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Should Ghostface be buffed or reworked?

Xray
Xray Member Posts: 446

Over the last couple of years Ghostface has fallen further and further down the tier list down towards the bottom, he is even considered the worst killer in the game by some big creators. Now a buff is needed for him of course, but i pose the question if just buffing him is the right call because even if you make some addons basekit and change some numbers around it will not really do much. I think the only way Ghostface can get out of the dumps is if he gets a full rework

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  • Xray
    Xray Member Posts: 446

    His power is so outdated, since skull merchant isnt getting a rework he needs to be a priority for big changes

  • OrangeBear
    OrangeBear Member Posts: 3,812

    He would never be reworked because his pick rate is #7 in brazil at least. They don't rework killers that are popular even if they are weak it's why Legion remains as is.

    Drop leg knife sheath basekit seems reasonable at this point. Maybe a basekit debuff to survivors that reveal you as well.

  • Leon_van_Straken
    Leon_van_Straken Member Posts: 649

    Rework won´t happen but you could buff him like this.

    1. Put his stealth Audio down, I mean he should be with Myers one of the best Jumpscare Stealth Killers in the game and it is kinda annoying that good Survivors know you are there when every Killer with undetectable got better stealth…
    2. Make it that you have to see his mask to reveal him so that people can´t run behind him and making him powerless.
  • Dark_Vorahk1
    Dark_Vorahk1 Member Posts: 146

    Some minor haste changes would be welcome. Maybe gain 5% haste while survivors are not looking at you in cloak, and 10% while chasing a marked survivor. They should have some reward for using their power even if a Survivor is injured, exposed killers are very outdated.

  • PetTheDoggo
    PetTheDoggo Member Posts: 2,348

    I don't think he needs full rework, I kinda like his unique playstyle.

    If they want him to just become better, there are several options in his addons that could just become basekit…

  • zonkednb
    zonkednb Member Posts: 235

    • I like @Leon_van_Straken's idea of having to see that mask to reveal, as it would counter the follow-the-leader reveal shenans good survivors do. However I'm worried this could be exploitable given that the reveal mechanic is already jank. Might be worth it to see Ghosties using the toddler stealth tech "if I can't see you you can't see me." though.

      Pretty sure everyone agrees the problem with him is he can't keep up with the pace of the game as it is now. Maps are too big when you have no mobility. Gens are quick and the average skill of survivors has increased over time. I'm probably not alone in feeling like it takes less than a handful of mistakes to put you so far behind that you can only hope to snowball off of survivors getting too cocky.

      I've seen people float a small haste boost while unseen and in stealth, sort of like the 2v8 class. Maybe basekit increase to break/kick speed while stealthed to help with his slow pace. I just wouldn't want to give him anything that helps him in chase against a non-exposed survivor. His playstyle is fun which is why him being relatively weak doesn't hamper how often you see him. I play him despite being pretty bad with him just because when it goes right, you feel like a legit mastermind.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,157

    Buffed, his ability is just combination of perks like oblivious effect untill survivor doesnt reveal you looking at you for 3 seconds inj which they reveal you if they see you 70% of time of that 3 seconds (meaning you can react to it and hide but you will still get auto revealed behind rock or wall if they looked at you 70% of that reveal duration) or untill he swinds his weapon and making survivors exposed for minute plus he can crouch like survivor (lean so he is less seen and cant be exposed when stalking) so his strongest parts of power are just perks and yes his exposed duration is effected by perk like vigil.

    Only positive thing about ghostface is that he is pretty fun character but very undepowered and probably most bullyable killer even more than hag or trapper.

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,308

    Only after Skull Merchant, Pig and Hag at least, let us keep an orderly queue here, shall we?

  • zonkednb
    zonkednb Member Posts: 235

    SM, Pig and Hag waiting for the rework.

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    ngl I kinda love playing pig as she is

  • Chilli_man2400
    Chilli_man2400 Member Posts: 3,198

    simple buffs that should help

    • Injuring a survivor no longer depletes the marked meter
    • Marking a survivor grants you 5% haste for 15 seconds
  • th3
    th3 Member Posts: 1,882

    That reminds me of when survivors deep wound depleted cause the killer intentionally didn't look at them so chase wouldn't trigger lmfao.

  • Chrarcq
    Chrarcq Member Posts: 158
    edited March 5

    He's been bottom for many years now. He's even more the epitome of a "vanilla M1 killer" than Trapper is. And it depends on what you consider a "rework". He doesn't need an actual rework like what Nightmare got (twice) but he surely needs new stuff added to his base power however.

  • CorgiSploots
    CorgiSploots Member Posts: 23
    edited March 5

    Honestly I think a lot of his issues would be fixed if they ditched the favor the shooter bs on killer. His big ones regarding reveal seem heavily on the ping

  • Langweilig
    Langweilig Member Posts: 3,235

    I want the 2vs8 buffs for him in normal