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Is it fair ?

rafajsp
rafajsp Member Posts: 475
edited February 2019 in General Discussions

Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

Thanks god console has names ...

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  • ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG
    ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG Member Posts: 359
    Yes but very toxic. 
  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,317
    edited February 2019

    @rafajsp said:
    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    Do we need to bust out the meme again where not every SWF is like this? I can agree that yes this is just one of the very few that actually are extremely toxic.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,317
    edited February 2019

    @HawkAyeTheNoo said:
    Toxic for running a perk which is readily available in the game, ok. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k95DSQbQmJY

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  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Who even uses DS any more? - People with an agenda who defend DS.

    The survivor meta seems to be set in stone at this point. I really think the idea of giving perks points depending on power is a good one.
  • BACKSTABBER
    BACKSTABBER Member Posts: 1,809

    @rafajsp said:
    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    well ur fairly ready with ur tier 3 enduring....

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,618

    Borrowed Time is funny against my Wraith.

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,286

    @homo_superior said:
    I see 2 kills, 2 escaped. You just showed very fair and balanced match.

    So if I facecamp 2 people its a fair game? Okay, thanks

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,286

    Thats a yikes set up.... I just block them on steam and dodge them in games

  • Naiad
    Naiad Member Posts: 194

    So you're a rank 6 and this is the first time you've seen this 'tryhard' setup? So what I can take from this is that it's actually very rare to see a 4 man SWF squad like this. You got 2 kills, devs say 2k average is balanced.

    Also let's look at 'tryhard'. They're using perks given to them by the game as are you. You're using the killer meta of BBQ and Ruin, you even threw Nurses and Enduring because they're some of the best killer perks and are available to you just like the survivor perks are available to them. They didn't even bring in 4 'OP' items, only one insta.

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  • HavelmomDaS1
    HavelmomDaS1 Member Posts: 1,948
    This is nothing, check this out:
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/46664/you-sweaty-tryhard
  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,307
    edited February 2019
    Nick said:

    Thats a yikes set up.... I just block them on steam and dodge them in games

    You know comments like this are part of the reason survivors had killer profiles removed from lobbies.

    @OP

    Its a game and anything in it within the rules is fair, you used speed add-ons for the chainsaw which for some is also deemed "tryhard" (hate that word), I find it funny with some of the replies calling the use of what's in the game toxic! So many people cry over iri add-ons, DS, NOED, Insta heal, moris etc.

    In the end you got two kills and two escaped, this is the balance point the devs look for, you did the right thing on good loop spots, it's best to find someone else in a less loopable area as you need to pressure the map not let one of them waste all your time.
  • Warlock_2020
    Warlock_2020 Member Posts: 1,867
    HawkAyeTheNoo said:
    Toxic for running a perk which is readily available in the game, ok. 
    I'm one of the biggest defenders of SWF on these boards, but even I know what this is when 6see it. Groups like these are why most SWFs are treated so poorly.  It is not the perks, it is how the group uses them. If you have never played these squads as killer, you have no frame of reference. 

    These are not common,  but are super annoying. 

    Tell me Hawk, do you feel the same about insidious camping, NOED, or ebony mori? I'm pretty sure you labeled a few killers as sweaty or toxic due to perk choices and how they played them.
  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,384

    @FireHazard said:

    @rafajsp said:
    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    Do we need to bust out the meme again where not every SWF is like this? I can agree that yes this is just one of the very few that actually are extremely toxic.

    Got you covered

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited February 2019
    I'm not complaining about kills or escapes.
    Just the setup.
    I play on console which makes offerings like Faint a pain in the @s$. Even the light one.
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited February 2019
    ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG said:
    Yes but very toxic. 
    Specially on console which even light Faint facks the killer's life.
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited February 2019

    homo_superior said:

    I see 2 kills, 2 escaped. You just showed very fair and balanced match.

    There was 2 kills and 2 escapes cuz they were bad and I never camp/tunnel.
    I'm not complaining about ratio.
    It's the setup ... 1 light Faint is just enough on console to blind the killer. Now imagine all these plus 4 DS.
    Really see a balance there bro ? Really ?
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475

    Went to play today.
    Lot of games with Purple, yellow and common Mist Faint ... guess what DC !
    FPS is already ######### for killers i don't need to play it worse.
    People on console just want to juke and this offer is a disaster.

