Spies from the Shadows--is it good to use?
So I just recently saw this perk on my bloodweb for the hillbilly. Is it a decent perk? It SOUNDS decent, but then, even at the low ranks I play on right now, it seems that crows don't often get set off, unless it's by me. But maybe people don't care about crows at the higher ranks?
Anyways, bearing in mind I have NO DLC characters besides the free nurse, ergo no DLC perks, is this one viable to use? Or would I Just be wasting a perk slot?
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Works great when there is a good amount of crows on the map. Otherwise a few maps have little crow density and you may find it almost useless. I found it most effective on map perimeters but less so near the center.0
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@DemonDaddy said:
Works great when there is a good amount of crows on the map. Otherwise a few maps have little crow density and you may find it almost useless. I found it most effective on map perimeters but less so near the center.Thanks. I may end up using it for my 3rd perk slot in a couple levels when I unlock it. At least until I can get something better.
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@SIlentCetra said:
So I just recently saw this perk on my bloodweb for the hillbilly. Is it a decent perk? It SOUNDS decent, but then, even at the low ranks I play on right now, it seems that crows don't often get set off, unless it's by me. But maybe people don't care about crows at the higher ranks?I've heard it's a pretty good perk, haven't used it myself though.
Anyways, bearing in mind I have NO DLC characters besides the free nurse, ergo no DLC perks,
Not even Huntress? She's a free DLC, you just have to download her from the store.
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@SnakeSound222 said:
@SIlentCetra said:
Anyways, bearing in mind I have NO DLC characters besides the free nurse, ergo no DLC perks,Not even Huntress? She's a free DLC, you just have to download her from the store.
Is that a console thing? Because on Steam it comes automatically unlocked with the main game.
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@SIlentCetra said:
So I just recently saw this perk on my bloodweb for the hillbilly. Is it a decent perk? It SOUNDS decent, but then, even at the low ranks I play on right now, it seems that crows don't often get set off, unless it's by me. But maybe people don't care about crows at the higher ranks?Anyways, bearing in mind I have NO DLC characters besides the free nurse, ergo no DLC perks, is this one viable to use? Or would I Just be wasting a perk slot?
It definitely got better with the buff. Survivors are very unconcerned with setting off crows, so you'll get a lot of information from it. That said, keep in mind that the information is always old.
Meaning, if a survivor is running and sets off a crow 30 meters away, you know they were there when they set off the crow, but where did they get to while you traveled to where the crows were? If you can predict their direction, or pick up scratch marks after they set the crows off, it's great. If you fall into the trap of chasing crow alerts though, you're always going where they were, not where they are.
As far as compared to other informational perks, I would rate it above whispers since it's far more precise, but below any aura revealing perks such as BBQ, Discordance, or Surveillance.
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@PigNRun said:
@SnakeSound222 said:
@SIlentCetra said:
Anyways, bearing in mind I have NO DLC characters besides the free nurse, ergo no DLC perks,Not even Huntress? She's a free DLC, you just have to download her from the store.
Is that a console thing? Because on Steam it comes automatically unlocked with the main game.
I think it is. I remember having to download Huntress from the PS Store.
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@SnakeSound222 said:
@SIlentCetra said:
So I just recently saw this perk on my bloodweb for the hillbilly. Is it a decent perk? It SOUNDS decent, but then, even at the low ranks I play on right now, it seems that crows don't often get set off, unless it's by me. But maybe people don't care about crows at the higher ranks?I've heard it's a pretty good perk, haven't used it myself though.
Anyways, bearing in mind I have NO DLC characters besides the free nurse, ergo no DLC perks,
Not even Huntress? She's a free DLC, you just have to download her from the store.
Ah, I do have huntress. I didn't realize she wasn't one of the vanilla killers, my bad
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Great on macmillan maps, useless on coldwind maps.
Autohaven seems ok, lerys is great.0 -
I found it definitely better than before. Survivors generally ignore crows so it can work really well for you.
That said, on most maps there aren't enough crows AND the few crows there are you can usually see fly away when you are close enough anyway (telling you a survivor is there). On top of that, for a map like Lery's where there are tons of crows, Spies is actually SUPER obnoxious. It's just constant explosions and it's like "dude I know where the survivor is STFU stupid birds".
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It's a good perk, but it's extremely map-dependant. On some maps like Lery's and MacMillan it's so great it not only allows you to know where survivors are, but even where they are going, in Coldwind maps it's a wasted perk slot. All in all is a nice perk with potential to be great if devs will balance crows across the maps.
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@SIlentCetra said:
So I just recently saw this perk on my bloodweb for the hillbilly. Is it a decent perk? It SOUNDS decent, but then, even at the low ranks I play on right now, it seems that crows don't often get set off, unless it's by me. But maybe people don't care about crows at the higher ranks?Anyways, bearing in mind I have NO DLC characters besides the free nurse, ergo no DLC perks, is this one viable to use? Or would I Just be wasting a perk slot?
Completely debatable since there are better perks out there however it is still a good perk.
I use to run the perk a decent amount before the buff came out. It allows you to have a pseudo-Doctor terror radius effect on any killer you equip it. Take that for what you will but it helps find people who don't pay attention for crows (and honestly who actually looks out for crows, aside from Pale Rose).Since they added new visual updates to the alerts its even easier to pinpoint where people are moving. If you have trouble prioritizing the notifications it may be best to take a step back, after all you can't chase every one you find.
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I personally wouldn't bother with using Spies, there are a ton of tracking Perks in the game that are more reliable and useful imo. I'd say work towards getting those: Discordance, Survellaince, BBQ & Chili, Nurse's Calling and even Stridor has been pretty useful as well.
I'd say use another Perk over Spies, even if it isn't a tracking Perk.0 -
If you don't have a lot of good perks yet then be yes, compared to some of the generic perks killers get it's actually very powerful. Once you have access to BBQ, Discordance, etc then I'd leave it but for now yeah it's a good tracking perk.0
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@ClogWench said:
If you don't have a lot of good perks yet then be yes, compared to some of the generic perks killers get it's actually very powerful. Once you have access to BBQ, Discordance, etc then I'd leave it but for now yeah it's a good tracking perk.Yeah right now, I don't have much for perk choices, so it's slim pickings for me :P
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It’s not always reliable as it has a direct counter with Calm Spirit. Not a lot of players use Calm Spirit but I’m just saying that Spies is not always 100% reliable. There are better tracking perks like BBQ, Surveillance, and Bitter Murmur.
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