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I hate reworking Myers (and reworks in general) with a huge passion
Was Myers one of the worst killers? Certainly.
But he was unique. His whole gameplay was extremely fitting and his addons in particular were by far the most fun in the game. After the great change to dash slop, so many unique playstyles will be lost.
And I will absolutely die on the hill that Tombstone (Judith, not piece) was fine and very fun. I will miss it dearly.
I just don't get the point of reworking killers. You are essentially removing a character from the game instead of finding ways for them to be viable. But then, like with Myers, even while being unviable he was fun.
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His tombstone from my understanding still exist its added to his base kit.
Its explained porly though.
Although what i heavily dislike is his new lunge dash like ability that is shown in this gif:
As you can see bottom left the meter is being wasted so fast for one singular survivor on a singular loop in modern dbd 2025.
They never confirmed what happens if he does not get a confirmed HIT, will he suffer from slight exhaustion like recovery of a hit or can he move speedy and keep the chase active.
The ability is very scarce aka rare and its made to conversve it which i heavily dislike in modern dbd, few years back before wall hug tech was not meta and everyone was using it this would been fine.
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What exactly has he lost? He still has a stealth mode, general buffs to his action speed and an instadown mode with an extended lunge. He still has everything that makes Myers, well, Myers, just slightly differently.
This isn't removing the character from the game, the only rework that I think would constitute that was Freddy's rework back in the day, and this is not even close.
I fail to see what kind of playstyles will be lost (unless Judith's Tombstone or the Mirrors get significantly reworked), and even if there is any, Fragrant Tuft of Hair will act as a rollback, something Freddy never really got.
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The undetectable stealth mode is a plus but a miserable 4.2ms speed is not viable in all type of mmr lobbies.
Freddies major rework has made him viable in all type or mmr lobbies againts every type of player.
In the GIF you can clearly see the survivor did not do anything to prevent michael myers lunge attack, in current dbd everyone drops a pallet on you when you are in tier 3, im going to assume due to him showing heartbeat that will mean for the survivors to be aware his stalk meter is full and can use his lunge dash ability.
Which btw has insane long CD in comparison to drainage of his stalk meter.
Just look at the gif its miserable basekit.
Obviously addon rework is coming but 4.2ms in his stealth mode is going to fully just butcher if not already killed the playerbase that only runs stealth michael, when it was already butchered before by removing map offerings.
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My main concern is that they're turning a killer that was mechanically simple & easy to pick up and play into a killer that's moderately less simple & easy to pick up and play.
Yeah Myers is essentially "M1 killer that M1s better after stalking"…but isn't that awesome for new players? Isn't something lost by forcing people who might pick up the game just because they like Halloween to press more buttons (which complicates decision making) and be forced into a new dash-like mechanic that looks like it'll be harder to use than current Tier 3?
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They were supposed to do what they did to freddy and modernize him into modern dbd.
But look what they have done kept him 4.2ms speed and 4.6 in his pursuer mode.
This will be horrible and wont move him up any tiers in higher mmr matches
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Scratched Mirror already made you 4.2m/s anyway, and he was like that in Tier 1 for years. Maybe they could change the stealth mode to match the current movement speed, but that'd be easy, and not a reason to throw away the whole rework.
This rework, boiled down, is basically the ability to switch between Tier 1 and 2, a buff to his lunge, and some more buffs elsewhere.
I'm unsure if the lunge is even draining Tier 3 at an increased rate either. That looks about right for ~5 seconds from a 60 second power meter.
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Yeah but thats why i played tier 2 to have best of both worlds and have him same speed as freddy and actually be viable to play in higher mmr.
If they fully remove vanity mirror and scratched then its practically gg over for him, 4.2ms is not viable by the time u switch to 4.6ms mode the players will pre run to shack what they have already been doing.
I would settle for a singular mirror addon that lets u have 4.6ms speed and undetectable and decrease the buffs u gain from pursuer mode.
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god I hate that they gave michael a lunge…
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Nope it doesnt seem to drain the meter upon usage but there is a CD on the lunge dash ability.
Its generally like a hybrid blight + pig mashed together.
Im just worried about how it will play out because they mentioned the meter is filled up slower than the current EW.
If thats true then it means his pursuer max limit to stalk is going to be scarce, and it seems a bit weird its not like dynamical aka you can switch modes and fill up meter without it wasting it.
Rather everytime u use the ability it will waste a portion of the meter.
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cant tell if sarcasm or not (no offense i suck at knowing).
but its not gonna be that great honestly, its neither too op its also neither bad its just intended for plays at avg mmr, he still isnt viable at higher mmr.
he still probably wont climb tiers and rival A-S tier killers.
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Yeah from what i see is the meter still wastes even if he is not using his lunge dash ability.