  • TrAiNwReCk
    TrAiNwReCk Member Posts: 246

    Everything created for this game is based around balance. At least that's the intention except . . .

    cough Survive With Friends cough . . .

    Now I know what you're thinking "A Cry Baby Killer Main" How did I know? Anyone with a decent amount of common sense should understand SWF lacks fairness regarding the way this game is balanced. Now you might want to hold onto something, this could come as quite a shock from a supposed "Killer Main" but SWF should exist. It's good for friends who frequent games together, supposedly good for the Dead By Daylight community . . supposedly. Bottom line it is here to stay. I welcome SWF with open arms. Though there are times I say "O . M . . G . . . Again" and that's fine.

    Didn't mean to drag that out, but hope to assume a neutral standing with viewers of this thread as I play Killer and Survivor equally at rank 1. Don't worry rank is meaningless I could be as bad as a rank 20 for all I know.

    On topic finally,

    fact is that this game is balanced around 1 Killer and 4 'Random' Survivors. Any die hard SWF member wanting to argue this only needs to refer to the list of perks and the growing (note 'growing') amount of perks that a SWF group would find useless. The most recent example is the Aftercare perk. And perhaps a brand spanking new SWF to the game could make use of these kinds of perks as they learn the game, but as mentioned before this common knowledge requires you to have a "decent amount of common sense". If you still don't get it, best move along as you wont have anything of relevance to offer to this thread or you can stay and make a pointless post and the rest of us will have a chuckle.

    Onto balance finally,

    the idea is that within a SWF group, and only within a SWF group each member is limited to a unique perk and item. It's that simple. The only thing that cannot be balanced is the free flow of information through communication, but SWF has earned that right. They are a special bunch, had only the 4 'Random' Survivors had such technology before being sent into a horrific trial with any hope of surviving the the Killer, the game would be called Survive By Daylight. No Special SWF Unit armed with toolboxes with speed add-ons, sabotage squads 99% every hook using no mither ect. And no 4 man SC, DS, SB, BT . . . whatever combo of perks you can think of efficient SWF running.

    The problem unfortunately,

    I am not sure how this would be implemented.

    P.S. When I was a new killer I would always dodge SWF. Yes, I am ashamed. I see no point in dodging now, it's not a point of 'Get Good' but rather tolerance. I have plenty SWF in my killer games who seem to wreck my face only to fall hard at the end. And other SWF who . . wreck my face. You see SWF isn't OP (Though Unfair To How The Game Was Designed) the ability for SWF to coordinate not only through speech, but through running an 'efficient' perk/item/offering load out does make what SWF are able to accomplish without any effort OP.

    One more time,

    ANYONE WITH A DECENT AMOUNT OF COMMON SENSE can see I am shooting for fairness and balance. I don't want to nerf Survivors or buff Killers. I don't even want to get rid of SWF. The game is balanced, it's imperfect, but gets fine tuned now and then. Though the balance to SWF isn't made through a few perk tweaks or game play changes that give choice to dodge or DC when certain conditions are unsavory. The fact that SWF can and should be able to play together, under certain conditions across the board would give killers a fighting chance against those Special Ops SWF Units.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,618

    To answer the title: Yes.

  • ClogWench
    ClogWench Member Posts: 2,582
    If they had voice communication then no. If they didn't, then yes. That makes all the difference. Though obviously yes they probably did have voice comms. Voice communication is truly the make-or-break on whether a setup is fair or not.
  • AlwaysInAGoodShape
    AlwaysInAGoodShape Member Posts: 1,600

    @HawkAyeTheNoo said:
    Toxic for running a perk which is readily available in the game, ok. 

    Toxic =/= illegal.
    Running any perk in the game is legal.

  • TrAiNwReCk
    TrAiNwReCk Member Posts: 246

    @FireHazard said:

    @HawkAyeTheNoo said:
    Toxic for running a perk which is readily available in the game, ok. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k95DSQbQmJY

    What's interesting, is that just by using certain perks within an organized SWF group can be toxic. In order for a killer to be toxic they have to use ultra rare add-ons maybe even an eboni mori. That equates to 7k-14k BP for a killer to be toxic. Survivors can essentially be toxic for free, adding insta heals are considered Try Hard Toxic.

