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Is Oni still a problem in 2v8?
In the matches I’ve played against Oni so far, it seems like he has his power basically the entire game and he can curve around even the tightest corners. He still feels very overtuned to me. How is everyone else feeling about him?
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Yeah legion Oni is crazy powerful right now
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BHVR apparently still not noticing that survivors need more incentive to play 2v8, not less
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2v8 is and always has been in favor of the survivors:
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I don’t think 2v8 is necessarily killer-sided in general, I just think Oni is still pretty busted in 2v8. Legion is super unfun as well and really doesn’t belong in 2v8. Nerf Oni a bit, get rid of Legion, bring in some other new killers and I think 2v8 would be in a much better spot for survivors.
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it's gonna be a problem until we get every killer
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More in favor ≠ totally in favor. It's more balanced than 1v4 overall, which is evident by how common it is to have a toss up in terms of escapes and kills. But with tunneling being more prevalent as time goes on and the addition of Legion, we're seeing players power their way through that one.
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He's fine except when it's oni legion
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So far the only killer I'm encountering whose been slugging in 2v8.
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I don't mind him being in power the whole game. What is frustrating as a survivor for me though is how much he can turn. I'm sure better survivors can counter it but to me it feels very hard to counter compared to normal Oni.
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He's a problem in every mode since the devs made the brilliant decision to remove his only counterplay by making an exploit basekit instead of fixing it.
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I've heard some people say Oni is generally okay in 2v8, and that he's only a problem when paired with Legion. I think it's the other way around. After the nerfs, Legion is still Legion (i.e. annoying) but they aren't unfair anymore. I can't say the same for Oni, especially with how generous his turning and flicks are.
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Completely agree. It seems like he can literally just go in any direction at will with no way to counter on the survivor side. The stuff I do in normal 1v4 mode doesn’t work against this version of Oni. If anyone knows how to actually counter 2v8 Oni while he’s in his power, I’ll gladly take any advice you have!
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Far worse to go against than Legion tbh. Oni is the one killer in 2v8 who is actually OP. The worst part is that you know Behavior will completely ignore all of the valid feedback about him in 2v8. Then it'll be just as awful to play against him in the next version.
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Agreed, I wont play it again until they do this.
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Maybe they'll go the Legion way and give him some miniscule nerfs.
"Yes, we have listened to your feedback of Oni in 2v8 and we have prepared some nerfs for him.
Instead of being able to flick 360°, he can now only flick 355°. His blood fury speed has been reduced by 0.1 and his turn rate has been reduced by 5%.
As compensation, he now needs 40% less blood to fill his meter. We are sure this will make The Oni a more enjoyable killer to play against."
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Idk why they're downvoting this like its not factual information. Even the main game is survivor sided, 2v8 is even worse for killers
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Because people don't like the truth.
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Legion is my main issue with this mode, its so obnoxious. i dont want to play a mending simulator, remove legion or make an small rotatable roster of killers for each iteration, do we really need the whole 40 ish killers in this mode, if everyones is only using huntress and legion? I havent seen a single ghostface or trapper this time.
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yeah kinda but only because tunnel/camp are difficult to do, and 3 genning is impossible… you get a lot of 4 escapes-4 kills games, ironically the fun meme mode is more balanced than 1v4
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Average BHVR balance. Meanwhile Ghostface 10% haste doesn't even work.
Escapist gets sprint burst on command, guide gets gutted.
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I dont think oni is bigger problem then legion, oni alone isnt that strong but give him killer who can injure half of survivor team in one go minimaly then oni becomes much more powerfull and has 2x-3x times more power than usualy.
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I still feel like Oni is a huge problem in 2v8.
They should have ALL their buffs removed, and take 2x the blood points to get into power. Even then, they would still be insanely strong, but at least I don't think I would feel as bad on the receiving end because maybe it might feel slightly more earned….
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I've always been of the opinion that we should have all the killers as just their base 1v4 versions first then see what needs adjusting. I can't believe we got a crazy buffed Oni, Nurse and Wesker(Weskers fine) meanwhile Nemesis and Slinger are in the corner.
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Nurse isnt that busted she is stronger but still has less potecial than blight in 2v8 only if she is with legion then its huge problem, nemesis,ghostface and slinger are kinda bad and nemesis is worst combination him and wesker and theres no readon to go for whip hits only to get tier two he is strong in chase but his slow power build up in fast phaste mode like 2v8 makes him more hindered than survivors when they get hinder after infection and still having two zombies on large maps with 60 palets and scout class that can rebuild them doesnt help much either.
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Do you remember og escapist he gave everyone around him in 12 meters range sprintburst with 20 or 30 seconds cooldown, after first cage he had selfcare like he has now but when you were injured you get basekit mft 3% speed buff now imagine playing as wraith uncloaking near gen with 4 survivors all that was needed was one escapist and you didnt get any hit just countered by one guy.
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For me mending usnt issue its just other killers that can get hits fast and on multiple survivors like huntress,blight,nurse or oni he gets power way faster or wraith who gets almost guarantee first hit if the survivor isnt with escapist sprintburst or bodyblocked or on palett legion just makes you to get oneshot for half the game sometimes even more.
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I can't express this enough. The ONLY reason it's worth queuing into the victim simulator that is 2v8 is the X5 bonus right now. Other than last night, the bulk of the matches I've seen are drastically one sided, even several of the ones I've escaped as a survivor, only 2 or 3 of us got out at the most. I think I've seen all 8 get out like 3 times.
8 Gens is too many with two killers being able to pressure the remaining ones when you're down to 1-3 left, far too many killers are queuing as "Play while you wait" and in some ways it feels like they're throwing the game (because they want to be playing killers not survivors), and the killer players are tunneling and slugging like no other.
This game mode feels like it's brought out the worst play traits of the community on both sides, and the solo queue suffers greatly from it.
I'm sure if you queue up as a full group it's totally different, but that's not the experience I'm having. And yes, there's a wait queue for survivors as well because that few are queuing as survivors, it's not just killers that are waiting to play.
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I really wish that they'd make it so Oni can only get his power through direct hits in 2v8, the Devs need to address things like this when it comes to a duo of two killers whose counterplay completely contradict each other as all it does is create constant lose/lose scenarios for survivors.
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I think oni needs his blood requirement raised
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