Thats just wrong honestly.
I would prefer it being a dynamical thing where it stays filled for use rather once u start using ability it drains it completely.
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nope. I was being straight up honest. I hate giving this to michael and it has nothing to do with how powerful it is.
just gonna repeat what I posted somewhere else.
I generaly like this… except for…
Press the attack button while charging to quickly lunge forward, adjusting your angle as you move.
Silly rant first… OMG why is everyone a lunge/dash killer?!?
Now for the real complaining. I do not like this at all. Myers is the laziest slasher ever, he never runs, he never jumps, he never dives. He slowly walks towards you and overwhelms you with brute strenght.
could we not think of anything better to give him?
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what else could they have done??
plus he already had this long lunge before it’s just even longer nowCan we stop assuming everything is dash all because one dipshit started the trend cause of there hate boner for Ken and blight
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Yeah i agree.
I think im going to have to sadly say why they were given green light to give him this ability and its because this scene right here.
I will link you a video:
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anything else.
dude… it's literally a dash. How else do you even describe this?
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Yeah but the literal meter is being wasted while u use the ability once.
Ill rather it get wasted depending on my lunge how much i decide to hold the button for and then once i down i go back in stealth mode
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ngl… I completely forgot about that part of this scene… and tbf, most of halloween kills.
could argue it breaks character… but won't.
And even in that, he just walks away afterwards. Him dashing feels wrong…
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Yeah i will just have to adapt to it.
I will be really furiously pissed if the mirror addons get fully removed or wiped, ill rather there be one singular mirror that caps him at 4.6 with slight debuffs when he is in one or other mode while remaining undetectable, shorter power for dash.
My entire gameplay and playstyle revolves around my optimized off meta build for him that is intended for him currently being tier 2.
The whole lunge i think its going to look more like coup perk which already makes michael look like ice skating.
Its not necessarily dash more like baseline coup
I only wish the meter wont drain once u fill it up and trigger the lunge
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There was nothing fine about either of his mori add ons, they created boring, stale gameplay for both roles that either punishes survivors for little to no effort on the killer's end, or the add on is completely useless for the killer because survivors hide in lockers or spam an interaction.
With the new changes, you can only take survivors out of the game using the mori if they are death hook, which is how Pyramid head's machanic works. And if you're preventing the grab mori now, you're just dead because myers can just hook you now that you're on death hook when the mori is applicable.
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The main issue is how will this impact overall mmr and his ranking on killer tier list.
I think this could backfire like it is backfiring for pig at higher mmr matches.
In the gif you can see that the survivor is taking the loop wide, did not drop pallet.
And that its hard to control this new ability.
If they make it from the looks of it 50% more easier to control then this will be okay.
and for it to not waste the stalk meter for no reason unless using it.
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I think the playtester was just rotating their camera more cinematically for the purposes of showcasing the ability, there doesn'tseem to be a rotation lock or limited turn rate. I think this is just a reskinned, stronger Pig ambush seeing as it insta downs and also breaks pallets. Though this ability has a cooldown, so we'll see.
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I hope thats the case but if its similar to the rotational speed of pigs dash then we will have a problem.
I dont mind that slight slowdown before it gets filled up before it launches you into lunge but if i cant move normally like i would have in ew3 + coup then what is the point even, it will be hightly abusable by high mmr population.
Like it would be so nice and ideal if its literal extended coup or amplified baseline coup than a pure dash
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It was so disappointing to see what they planned for Myers. He was fun and unique for both sides, something that stood out in the game amidst the rest of the killers. Now he is basically a dash killer, which can also break pallets in power. How original BHVR.
I guess all those survivors who complained about Tombstone who didn't think about their position relative to the killer, didn't ever go into lockers during chase, and didn't just stay on a gen to waste his time in order to force a hook, are now going to get rewarded for it.
All Myers needed was Tombstone Piece (not Judith's) to get nerfed, and then get some basekit buffs that are disabled when using Tombstone. Maybe even give survivors a notification if Myers is using Tombstone add-on.
These changes from BHVR just destroy Myers' identity and how they will feel to play. I feel so bad for anyone who mains him. This is also why I hate it whenever they say they are going to adjust a killer, because you never know when they are going to do stuff like this. I find it hard to express just how disappointed I am to see these changes.
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Myers is as unique as a sable player throwing the game. His power is literally haunted grounds, like he is the deffinition of an m1 killer with no power. And this rework only gives him tools to be better and turns his old lunge into the same stuff but with more interesting mechanics and higher mechanical skill needed. Literally all good unless you literally want to play a killer without power.
But hey if its really an issue you can play trapper without placing traps and equip exposed perks and coup, congratulations you are playing myers.
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It's not basekit if it requires two hook states per survivor to achieve the same result.
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