    At the end of the day Killer pays to be toxic.

    A good SWF group can be toxic for free.

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475

    @TrAiNwReCk said:

    @FireHazard said:

    @HawkAyeTheNoo said:
    Toxic for running a perk which is readily available in the game, ok. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k95DSQbQmJY

    What's interesting, is that just by using certain perks within an organized SWF group can be toxic. In order for a killer to be toxic they have to use ultra rare add-ons maybe even an eboni mori. That equates to 7k-14k BP for a killer to be toxic. Survivors can essentially be toxic for free, adding insta heals are considered Try Hard Toxic.

    At the end of the day Killer pays to be toxic.

    A good SWF group can be toxic for free.

    Well described.

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,317

    @TrAiNwReCk said:

    @FireHazard said:

    @HawkAyeTheNoo said:
    Toxic for running a perk which is readily available in the game, ok. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k95DSQbQmJY

    What's interesting, is that just by using certain perks within an organized SWF group can be toxic. In order for a killer to be toxic they have to use ultra rare add-ons maybe even an eboni mori. That equates to 7k-14k BP for a killer to be toxic. Survivors can essentially be toxic for free, adding insta heals are considered Try Hard Toxic.

    At the end of the day Killer pays to be toxic.

    A good SWF group can be toxic for free.

    @rafajsp said:

    @TrAiNwReCk said:

    @FireHazard said:

    @HawkAyeTheNoo said:
    Toxic for running a perk which is readily available in the game, ok. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k95DSQbQmJY

    What's interesting, is that just by using certain perks within an organized SWF group can be toxic. In order for a killer to be toxic they have to use ultra rare add-ons maybe even an eboni mori. That equates to 7k-14k BP for a killer to be toxic. Survivors can essentially be toxic for free, adding insta heals are considered Try Hard Toxic.

    At the end of the day Killer pays to be toxic.

    A good SWF group can be toxic for free.

    Well described.

    Indeed.

  • Gamzello
    Gamzello Member Posts: 828
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    I would have a heart attack while playing killer if I saw that. At least you got a 2k which is average kills.
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    @Gamzello said:
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !

    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...

    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    I would have a heart attack while playing killer if I saw that. At least you got a 2k which is average kills.

    while playing billy with enduring ruin and BBQ. Im not knocking him, I'm saying imagine this on ######### like legion/myers/pig/freddy or any of the other non-top tier killers.

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    @rafajsp said:
    There was 2 kills and 2 escapes cuz they were bad and I never camp/tunnel.
    I'm not complaining about ratio.
    It's the setup ... 1 light Faint is just enough on console to blind the killer. Now imagine all these plus 4 DS.
    Really see a balance there bro ? Really ?

    It's not only totally fine to tunnel against such a setup, you basically have to (if the survivors aren't super bad).

  • Gamzello
    Gamzello Member Posts: 828
    MhhBurgers said:

    @Gamzello said:
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !

    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...

    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    I would have a heart attack while playing killer if I saw that. At least you got a 2k which is average kills.

    while playing billy with enduring ruin and BBQ. Im not knocking him, I'm saying imagine this on ######### like legion/myers/pig/freddy or any of the other non-top tier killers.

    If this had happened with low/mid tier killers they would probably get at least a 1k or not even any kills at all. Especially with a lvl 3 DS which is a 4 second stun; while if others aren’t the obsession they can get DS at 35%.

    4 DSs, 4 seconds for each one that’s already 16 seconds wasted overall in total including a chase but by the time you’re unstunned you’ve already lost them.

    Yeah that sounds pretty broken even as a survivor main lmao.
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    Gamzello said:
    MhhBurgers said:

    @Gamzello said:
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !

    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...

    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    I would have a heart attack while playing killer if I saw that. At least you got a 2k which is average kills.

    while playing billy with enduring ruin and BBQ. Im not knocking him, I'm saying imagine this on ######### like legion/myers/pig/freddy or any of the other non-top tier killers.

    If this had happened with low/mid tier killers they would probably get at least a 1k or not even any kills at all. Especially with a lvl 3 DS which is a 4 second stun; while if others aren’t the obsession they can get DS at 35%.

