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Devs are making changes to Lobbies
After the Disaster of the TWD stream Devs are now making it so custom game lobbies either public or private will now send a request to join to the host instead of automatically joining.
I hate how it takes a disaster to get fast changes.
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It always did.
It always required a disaster to happen.
Remeber instablinds?
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Doesn't make me happy about it that's this is what it always takes to get
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Wait.
So DDos can be partially fixed by just… not allowing randoms filling spectators slot????3 -
Pretty much yeah
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I’m impressed how community was begging them for months to fix it, while they were constantly deleting so many posts about cheaters on reddit, ignored big chunk of russian speaking community which lobbies were full of this bs and we constantly were trying to catch attention, ignored their own english speaking streamers with status of fog whisperers, ignored so many videos and reports from casual players…
When it can be fixed by … simplified security measure like just forbidding randoms to join lobby.
If it turns out other types of cheaters can be restricted by simple reconsider of the safety of their back-end I’m genuinely gonna support any case like TWD stream, korean players incident again and againg every months until they’ll learn how they treat their players
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Yeah, the reason why it happened in the first place was because cheaters were able to force themselves into the lobby, grab the server IP, leave, and attack it. But with every slot already filled, they can't do that. That's what Otz tried to do during the stream, by having trusted mods from his community step in to fill the spectator slots. However, they were all kicked out …
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To be honest, I genuinely believed that they simply didn’t have enough recourses for this, but if it turns out it’s that easy for them to turn off way for DDoS, then they’ll never be able to excuse themselves. That’s worse than SM release. That’s simply another insta blind gate then
Even if it’ll be some of my favourite franchises next time or chapter will consist of new meta perks I won’t buy it. Nuh. Doubt it will bring any impact but I’m not gonna give money for people who use them in such disorganised way-2 -
When Fall Guys has had something before Dead by Daylight 🤭
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why does it always have to be the hard way
can't we just be nice and add things without the community being on fire or a giant disaster?
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literally what otz suggested 5 seconds of it happening the first time, and someone was like
No.
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I watched this stream and honestly closed after I saw how his mods were being continuously kicked out from the lobby
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That was my immediate thought too. We need to make Cote go over to Asia to play again whenever stuff like this happens.
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seeing as cheaters can bypass restrictions such as "console only" will having a bouncer guarding the lobby even help? I'm not familiar with the extent of what these ne'er-do-wells are capable of
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And what is he gonna do exactly? His entire job is just dealing with licenses, as head of partnerships at bhvr. Anything gameplay related isn't his department.
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It's not that he makes changes, it's that BHVR makes changes when they're publicly embarrassed. Him being annihilated after BHVR said insta-blinds are fine reflected poorly on BHVR. They don't like being embarrassed or having bad PR. That's why the flashlight changes, colorblind mode, and now this change to lobbies all went through. The people who were the public faces of those things didn't actually make the changes in any of those three cases (I'm pretty sure about that, anyway).
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Remember, just like with colorblind settings, it isn't incompetence.
it is laziness and arrogance.
They are clearly CAPABLE of doing something about it. It took them 48 hours. They just don't care because they know the money will keep rolling in.
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It makes me happy that people are around to remember that. So many veterans have all but quit at this point, myself included. I just hopped on yesterday after a solid month of not playing, only to discover this weird sensitivity bug that literally makes it impossible to move your camera correctly. It's like this weird false mouse acceleration that ranges from normal sens to having to use THREE arm motions to make a single turn when it used to be a snap of the wrist. Just pathetic, honestly. BHVR shouldn't be making such drastic mistakes.
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How could anyone forget that stream 😭😭
Watching the match go so wrong was both awkward and hilarious.
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Dealing with technical debt and fixing bugs doesn't bring in money. New licenses and cosmetics do.
I'm pretty sure competition is what gets a company to put resources into technical debt and bugs, but DbD doesn't have that. It's sad it takes public embarrassment to get them to take action. Especially when it ruins a one-time event like what happened here. This isn't funny like the insta-blinds incident or a let's-eat-popcorn-while-we-watch-the-PR-disaster-unfold event like the colorblind incident, this was just a huge disappointment for anyone who was interested in watching. It really sucks, and it really brings attention to how detrimental the company's priorities are, at least for us, the players.
