Hot take

The First is a c- killer, he's actually trash, if you get even a half decent team they just run out of view of your attack and the killer is completely useless, his special ability never hits, his other attack is a 50/50 so you could spend a minute chasing a survivor and 4 gens are done. Congrats, I also seen Myers got a shadow nerf to his lunge ability making it at least 25% worse both in range and speed. I get Bhvr wanting to nerf killers but the fact they're nerfing killers so hard in real time while not touching the 1:45 gen rush makes the killer experience miserable.

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  • CompetitifDBD
    CompetitifDBD Member Posts: 1,001

    You know, I can actually get behind this a little. He has very simple counterplay of just W keying, and Undergate is absolute trash against aware survivors. Though when he does get power, he is very powerful, and he keeps it for a minimum of 80-85 seconds with 4 survivors alive who instantly start the clock. the problem is it's just hard to get power against unpredictable survivors on maps with no choke points and LOS blockers, his power is too much of a 50/50 that only becomes good when you zone a survivor.

    Ironically, survivors that are newer play better against more experienced Vecnas, because their pathing is so bad, its unpredictable. I find turning my brain off in chase to be very effective, just stat doing non sensible things in chase to throw off the killer. Start predicting stupid choices of pathing, especially when they force survivors back into you or into edge map/zone them. Be patient with power too, don't spam it, try aiming and last second flicking to where you think a survivor is going to run and then launching the vine

    Didn't know Myers got nerfed, and not sure why its to his speed/range, the problem is more his cooldown and insta eating pallets with slaughtering strike

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,881
    edited February 22

    I dont thik he is that bad but I think he is very overrated, like yes he has great potencial but unlike nurse he needs to aim more ahead like pyramidhead and on top survivor has enough time for doging if he misses he gets solid slowdown and survivor holds W and after few missed attacks this killer just looses the ability to have survvior un vines range and must hold W too with 110 speed to be able to try and hit survvior again.

    His mobility isnt that bad but it hard gets you hit against survviors that know how to outplay it (just hold W and if he tryes to go ahead than turn 90 degrees and keep holding distance, in open area he shouldnt be able to hit you unless you make huge mistake). His mobility is terrible for catching up because he will loose so much distance compare to other killers.

    Unlike other killers he sufferes as nemesis with simular issue and thats fact he is powerless without clock mode activated, if he hasnt get two tokens (by hitting single survvior two times with vine attack or once with his mobility hit) on sinle survivor he wont start them and is powerless 110 killer.

    I think he is a-tier somewhere but he has same issue as nemi with getting clock activated so he can do something and another is basicaly pyramidhead issue where he must be very good at predicting what will survvior do and where he will be in time when vines will apear and hit.

    Survivor moves 4 m/s and his vine hitbox is 1,84 meters of area (pyramidheads is 50 cm or 0,5 meters so henry has 3x wider hitbox but must keep clock activated and is 110 speed killer more dependent on his special power), survivor has like 2 meters and some cm of distance when the vines apear because vine attack has 0,6 seconds delay before they hit so I dont think he is that op as people say, he is very good if he has great prediction and can hit often but other than that he isnt that great and on top he is very very hard killer in terms of skill. He can spam his power a little but he gets slowed a lot and than must catch up in which he is very terrible and exhastion perks for distance destroy him hard so no new nurse as some claim plus his counterply is more simular to nurse just block los and be more unpredictiable where you are going plus hold W and you will do fine against him.

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,636

    C Tier I feel is a little harsh. I do quite well with him but that just could be how my brain is wired. I am good with prediction shots.

  • Ragna_Rock
    Ragna_Rock Member Posts: 264

    Id say B tier its just exhaustion perks destroy this guy.

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 2,683

    In skilled hands, he's probably an A. There are Henrys that barely ever miss and they've got Worldbreaker active pretty much constantly.

    In my hands? A C, yeah. But he's fun so whatever.

  • DemonicDemons
    DemonicDemons Member Posts: 50

    Actually I destroy people with nurse except for those that use infinite loop and somehow always dodge my attack so I don't think it's that

  • BongoBoys
    BongoBoys Member Posts: 801

    He's A Tier it's just holding W and Exhaustion perks make him seem like hes not cause it hard counters him

  • DemonicDemons
    DemonicDemons Member Posts: 50

    He's not A tier I don't feel, 95% of the time I don't land his undergate and I'd love to see actual statistics regarding the hit rate of this specific attack, the second they see it they pre run gen and by the time I get out they're across the map even with 20% haste for 2 seconds. Sound cues on my other attack means they just dodge it 75% of the time unless you get extremely lucky which does happen but rarely, removing skill completely from the equation.

    Then if they just outrun you they got free heals now unless you commit to a minute(s) long chase losing gens in the process. It really doesn't feel good as a killer, everyone else I see slugs with this killer which isn't fun for anybody and not how I play but lets be honest it's how he's meant to be played because if you're committing to minutes long chases and only get one hook you're never going to win.

    What makes you guys so sure he's an A tier killer? Because sometimes you get lucky with hits? You make it seem like you can accurately predict hits with a 80%+ accuracy rate but the killer stats show a 53% kill rate which is quite underwhelming to me for an A tier killer, seems more like a C tier and that's exactly how I feel when I play as him.

  • Rickprado
    Rickprado Member Posts: 993

    C tier is too much. Not as strong as Nurse, as some people claim.

    Probably a solid A tier. When people get better at countering his power - they already are getting better at this - he will be much less "powerful" than he appears to be now.