How many gens are usually left when you lose playing survivor?

FiveNightAtDwights · June 2

I would like to know at what gen amount fellow survivor players usually lose their games because i find most matches in which I win as Killer, survivors still have 5-4 gens left, and exact same miserable experience when I play as Survivor.

Unless I go full gen repair build and i'm not chased first, it's not uncommon to see someone on death hook at 5-4 gens. This mixed with the fact it will not be possible to go next anymore makes me wonder if it's common for other people to lose majority of their games at 5-4 gens or if it's just my experience.

Would be crazy that the devs don't do anything when majority of games are decided within the first 90 seconds and survivors don't even get to interact with their objective before a teammate dies. (And preventing players from going next won't suddenly make them good at looping or make them do gens, it will just make them alt tab to watch youtube)

I think streamers who main Killer like Otz have had stats made of their matches and there seems to be an issue if majority of killer players have a consistent winrate of 90% of their matches and in all of those survivors don't even get to finish a gen.

Ryan489x · June 2

There have been zero to one gen done in more then a few matches. I’m not sure if it’s a team problem or a game problem when no one can get anything done

Aven_Fallen · June 2

This really depends how the Killer plays. And obviously which Killer is used. A Nurse can easily end the game at 5 Gens, a Clown cannot really do that (you can still win with Clown, but most likely not at 5 Gens).

And then it depends how the Killer is playing. If I would tunnel every game, I would probably end up on 4-5 Gens most of the time, since DBD is a game of snowballing. Turn the game into a 3v1 early as Killer and you won, because the Survivors will realistically not have anyone doing Gens. (Ideal scenario is one Person is on the Hook, one in Chase, one going for the Rescue. And if only 3 are left, nobody is doing Gens in this scenario)

But I usually spread Hooks, so I expect that Gens are getting done. I would say most of the time there is 1 Gen left, possibly 2, sometimes 0, when I get a 4K (or 3K with Hatch escape).

I_Cant_Loop · June 2

Usually between 0 and 5

hermitkermit · June 2

It’s really difficult to determine simply because there are so many factors that go into why gens may or may not be getting done. Everything from slowdown, to hexes, to challenges, even to location. Finding gens on a map like Hawkins can be more difficult than finding gens on Coldwind. Map traversal size is another factor, and if it’s solo (which the majority of survivor players are) there’s no way to communicate where the gen that has the most progress is located at. The hud can show the Leon’s gen is about to pop, but he gets chased off it. Ideally it would be smart to try and find that gen, stop it from regressing further and pop it yourself, but then you do have to try and find it. That takes time. A lot of survivor is about time management and resource management, and there are so many factors that can artificially boost/hinder that management.

There’s lots of reasons for teams to be wiped out before many gens get done. Personally I wouldn’t mind the mechanics of 2v8 to come into the main game when it comes to gens. Slowing them down if there aren’t enough hooks, speeding them up if there are lots of hooks. Of course this would have to be tweaked with slugging and things, but I recognize this is not a popular opinion. Instead of it being seen as a “balancing” for the match as a whole for both roles, it’s interpreted as a “punishment for doing well.”

GeneralV · June 2

I don't know, friend, it is hard to say. It really depends on how the killer plays, how the game is going, which killer it is, which map it is, and the list goes on.

Wiccamanplays · June 2

I'd say the average is around 2. Resources get depleted, easy gens have already been cleared and a lot of slowdown builds and less powerful Killers have built up momentum.

There are the occasional stomps or rolls but it's very rare that fewer than 2 gens get completed when I'm playing either side, but I'm not a great Survivor and I don't tend to play the strongest Killers with the strongest builds very often.

tjt85 · June 2

It really depends. Did the Killer bring lots of slow down? Are they tunnelling, proxy camping, playing a strong Killer they're good with, or all of the above? If these boxes are ticked, a 4-5 gen wipe out is more likely.

Did I get lucky with the matchmaking and get competent teammates or ones with no idea what they should be doing at any given moment? Is the Killer playing relatively chill? Is my team mostly Solo Q or did I join a SWF? Those things make a big difference too.

Most of the time, I would say games that are lost usually grind to a halt at 2 gens left. 2 gens remaining and everyone still alive seems to be the tipping point for whether or not the Killer gets more than one Kill (end game altruism gone wrong and end game builds notwithstanding). If I'm playing Killer more competitively, I try to make sure someone is dead at 2 gens remaining or the trial will probably end with a 1K at best.

I don't like running too many slow down perks as Killer because I find them to be a boring necessity on most Killers, so my trials tend to end at 2 gens left with a win or a 3 / 4 escape for the Survivors. So I would say Survivors losing at 2 gens remaining is the average for me (on both sides).

P.s. It's very common to see overwhelming Killer victories when you first start playing DBD. It's just way easier and quicker to grasp the basics of playing Killer than it is to learn Survivor. I think BHVR need to do a lot more to help newer Survivor players learn the basics than they currently do.

RpTheHotrod · June 2

I play solo queue. Usually 0 because survivors tend to get a bit too sure of themselves and make mistakes at the end, or do risky plays to try to save the one person on hook and it doesn't pan out, or the killer has NOED.

On the scenarios of the exit gates not being powered, Usually it's 2 gens left.

Bear in mind, I play altruistically, so I'll take a loss to ensure the person on hook gets out and wins. I have enough BP, so it's more fun for me to risk my win to ensure aomeone else does.

Yggleif · June 2

It's not something I can say for sure but I wanna say 2?

Either the gens get banged out mega quick or we stall out and don't have enough resources for the last couple gens and die.

Mikeyboi1225 · June 4

3 or less. Getting the first 2 gens done is never a difficult task. If it's not happening in your games, don't blame the killer (I know you really want to, but don't). Blame your teammates.

Gaminboi2864 · June 4

Survivor is easy if you are good at looping all the Killers. I can almost consistently loop the Killer for a full minute and then roughly 3 Generators get completed. After that, we usually get a 4 man out if we are lucky, but st the very least I make it out. Unless the bther Survivors are bad at looping, in which case it is random how many Generators we complete.