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Jason vs Darth Vader
So there's been a commotion lately about who the anniversary Killer will be Jason Voorhees or Darth Vader and the two sides have been arguing about if they will or belong in dbd
Personally I don't mind if both come to DBD what do y'all think?
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The prospect of Darth Vader coming to a horror game before Jason is kind of crazy to me..
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I think most people bring up the vader hallway scene
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I'd honestly like to see both, though I do think a Death Troopers Star Wars chapter would be a much better fit (one of the few Star Wars books that I really enjoyed). But obviously Jason should come to the game first. If it is Jason, it's a shame we lost two horror icons so recently with Myers and Pinhead saying goodbye before he could be added to complete the whole museum of horror ideal.
That said, hear me out, I think it's actually neither of these IPs. It's more likely to be a Predator chapter, just because I think the Predator and Alien licenses were probably negotiated at the same time. There's also an outside chance it's a Squid Game chapter (I'm basing this on the new Seoul city map and BHVR & Netflix being on good terms again).
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Yeah Vader does have some horror moments in movies and comics he can be pretty scary
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The curse of licensing issues affects Jason strongly meanwhile Disney will do whatever with their ips as long as they can make money
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I'm trying to imagine how predator would work or be unique in this game he would have his Wrist blades and the Cloak ability also his shoulder plasma cannon but that'd be pretty hard to balance also if you look at predator hunting grounds there's tons of weapons he could use
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gonna be Frank Stone/The Champion fr fr.
but my guess is jason tbh11 -
No joke that would be a major disappointment for the community I'd rather it be Jason then the champion
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BHVR would be wise not to get tangled up with Disney.
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Jason is the only one from the Mount Rushmore of horror icons who isn't in this game.
I hope it's him.
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Vader? Pahh
Jason? Pahh
I forsee the anniversary chapter and I tell you it is going to be a T-Rex
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I love dark horse licenses. I love DnD and Tokyo Ghoul because of how much it stretches the game's definition of the Horror genre. My most wanted niche license for a full chapter (not an ugly Legion skin) is Hotline Miami so I really don't have room to speak. Vader in DBD is so far from the top of my list I don't even consider him as an entry into the Hall of Fame of Horror. If that is controversial, I'm sorry, I guess? I wouldn't hate seeing him ingame but I do feel that having a license as corporate and AAAA as modern Star Wars feels like a far cry from the same game that has Alan Wake, the original Ring movie, and other smaller horror IPs.
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Not recently. Multiversus, CoD, Fortnite, Halloween Horror Nights, the A24 show, the new movie rumoured to be in early production, the new Friday game. All of this is proof that the iron is hot and its time to strike.
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I would be severely disappointed if Vader ever gets added.
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Darth Vader just doesn't work. if his lightsaber m1 doesn't one hit down then what's the point.
also, force choke would be incredibly unfun and toxic for survivor. y'all thought kidnap tech was bad? a Vader that doesn't force choke isn't Vader.
Vader is a character you'd want to be slow like Nurse so yeah...idk I don't see the vision.
I would much rather be given Jaws.
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One is a horror icon that inspired the first ever DbD killer and is one of the slasher staples….
The other is a space wizard.
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I've rolled with a lot of punches, but I'd consider quitting if Star Wars came to this game .
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I have to say that while I would love to have both in the game. But I also have to say I want Jason to come first. Cause he’s one of the main slashers we need to be completed with the other slasher icons. And while having Darth Vader would be again cool. But he wouldn’t be as powerful like in other games and movies. Which is fine but he wouldn’t feel much like Darth Vader.
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I think having to pay attention to annual "May the 4th" celebrations in DBD would drive me nuts tbh
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Actually begging BHVR to never add Darth Vader to this game.
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I mean, we've a regular wizard from a board game, a Hollywood A-lister and a Killer from FNAF the Fisher-Price horror franchise, all added to the game before we got Jason.
It's fair to say DBD lost its horror purity a long time ago, imo. Maybe if we didn't have those other things, I'd say Vader doesn't fit but we do so… From a personal point of view, at least this time it will be something I actually like.
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I know its ragebait but you have got to be kidding me by calling Arch-Lich, god among mortals and fellow gods, THE Whispered One himself, Vecna, a frigging "regular wizard". I guess Myers is a chump 19-year old with a knife and Freddy is just a creep with butter knives on his fingies.
