Pig Buffs That Are Needed
Reverse Bear Traps
Buff 1
- Survivors now have a 0% chance of removing the RBT on their first Jigsaw Box search.
(It sucks wasting RBts on Survivors that get their's off on their first search. This will allow RBTs to be more deadlier and will be able to stall more time.)
Buff 2
- Survivors cannot search Jigsaw Boxes until their RBT is activated.
(I never understood why they could since it doesn't make sense lore wise and gameplay wise. Again, this will reduce the amount of wasted RBTs and will counter SWF.
Buff 3 (Not needed but would help)
- Survivors will get an instant Game Over if they try to escape via the hatch with a RBT on.
Ambush
Buff 1
- Increase the speed while crouched to 95% (3.8m)
Buff 2
- Raise the camera so that Amanda can actually see over grass.
Addons
- Workshop Grease and Razor Wires need to be reworked. Instead of increasing the chance of skillchecks, they should reduce the size of them.
Note: I don't want Amanda to get all of these buffs, they are just ideas that would help her a lot.
Comments
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RBT Buff 1: Sure, I'm on board with that
RBT Buff 2: I wouldn't do this if Buff 1 is also being implemented. Either or, but not both.
RBT Buff 3: I like the idea of traps snapping on the hatch, but I think it needs to be easier to get the trap off while there's only one Survivor left to compensate.Ambush Buff 1: Sure?
Ambush Buff 2: I don't think that's necessary.Add-Ons: I think more of her add-ons need buffs/re-works than just those two. Also, I'm not sure how I feel about having them shrink skill checks since Unnerving Presence can further shrink the Success Zones (I think? Hard to tell since Huntress Lullaby apparently does not work with Jigsaw Boxes).
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Jesus Christ. These are the worst buff suggestions iv'e ever seen for a killer.
Buff 1 - The point is that it's random. I mainly get my RBT off on the last box i search
Buff 2 - That's just OP
Buff 3 - Its hard enough to just find the hatch, especially with a ticking time bomb on your ######### head.
Ambush -
Buff 1 - You might as well not be crouched. You are going the same speed as the nurse.
Buff 2 - Ig that might be alright
Addons - Ok, those are actually reasonableI play pig every now and then. and I still get easy 4k's (Im rank 6) I personally don't think she needs to be buffed.
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She can already fast teabag shes good where she is0
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Are you mad?Xycronian said:Jesus Christ. These are the worst buff suggestions iv'e ever seen for a killer.
Buff 1 - The point is that it's random. I mainly get my RBT off on the last box i search
Buff 2 - That's just OP
Buff 3 - Its hard enough to just find the hatch, especially with a ticking time bomb on your [BAD WORD] head.
Ambush -
Buff 1 - You might as well not be crouched. You are going the same speed as the nurse.
Buff 2 - Ig that might be alright
Addons - Ok, those are actually reasonableI play pig every now and then. and I still get easy 4k's (Im rank 6) I personally don't think she needs to be buffed.
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Buff 1 - The point is that it's random. I mainly get my RBT off on the last box i search
Math doesn't support that. You only have a 25% chance of having to search all four boxes each time you have a trap placed on your head.
@Xycronian said:
Buff 1 - You might as well not be crouched. You are going the same speed as the nurse.I don't think going the same speed as a non-blinking Nurse is anywhere near "may as well not be crouched."
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1 - ye
2 - no thanks
3 -nope unless you can magically search jigsaw boxes faster
4 - don't think it's that necessery
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The only change I would like to see for Pig at this point is making it so Ruleset #2 is baseline. Survivors shouldn't see the auras of traps until the RBT is active. Replace Ruleset #2 with Bag of Holding (or whatever name they like) - ultra rare- gives killer unlimited reverse bear traps. That is all Pig needs now. Most of your suggestions are pretty wild.
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@Milo said:
3 -nope unless you can magically search jigsaw boxes fasterHow would you feel about the following additional changes if they made it so people with RBTs die if they tried to jump into the hatch:
1) The time it takes to search a Jigsaw Box is reduced by 50% when there is only one Survivor remaining in the Trial.
2) When there is only one Survivor remaining in the Trial, Good Skill Checks are considered Great Skill Checks while searching a Jigsaw Box.
3) "Bag of Gears" and "Crate of Gears" add-ons receive the following nerf to the time increase in searching Jigsaw Boxes: "Slightly/Considerably increases the time it takes Survivors to search a Jigsaw Box. Does not apply if there is only one Survivor remaining in the Trial."
