni."
Also besides the first iteration where there were literally 5 options to play, these combos are not as common as they make them out to be. I can guarantee most of the people complaining about it (considering how fast the complaining started) just went "What's the worst combo I can think of for this version of 2v8" and then just started complaining. I have yet to face a Legion and Oni combo as survivor and as killer, despite exclusively playing Oni, have never seen a Legion.
Btw adding this in because someone is going to see this comment and start screaming "OnI aNd LeGiOn Is EvErY oThEr GaMe FoR mE aNd It'S bAd. HoW dArE yOu SaY iT's NoT eVeRy blah blah blah" That is my personal experience, if you are actually facing them that often and I'm some how just getting lucky, I'm sorry. Although I will forever stand by my "survivor's are picky about who they face" comment.
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Oni and legion is being complained about now? Isn't there infinitely WORSE combos to go against? Like I don't know, blight and nurse or billy and nurse.
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This isn't necessarily just an Oni and Legion issue, though that combo IS horrifically unfair and both Killers will need adjusting in future 2v8s. This has ALWAYS been an issue. That's because Killer in 2v8 is the draw, not Survivor side, Survivor side isn't as fun in 2v8 and never will be. This is why they keep adding stuff like herbs and smoke bombs to the mode, so Survivors have more to do.
You're never getting rid of this issue in 2v8 until we have a Play While You Wait option and you will never have a fun 2v8 for both sides if one side becomes OP strong across the board. Sorry…
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- Billy's fine.
- Legion and Oni together are an issue but separate just need some tweaks, Oni moreso than Legion. It IS an issue and does need fixing.
- Blight is fine, Nurse is fine, both together is a little problematic but not that horrible.
- Deathslinger could use a buff.
- Trapper's fine.
- Ghostface has enough of a buff and is fine, he should be given some small Haste in Shroud in 1v4 actually. It's what he needs, just give it to him.
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