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It's honestly not rage bait. I'm sorry for not being sufficiently informed when it comes to D&D lore but yeah, the guy really is just a standard everyday fantasy wizard to me. Since you're telling me he's a big deal outside of the Entity's realm… OK, fair enough. But surely you have to admit his powers don't seem all that impressive when he's in the fog (hence why I called him a regular wizard). There's nothing to his DBD incarnation to suggest he belongs in a horror video game any more than Darth Vader does.
Let's be fair and say Vader isn't just a "space wizard" either, though I do think it's still pretty funny to call him that if it annoys people.
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now I'm imagining Hagrid saying "yer a wizard, Annie"
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I think most people get why the vibe is off here. Star Wars isn't just kiddie and not horror, it's next to Marvel as one of the world's most soulless, cash grabby franchises. Vecna works because DnD is still kinda of a niche, nerd thing. Most people probably didn't know who he was before he was added (or before Stranger Things). Star Wars comes with tons of corporate baggage and pre-determined feelings, much of which centers around cutsy stuff like jokey robots and baby aliens.
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Vader fits more into DBD than Nick Cage, Lara Croft, and Castlevania. BHVR has let plenty of non-horror franchises into the game. Make me understand the sudden gate keeping.
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You haven't seen enough episodes or comics of Star wars there is horror in it
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I'm aware. I've read Death Troopers. Used to play the video games, read the comics and books, and watch the shows. There's horror in everything if you look for it. You can say the same thing about Marvel too. Doesn't mean it fits. FNAF is goofy to me, but it's fully horror-related. SW is not.
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Nothing belongs in DBD until it is in DBD at which point it now belongs, because BHVR owns the game and they decide what fits and what doesn't. We aren't the gatekeepers, BHVR are. DBD used to only collaborate with slasher films, then it spread into videogames and still later horror-adjacent IPs like Castlevania and Dungeons & Dragons. Eventually we'll get an outright non-horror property that promises enough money, such as Star Wars.
DBD is barely a horror game these days without even factoring in its more recent collaborations, so I don't really care whether an incoming IP is horror or not, but I hope they prioritize major horror or horror-adjacent icons like Jason and Predator before they start filling the game with non-horror properties.
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Blown away that you have downvotes. I'm an older millennial and LOVE Star Wars, it has always been a big part of my life, but modern Star Wars is 100% merchandise advertising wrapped up as entertainment.
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Too late. Disney owns the Alien IP. In for a penny…
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It's super sad what Disney did to it. It's as creatively driven as McDonald's and Coca Cola at this point. Even if it was still George Lucas's SW and I still loved it, I can recognize what doesn't belong in this game. Not everything you like needs to be included, ya know? This isn't My Favorite Fandom: The Game.
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It's been that way since Return of the Jedi at least.
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I think the ewoks opened that realm of possibility for them, but it took them many many years to capitalise on that
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I would rather have Jason over vader in ten year anniversary of dbd since Jason is horror movie Icon and he fit with theme of dbd while Vader is more like sci-fi theme and bhvr should only do collab with horror movies, animes and comic book
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Fair points. I think BHVR are always going to ruffle some feathers when they add things to the game that aren't taken directly from a horror franchise. But it's kind of hard for me to think of D&D still being a niche nerdy thing when it featured in one of the biggest TV shows in recent times and has been owned by Hasbro for the last 20 years. Whether people like it or not, many of the traditional geeky fandoms have fully crossed over into the mainstream. I'm in my 40s now, so I've been around to seen this happening in real time.
I do agree with your point around the baggage certain properties carry with them. After she was added, I got into playing the Tomb Raider games that our more grounded and realistic Lara is taken from and I enjoyed them thoroughly. But to my mind, Lara Croft will always be the cartoonish 90's version because that was my introduction to the character. She's grown to become a cultural phenomenon in her own right to the degree that (to me, at least) adding her to DBD is not a million miles away from adding Super Mario to the game.
That said, if BHVR think they can make Vader work for their game then I think they should shoot their shot. Perhaps it would be a little goofy and jarring to see him in the fog. But then again, one of Vecna's powers is to make a giant purple hand appear and I can't imagine Vader's DBD iteration to be any goofier than that. Like said before, I think we've already crossed that bridge and gate keeping at this point feels a bit silly.