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@TAG said:
@Milo said:
3 -nope unless you can magically search jigsaw boxes fasterHow would you feel about the following additional changes if they made it so people with RBTs die if they tried to jump into the hatch:
1) The time it takes to search a Jigsaw Box is reduced by 50% when there is only one Survivor remaining in the Trial.
2) When there is only one Survivor remaining in the Trial, Good Skill Checks are considered Great Skill Checks while searching a Jigsaw Box.
3) "Bag of Gears" and "Crate of Gears" add-ons receive the following nerf to the time increase in searching Jigsaw Boxes: "Slightly/Considerably increases the time it takes Survivors to search a Jigsaw Box. Does not apply if there is only one Survivor remaining in the Trial."
That wouldn't be that bad i guess
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No to all this. The only one I could agree with is the add-ons for skill checks, that's a good one.
RBT is based on RNG. Keep in mind for every survivor that gets the trap on the first box you have another survivor that gets it off on the last box. But as killer you never notice this, you only notice when they do it super fast. Play survivor against a Pig (a GOOD Pig) and you will see why all your ideas for RBT buffs are bad.
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Reverse Bear TrapSalty_Pearl said:Reverse Bear Traps
Buff 1- Survivors now have a 0% chance of removing the RBT on their first Jigsaw Box search.
(It sucks wasting RBts on Survivors that get their's off on their first search. This will allow RBTs to be more deadlier and will be able to stall more time.)
Buff 2
- Survivors cannot search Jigsaw Boxes until their RBT is activated.
(I never understood why they could since it doesn't make sense lore wise and gameplay wise. Again, this will reduce the amount of wasted RBTs and will counter SWF.
Buff 3 (Not needed but would help)
- Survivors will get an instant Game Over if they try to escape via the hatch with a RBT on.
Ambush
Buff 1- Increase the speed while crouched to 95% (3.8m)
Buff 2
- Increase the duration of Ambush to 3 seconds.
Addons
* Workshop Grease and Razor Wires need to be reworked. Instead of increasing the chance of skillchecks, they should reduce the size of them.
Buff 1: Sure, a single box won't make a RBT deadly, it'll just waste more time.
Buff 2: I don't agree with this but I wouldn't be opposed to Rules Set NO.2 being baseline.
Ambush
Buff 1: Sure, I wouldn't mind a faster movement speed while crouching.
Buff 2: Not a increased dash duration but a slight dash movement increase to catch those SB survivors easier.0 - Survivors now have a 0% chance of removing the RBT on their first Jigsaw Box search.
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Honestly speaking, Amanda isn't far off, just a slight nudge could make the difference in her viability!
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I think most of what she needs are changes to her add-ons. As far as Amanda herself, I don't think she needs a whole lot to be made better.Nickenzie said:Honestly speaking, Amanda isn't far off, just a slight nudge could make the difference in her viability!
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@TAG said:
Nickenzie said:Honestly speaking, Amanda isn't far off, just a slight nudge could make the difference in her viability!
Who else agrees?
I think most of what she needs are changes to her add-ons. As far as Amanda herself, I don't think she needs a whole lot to be made better.
I agree.
And i had an idea for rework her addons.I use Last Will and Video Tape many times.
Because the other addons are useless or RNG destroy it.0 -
And what about Amanda's letter, one of the worst pink addons of the game if not the worst.
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@IamFran said:
And what about Amanda's letter, one of the worst pink addons of the game if not the worst.Oh my god I hate Amanda's Letter. It hurts her more than it helps her which is a major problem.
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Of course, that addon almost nullifies the RBTs.Salty_Pearl said:@IamFran said:
And what about Amanda's letter, one of the worst pink addons of the game if not the worst.Oh my god I hate Amanda's Letter. It hurts her more than it helps her which is a major problem.
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1 - I think rather then the first box never having a key needing 2 keys would be more fitting. Could reduce search times if needed.
2,3 nope
4 - dunno - maybe an add on to slightly increase speed?
5 - I like it makes me feel like a sneaky shark
Yeah her add ons need a rework
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I initially thought that at first. Then I realized that with needing two keys, if the Survivor guesses wrong on the first two boxes, the Pig can force the trap to go off because she can camp either of the remaining two boxes knowing that the Survivor will never be able to properly search them both. Granted, you only have a 1/6 chance of that happening, but consider that the Pig would still be able to theoretically camp the last box like she already has the means of doing. I don't think that is a good thing.Might_Oakk said:1 - I think rather then the first box never having a key needing 2 keys would be more fitting. Could reduce search times if needed.
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I agree with all except 2 and 3. Instead of 2 what I think is that we need Rule Set #2 to be baseline. 3 we don't need because the issue is the broken hatch end game system, not a problem with the traps.
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