I’m confused on where the direction of DBD is headed (Genuinely)
We are focused on health updates but still waiting for health updates?
We have a DC system in place but yet people are dcing like crazy?
We have a go next prevention but people dc out of it anyways?
The abandon system feels….weird…like a get out of jail free card every single time?
I’m genuine confused. I mean it with sincerity and respect. What are we doing? Why does this all feel so messy? The other anti mechanics haven’t hit live yet and I think that might add to more of my confusion… 😅
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Well BHVR constantly knee caps their own DC penalty system and alongside the abandon system it's actually easier for survivors to quit games without building up large time penalties.
I think the core problem is that the devs just do not play their own game in an actual setting and rely too much on data and surveys to make changes. And the surveys lately show a bias towards survivor as well.
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Gets downvoted, yet is objectively correct.
/facepalm
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In my opinion, it's all the illusion of change. We had big promises but they have all been a disaster in practice or were never given their time to shine. So what we're getting after a YEAR of health, are slight numbers tweaks like we all assumed from the beginning. Nothing is changing, it's only shifting a hair to the right.
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Oh I know I will get downvoted for this into oblivion but I must say it.
BHVR and the community need to get their stuff together.
Time after time some changes will be tried by bhvr or demanded by the community. But as soon as something is done a shitstorm of hell is comming up and BHVR scratches the idea of their table.
Let me give you an example:
New Anti Tunnel System: Idea from BHVR give Killer a punishment if someone dies before 6 hooks. Big Part of the Community says these are to many hooks and that 4 would be better. Shitstorm of BHVR holds hand with this or that side escalate and BHVR decides to scratch it completly.
No side will ever be happy with changes. Just look my earlier discussions how to fix tunneling or slugging for the 4k. Nearly no one came up to discuss. Just answers like "well in 1 of 1000 cases it could happen" so the idea should be scrapped.
BHVR needs to man up. Put a change into game and needs to look how it developes. This game had harder times and still survived but we won´t get ahead if we don´t try.
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Some people tired of proposing fixes. For me personally no point in them until BHVR fix fundamental problems like servers, matchmaking, bugs, maps. I don’t understand over obsession with play-styles in this community that allows devs postponing technical fixes.
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This is the exact sorta thing I made a previous post about (random downvoting of stuff that makes no sense that also got downvoted to hell lmfao). Why are people downvoting this guy? This isn't an opinion piece. THIS IS STRAIGHT UP JUST PROVEN FACTUAL STATEMENTS. God this community hurts my brain.
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Don't know why anyone cares if their post is down voted.
Make your point as you're perfectly entitled too and if others don't like it then they can come up with a counter argument.
Don't get hung up on down votes it doesn't mean your opinion isn't valid/correct.
On the state of the game it's pretty poor at the moment and changes seem to be aimed at survivors who can't learn to loop killers or can't learn when to drop a pallet or when to save a fellow survivor and when and what gen to do.
Perhaps a better training mode would be more beneficial as new survivors are just thrown to the wolves.
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The correct term would be subjectively not objectively, unless people have the raw numbers they cannot be objective about anything since they only have a personal experience with.
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That's how most people seem to be on this forum. If it doesn't help them sleep better at night, it gets a down vote.. xD Lots of entitled people play this game.
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I agree with much of this.
I think they had a clear plan at the start of their quality of life initiative but since then more than half of it has gone in the dustbin because prominent voices in the community dunked all over it. The player base has no patience and because BHVR couldn't do everything that was needed in one patch, many of us could only react to the changes in isolation and gave feedback accordingly. So now we have… Whatever this is because they had to go back to the drawing board more than a few times to rework their ideas (further delaying efforts they might have otherwise put into bug fixes etc).
If much of what they'd planned had gone to live, I think the game might be in a healthier state right now (e.g. haste no longer stacking but individual effects being stronger, stronger anti-tunnel with base-kit gen regression). But I guess now we'll never know. I honestly think BHVR are listening more to the player base (which is good) but also over-correcting a lot of the time (which is bad). They haven't yet found a happy medium between when to listen to feedback and when to stick to their guns, imo.
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I've noticed people here tend to downvote posts that have anything negative towards survivors and anything positive towards killers. I also think its the same people always downvoting.
Many people here are heavily biased towards survivor side and cannot see the game from both sides since they rarely or never play killer.
I also agree that the devs have lost the plot. Survey was heavily survivor sided, and i am actually little scared of the upcoming update.
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I'm not so sure either, and I can't entirely blame BHVR either. Well, to a degree.
We as a whole community want games to last a bit longer so everyone can enjoy the match, but changes come in half baked or so hated people want it entirely scrapped, not adjusted. It doesn't help that BHVR seems to be focusing more on the survivor side of things than killer as of late which is influencing these decisions.
But as others have said, DBD is a technical nightmare that will only get worse if they do band-aid fixes rather than a complete health update of the code and more general additions. I'm still a firm believer that more than getting anti-tunnel, we need updated tutorials and in-game easy to access information. It makes me wonder if I should revisit my post about the in-game compendium I did awhile back and make a follow up.3 -
game need to be rebuild from the ground up.
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i thought the dc penalty was adjusted to the point where it did nothing?
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The same we were before this whole thing.
This was just a detour that led nowhere.
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Just look at Stuff they changed in the last time for no reason at all.
Fog Vials: Hey new Item to help stealth players or get a head start. "What? The community don´t want a recharge timer but tokens? Well better destroy the complete item."
AFK Crows: Hey AFK crows should be more aggressive so that no on can hide and rat out others. "What?" The cimmunity don´t want them to spawn when they are actually playing the game and want them to be less aggressive? Better remove crows kinda out of the game"
Tombstone Myers: Hey tombstone Myers is way to strong. "What does the community say? Just make it that he can use it on death hook or if he completly stalked you so he fits more with his lore? Well better rework the whole Killer into Dashkiller which fits him not at all."
Not every critique means to completly remove things. Just work them out better. From time to time it can be good to listen to you community.
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Lot of people who play dbd are very childish no matter what the devs could implement it won't change the people
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Because of how it is framed and the history of the poster behind it.
Other than kneejerk downvotes, that's why people don't like it.
Honestly, I thought about responding to it, but what's the point?
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