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You're getting downvoted for the truth. Naysayers prove me wrong: is modern Star Wars not one of the most soulless, corporate, overhyped, and underwhelming properties ever? You seriously want DBD to have a degree or two of separation from the Sequel Trilogy, all the crappy Disney + shows, and the new Mando film that seems to appeal to strictly children and winemoms?
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it's a shame that the Ewoks get seen as merely kiddy cash grabs those guys were straight up Vietnamese guerrilla fighters. I thought they were kinda terrifying in RotJ
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Ewoks fighting off the stormtroopers were the most epic moments
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There is no way you just said Star Wars belongs in DbD over Castlevania - The series about fighting Count Dracula and his hordes of demons, monsters, and undead.
I for one was also was against Tomb Raider being added, but I believe the Vader "gate keeping" is because Star Wars is a far bigger IP that is not connected to the horror genre in the slightest. It sometimes has mature elements of course, but in my opinion more people need to learn that maturity does not equal horror.
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Cage is a well known horror actor and a gag license so I'll concede there. Lara Croft from the remake trilogy is specifically Lara at her most Survival Horror. The same game has a Legendary character from Rainbow Six so Lara at her weakest is A-OK.
Castlevania is horror adventure. It is literally about Dracula and a bloodline of vampire hunters. Does it have to be a jumpscare horror game to get a pass? Castlevania gave us by the far the best interpretation of Vlad we could've gotten so I'll hear no nonsense about it not fitting.
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You joke but I've always thought the indoraptor would make for a cool killer
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Thing is unless they wouldnt make him super strong he would feel like random guy in vader costume from temu, seriously his aura farming untill he gets stunned and dennied by pallet for 100 times.
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I was playing the Castlevania games as a six year old. They're not scary. They're adventure games first. There is no horror. My point is BHVR has already opened the floodgates. So what's the point of gatekeeping?
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I feel like there's just a bias against Star Wars. Because there is no way you seriously think Castlevania and Tomb Raider belong in the game, but Star Wars doesn't. I played Castlevania on my Gameboy Color. It was marketed towards kids. Know why? Cause it wasn't a horror game. No matter how much you try to claim it is, it has never been a horror game.
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Horror =/= Scary. As a child I got scared by the Hash Slinging Slasher from good ol' Bob l'éponge. Does he fit in DBD? By your scale he does because I got the willies.
People make this mistake over and over and over and then try to use it as ammunition as to why we deserve stuff like Star Wars in the Hall of Fame of Horror. Castlevania is a platformer action adventure game series that is all dressed in gothic horror and had more horror focused spin offs. Star Wars is a space opera designed to sell toys.
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The fact that there is a noticable portion of people who are more interested in bringing in non-horror pop culture IPs over getting more actual horror IPs, outside of the same top 5 most requested mainstream horror IPs, is honestly just kinda depressing and tells me that the playerbase doesn't really consist of that many horror fans to begin with.
For a game that wants to be the ''Hall of Fame of Horror'', bhvr should be focusing more on bringing in horror IPs outside of the big name ones. There's still plenty of horror cult classic IPs, indie horror IPs and modern horror IPs out there, who deserve a spot in the game more than any non-horror IPs ever will.
Every chapter so far has all been either horror, horror-connected or horror-adjacent, with the only exception being Tomb Raider, and even then, Lara fits the Survivor role, as she embodies the "ultimate survivor" archetype
I'll be severely disappointed, if the day ever comes, where DBD becomes fully like Fortnite & COD, and bhvr completely ditches the consistency of keeping chapters horror related to some level, be it directly horror or horror-adjacent, and instead start adding literally anything from any genre, without rhyme or reason.
All of which to say, i don't really want any mainline characters and stuff from non-horror IPs such as Star Wars, The Boys, Invincible, Marvel, DC Comics, etc. And if we ever were to get something from those IPs, the least bhvr can do is make them as horror as possible, but just in general, i'm not a fan of the idea of giving any non-horror IPs a chapter of their own.
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I mean, I don't even know why people are holding to the idea that DBD is a horror game. I feel like they've moved so far away from horror. They've already let so many non-horror franchises into DBD. Eventually people will accept Star Wars the way they accepted Castlevania and Tomb Raider. And lets not even talk about the fact that the most popular killer in the game isn't even from a horror franchise (Ghoul).
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darth vader isn't really horror since star wars is a action adventure sci-fi series than a horror series and jason is a legal minefield so realistically darth vader but i hope not
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