Doing the event live was a special kind of hubris. The hackers weren't the only problem. The echoing audio was bad, and Chandler being muted for the majority of the stream was beyond unacceptable, that's a huge part of what people were tuning in for and they couldn't even hear him. You had to watch one of the participant's streams to hear him. There were no issues with the pre-recorded segment where BHVR had Chandler play their upcoming game, that bit of advertisement that people probably mentally tuned out for went smoothly.
I'd like to see real competition for DbD pop up and survive just in the hopes it would improve the health of this game. I don't know how anyone would even do that though when DbD has so many licenses and a new game would have to be really original and engaging to bring in and keep players without those licenses. A part of the sad truth there is that asymmetrical games just don't appeal to the majority of gamers, and the limited market (which DbD already has a stranglehold on) makes surviving even more difficult.
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Hot Take: I think there's a likely possibility that those changes could have already been in the works prior to those incidents happening, but got pushed up in priority because of them.
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got pushed up in priority
I mean, that's part of what we're saying here. We don't know what was going on behind the scenes. Maybe they had no plans to make those changes, maybe they were just going really slowly on making the changes. But the changes suddenly became a priority when those incidents happened, and that's the important part.
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From what i've heard from Cote and former dev McLean regarding the insta-blind incident (maybe Almo also talked about it at one point during one of his personal twitch streams long ago, but i can't quite remember), the change to insta-blind was already in the works prior to the korean match. It was just coincidental timing that the release of the change and the event Cote played was so close to one another.
Don't remember specifically what the official DBD account on twitter said, but i remember when some big shot on twitter called them out around when the Almo Clown incident was still fresh, they said something about the colorblind change was also already in the works prior.
I haven't heard anything in relation to the most recent one, however given that the Quality of Life initiative was announced way prior to the recent TWD livestream, maybe there was something there as well.
Regardless of whatever may be the truth or not about those incidents, one thing is certain. There's always gonna be people, who will believe in the popular or widespread community sentiments no matter what.
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Two is coincidence, but three starts to look like a pattern. To be fair, all any of us have is speculation and talk, because none of us were present there in the company to witness it for ourselves. Anything said by a company is PR and damage mitigation and should be taken with a grain of salt. We should neither blindly trust nor blindly mistrust everything said, but actions always speak loudest.
There was also the recent incident with Streetwise: BHVR said they had no intention to killswitch it, then suddenly they killswitched it and said they're going to re-look at their conditions for killswitching things. It became an issue when responses from official representatives came across poorly. BHVR could have nipped that in the bud when the bug was reported a week prior, but instead it festered and grew until it really started to look bad, and then BHVR changed their response to it. Again, they didn't take immediate action for the health of the game; changes occurred when their appearance was under threat.
I haven't heard anything in relation to the most recent one, however given that the Quality of Life initiative was announced way prior to the recent TWD livestream, maybe there was something there as well.
In the works or not, this fix was released three days after the stream. BHVR dismissed reports of IP leaks and DDOS attacks back in 2023. People have had to deal with it on their own in the meantime. A celebrity stream was completely ruined. Three days later there's a possible fix released, and the change is going from "auto join" to "request to join." If it's released three days later and the problem has been known about for over two years, there is no way the fix couldn't have possibly been released before the stream. The condition for making it actually a priority was a total and complete public disaster. That's what people are talking about. There's a repeated history of fast fixes after public disasters, which shows things could be fixed faster than they are and that there are changes BHVR should prioritize but doesn't. Plugging IP leaks that lead to DDOS attacks is one of those changes. People have clamored for this to be fixed, BHVR's customers and content creators have been facing DDOS attacks for years and there's been dismissal and silence, but three days after it affects BHVR there's an attempt at a fix.
It could be a coincidence, but it looks like a pattern. Especially with this most recent incident.
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Wait, so this wasn't a years long fix that they needed to rework significant parts of the game for, it was just a relatively simple step added to connecting they were able to add like a week after it caused them strife?
...I'm just glad it's fixed.
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this is all well and good for custom games so it helps streamers etc..but what about us public lot that still have to put up with cheaters ######### about?
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Coincidence or not... I say we STILL send him to Korea. The community could use a laugh.
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Can't they just spam join messages now?
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