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Why does this even exist???
It's just a free getaway, instead of doing 3 more gens you just escape into the ground.
At least make it so you need to do 1 gen, then escape.
Also the hatch standoffs, do something about it! We can stay there for hours...
I'm not a salty killer, i main survivor and i really want it removed...
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@drunky26 said:
Why does this even exist???It's just a free getaway, instead of doing 3 more gens you just escape into the ground.
At least make it so you need to do 1 gen, then escape.
Also the hatch standoffs, do something about it! We can stay there for hours...
I'm not a salty killer, i main survivor and i really want it removed...I was under the impression that the hatch will only appear when enough generators has been powered--so the survivor number plus 1 generators have to be powered for the hatch to appear. That is what I read somewhere, anyway.
If that is the case, for it to even appear for say 2 survivors, 3 gens would need to be done. THEN they have to actually FIND the hatch, which can spawn anywhere there is a palette, from what I read. So its not necessarily a reliable way to escape.
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If 2 gens are done and 3 survivors are dead, hatch is open for the last survivor.
It's kinda unfair because if the killer killed others while only 2 gens got done, he deserves the 4th kill.3 -
@drunky26 said:
If 2 gens are done and 3 survivors are dead, hatch is open for the last survivor.It's kinda unfair because if the killer killed others while only 2 gens got done, he deserves the 4th kill.
He doesn't "deserve" any kill. And again, the survivor still has to find the hatch in the first place. If there's only one survivor left (this happened to me when I played as survivor yesterday), you could sit and patrol the hatch yourself.
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@drunky26 said:
If 2 gens are done and 3 survivors are dead, hatch is open for the last survivor.It's kinda unfair because if the killer killed others while only 2 gens got done, he deserves the 4th kill.
You don't "deserve" a 4k. You got 3 and move on. If you to the ranks with better players you will be lucky to get 3k.
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"survivor main btw" meme needed here.drunky26 said:I'm not a salty killer, i main survivor and i really want it removed...
You say you don't want to stay there for hours? As a killer just hit them and they'll leave, as a survivor just jump and let the killer grab you. Problem solved.1 -
Here we go again
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You're not entitled to a 4k, sorry
Stop complaining over something that has counter play *cough* *cough* slug.
This is like survivors complaining over the killer camping for 1 kill, after the gates are powered (which has less counter play btw).3 -
Let us immagine if this idea actually goes trough.
You got your 3K, 2 gens are done and the last survivor is somewhere... in a corner? A locker? The basement? The important thing is to find it, right? Well sit your ass up cuz you're going for a ride that can even last 1 hour and on!
Seriously, the hatch exists so that we avoid situations where the game gets stalled like hell because you people are NEVER satisfied with anything.
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The hatch is a way to end the game quicker in that scenario as a survivor can just stealth around prolonging the game as seen with the ptb change on closing the hatch.
A standoff can only happen with two stubborn players, either jump in or hit them, staying there for a stupid amount of time for such little BP is on those who chose to do it not the mechanic.
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"Survivor main btw" 0
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There's nothing wrong with the hatch. If you stand there for hours that's your own damn fault. Either jump and let the person get you or figure out a way to do the gens simple.1
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I'll leave these here. Only the beginning in each is relevant to the discussion.
https://youtu.be/4B_v60fL2lo
https://youtu.be/7kUNfY2c1aA
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@SIlentCetra said:
@drunky26 said:
If 2 gens are done and 3 survivors are dead, hatch is open for the last survivor.It's kinda unfair because if the killer killed others while only 2 gens got done, he deserves the 4th kill.
He doesn't "deserve" any kill. And again, the survivor still has to find the hatch in the first place. If there's only one survivor left (this happened to me when I played as survivor yesterday), you could sit and patrol the hatch yourself.
He killed 3 people before finishing the gens, that was earned, you lost the game.
Also "you could sit and patrol the hatch yourself. " Is just complete nonsense. Yeah let's sit there and then start a hatch standoff for a few hours. That isn't a counter.
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How did they lose the game if they are still alive?Blueberry said:@SIlentCetra said:
@drunky26 said:
If 2 gens are done and 3 survivors are dead, hatch is open for the last survivor.It's kinda unfair because if the killer killed others while only 2 gens got done, he deserves the 4th kill.
He doesn't "deserve" any kill. And again, the survivor still has to find the hatch in the first place. If there's only one survivor left (this happened to me when I played as survivor yesterday), you could sit and patrol the hatch yourself.
He killed 3 people before finishing the gens, that was earned, you lost the game.
Also "you could sit and patrol the hatch yourself. " Is just complete nonsense. Yeah let's sit there and then start a hatch standoff for a few hours. That isn't a counter.
Yes the killer earned those three kills but they have not yet earned the death of the last one, if anyone chooses to sit there for a silly amount of time in a standoff then that is on them, it's a choice someone makes not something that anyone has to do.
Would you rather look for an immersed survivor for a silly amount of time as that's what happened on the ptb with the closing mechanic.
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if it's a standoff just do a gen and see if they run to it then run around the way the killer went, got the hatch from a Myers as he just camped it that way
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Whenever there is a hatch standoff, I'll either smack the survivor in the butt or kill myself by jumping into the hatch. I don't have time for a flawed mechanic, it's better to move on in my opinion.fcc2014 said:@drunky26 said:
If 2 gens are done and 3 survivors are dead, hatch is open for the last survivor.It's kinda unfair because if the killer killed others while only 2 gens got done, he deserves the 4th kill.
You don't "deserve" a 4k. You got 3 and move on. If you to the ranks with better players you will be lucky to get 3k.
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@drunky26 said:
If 2 gens are done and 3 survivors are dead, hatch is open for the last survivor.It's kinda unfair because if the killer killed others while only 2 gens got done, he deserves the 4th kill.
A killer can slug to prevent the last guy from escaping.
The hatch is supposed to be a tool that allows a good survivor to escape even though their teammates didn't play well.
The devs and most people here in the community acknowledge that the hatch standoff is a problem. That problem did not get solved yet since there is no concept which is good enough.
If you have an idea for a hatch rework, share it with us.
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@SIlentCetra said:
@drunky26 said:
Why does this even exist???It's just a free getaway, instead of doing 3 more gens you just escape into the ground.
At least make it so you need to do 1 gen, then escape.
Also the hatch standoffs, do something about it! We can stay there for hours...
I'm not a salty killer, i main survivor and i really want it removed...I was under the impression that the hatch will only appear when enough generators has been powered--so the survivor number plus 1 generators have to be powered for the hatch to appear. That is what I read somewhere, anyway.
If that is the case, for it to even appear for say 2 survivors, 3 gens would need to be done. THEN they have to actually FIND the hatch, which can spawn anywhere there is a palette, from what I read. So its not necessarily a reliable way to escape.
No the hatch spawns in specific locations if you remember them end game is EZ
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Have you ever had a three-gen game that dragged on forever because the survivors crouched in a dark corner waiting for a miracle to occur? Without the hatch, that will be every single killer victory. It boggles my mind to think that you complain about the time lost to hatch standoffs and then turn around and say you want it removed entirely.
The hatch is there for the killer's benefit, not the survivor's. If you killed three survivors and the last one hatched out, you won.
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Doesn’t have counter play when they just DC consequence freeJanTheMan said:You're not entitled to a 4k, sorry
Stop complaining over something that has counter play *cough* *cough* slug.
This is like survivors complaining over the killer camping for 1 kill, after the gates are powered (which has less counter play btw).0
