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Ghostface in 2v8

jamally093
jamally093 Member Posts: 1,977

He overall sucks. No I won't point fingers at my teammates saying why can't you play him better because I know their doing their best but well in 1v4 you have four pairs of eyes looking for you plus a lot of maps that he can work on. While in 2v8 well you have 8 eyes looking at you and a good amount of open maps I think RPD is the one where you have a better chance of staying hidden. He stalks someone but then have a shorter exposed duration to hit them plus a lot of 2v8 survivors stay close together so you have a lot of people looking at you. Plus not much pressure either while cool having a killer that can expose survivors is interesting just not much pressure can be done when set killer gets the short end of the stick being a little higher then Trapper since well he just got screwed over. Nemesis and Wesker can infect people and Wesker can cover ground while Nemesis's zombies can act as not good but decent information bots. You have Nurse which when in the right hands can destory a few people, Blight for that distance plus a few hits and well Legion...we don't talk about the annoyance they are. But Ghostface just feels dull I get they want people to try him out but I mean you kinda need to test him before you introduce him to the public I mean you probably did but maybe one match you gotta get those couple of matches in to see how they fully work. Overall Ghostface as far as I can tell is not fun to play you might get a cage or two but well you ain't getting much. Will he be updated in the next 2v8 when they introduce Doctor and Clown? Eh probably not.

Comments

  • LockerLurk
    LockerLurk Member Posts: 1,683

    I'm sorry you struggle with this Killer or that you normally play at a super high level and apparently only get super strong SWFs he truly can't handle, friend. Most people I know have not had this issue. Hell I've kept up with hooks when paired both with Wesker and Blight as him, so it can't be that he's unable to keep up…

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  • jamally093
    jamally093 Member Posts: 1,977

    I think it just has to do with a lot of SWF and survivors huddled together since in 1v4 you have everyone splitting up while in 2v8 people stay close together since gens can go flying.

  • LockerLurk
    LockerLurk Member Posts: 1,683

    That's a factor yes, but it also makes people a LOT easier to stalk, find, and ambush on average, all of which aids this Killer. Paired with the right class or Killer partner it can be brutal for Survivors; paired with the wrong class or Killer - or worse yet in soloQ Killer - and it's brutal for Ghostface. It can go either way.

    He does have synergy and does work fine in the mode, but it sucks if the other Killer is not good, and the fact there's the Coldwind maps (his worst maps) in this mode doesn't help.

  • turksmall236
    turksmall236 Member Posts: 296

    Buff ghostface, nerf Oni. I'm so tired of Oni, I haven't played 2v8 in 4 days just because of Oni

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,668

    That’s exactly why he’s not good in 2v8. Why should I pick a character that can struggle with certain teammates and struggle with certain maps, when I could just pick someone like Blight, that is always good with everything?

    There is a big risk with picking a character with lower mobility (Ghostface is still lower mobility, even with Fearmonger), because if your teammate is also lower mobility, then the killers might lose just because they don’t move fast enough to have good map pressure.

  • LockerLurk
    LockerLurk Member Posts: 1,683
    edited May 22

    It's 2v8. 2v8 is not a mode about winning. Why are you trying to dominate at 8 gens in 2v8?

    He can win just fine anyway. I posted proof of me keeping up with a Wesker AND a Billy. A Billy. I get decent Survivors that know what a loop is, know what pressure is, do gens, and actually try. Consistently. These are in my lobbies with people at my MMR level relatively, this isn't just bad Survivors here.

    Respectfully friend, maybe you just constantly play at such a high level, all you get are megaSWFs? Because against 99% of everyone I and all the players I know who tried him, he's fine. Perhaps he's not someone you play often? That would explain it if you just never really play Stealth Killers, maybe you don't know how to use him well and that's OK. Or maybe Stealth play isn't your strong suit. None of this is meant to insult you in any way by the way, I'm just spitballing for why you may be struggling to handle a Killer like this, especially if you only play Blight… if you do, maybe you just are not very good at M1 chase? Ghostface requires you to be good at M1 chase.

    But it's certainly not his kit. If he's not good, then it's because he's not good for you. Nobody else I know has issues with him in 2v8.

    Besides… why would I pick the easy mashed potato option over something that has more risk, challenge, and possibility of losing? I like my games to have challenge. I do not get challenged with Blight. I just stomp everyone and get bored. I'm kinda surprised you don't get tired of easy wins…

  • Coffeecrashing
    Coffeecrashing Member Posts: 5,668

    When I talk about whether or not a killer is good, of course I’m talking about win rate. And when you admit that other killers are “less of a challenge” and “easy wins”, you’re admitting those killers are better than Ghostface.

    I honestly don’t care if you have screenshots of winning as Ghostface. I never said his win rate is 0%. I never said higher tier killers ALWAYS do better than lower tier killers.

    And the proof that you aren’t high MMR, is the fact that you don’t care that much about winning. The whole point of MMR is to separate the try hard players that break the intended kill rate, from the more casual players. Being at high MMR means you very likely care a lot about your invisible MMR number.

    Players can be at average MMR and still be good at the game. But if you aren’t trying as hard as possible to maximize your kill rate, then you’re not breaking the intended kill rate enough to be in high MMR.

  • LockerLurk
    LockerLurk Member Posts: 1,683
    edited May 23

    And you are cherrypicking my words to make YOUR point.

    No. I mean exactly what I typed, I didn't make any "admissions" about anything and I definitely didn't say anything about Killers being bad or good. I did not once say that easy wins are a good thing, they are not. Easy wins are bad, bad, BAD game design because then a Killer has no challenge, if you can get an easy win every time where is the game? Nowhere. You're reaching for things I never said an trying to act like I said one thing but meant another. I said what I said - that those Killers are not challenging enough once mastered and can crank out free wins against the average Survivor so well, it's basically just a curbstomp. That's not good, that's bad. You are not supposed to be able to trip and fall into wins.

    Besides, who is actually out here caring about winrate in 2v8? Nobody. Your entire point is moot.