    4 DSs, 4 seconds for each one that’s already 16 seconds wasted overall in total including a chase but by the time you’re unstunned you’ve already lost them.

    Yeah that sounds pretty broken even as a survivor main lmao.
    Indeed DS was always broken.
    Sadly managers of this game dont care about balances and that's why this game is dying.
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited February 2019
    MhhBurgers said:

    @Gamzello said:
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !

    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...

    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    I would have a heart attack while playing killer if I saw that. At least you got a 2k which is average kills.

    while playing billy with enduring ruin and BBQ. Im not knocking him, I'm saying imagine this on ######### like legion/myers/pig/freddy or any of the other non-top tier killers.

    Just imagine bro.
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    Gamzello said:
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    I would have a heart attack while playing killer if I saw that. At least you got a 2k which is average kills.
    Only cuz they were bad, the last guy almost killed himself on hook lol.
    I mean ... I'm devotion 6 and i know how things works and I was just ranking up and never saw this ######### swf build before.
  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104

    @rafajsp said:
    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    Honestly, the only one that pisses me off is the one coward at the bottom:
    Dead Hard, Adrenaline, Decisive Strike, and an Instaheal. If you are so unbelievably bad that you need 5 extra chances just git gud. I'm surprised you got them first.

  • HeroLives
    HeroLives Member Posts: 3,234
    Okay but I see you’re also running demon perks as a killer. Pot meet kettle 
  • tt_ivi_99
    tt_ivi_99 Member Posts: 1,463
    Play Billy/Nurse with Broken perks and add-ons and a Red Mori, that's what I do. No SWF players are getting out of my games alive.
  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,520
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    you're playing ruin instasaw billy you shouldn't be having problems
  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,520
    TrAiNwReCk said:

    @FireHazard said:

    @HawkAyeTheNoo said:
    Toxic for running a perk which is readily available in the game, ok. 

    image

    What's interesting, is that just by using certain perks within an organized SWF group can be toxic. In order for a killer to be toxic they have to use ultra rare add-ons maybe even an eboni mori. That equates to 7k-14k BP for a killer to be toxic. Survivors can essentially be toxic for free, adding insta heals are considered Try Hard Toxic.

    At the end of the day Killer pays to be toxic.

    A good SWF group can be toxic for free.

    bloodpoints are not a problem if you're playing killer lol 14k is just a 4th of what you'd get from 1 match. not including a pudding
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    HeroLives said:
    Okay but I see you’re also running demon perks as a killer. Pot meet kettle 
    Well, against SWF it's fine to at least have some tracking ?
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    artist said:
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    you're playing ruin instasaw billy you shouldn't be having problems
    I don't.
    Read the title.
    Not about my build, it's about their scum build.
    As far as I know I'm not running anything besides some tracking as I have no communication with survivors ;)
  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,520
    rafajsp said:
    artist said:
    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    you're playing ruin instasaw billy you shouldn't be having problems
    I don't.
    Read the title.
    Not about my build, it's about their scum build.
    As far as I know I'm not running anything besides some tracking as I have no communication with survivors ;)
    is it fair? is it fair for you to have this build in the hundreds of other games you dont go against this? is it fair for them to be running 4 ds against all the killers who don't run all the ######### you do? id say no for both but it doesn't seem like either side cares
  • iceman2kx
    iceman2kx Member Posts: 462

    I bet the killer had a lot of fun that match.

    Any killer main who has played for some time will tell you this isn't very common. As a matter of fact, the chances of running into a SWF that is highly coordinated is just unlikely. This just isn't that type of game. If I have friends and I am trying to competitively play this game, it dang sure isn't gonna be this joke of a game. Rather arena in WoW or something.

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    Peasant said:

    @rafajsp said:
    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !
    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...
    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    Honestly, the only one that pisses me off is the one coward at the bottom:
    Dead Hard, Adrenaline, Decisive Strike, and an Instaheal. If you are so unbelievably bad that you need 5 extra chances just git gud. I'm surprised you got them first.

    Yeah that's exactly what I think:

    2 hooks, DS, DH, Adrenaline and Instaheal.

    6 chances !!! Counting as I don't camp or tunnel.

    It's too much ...

    Thanks I found another game, this one is not worth anymore.

    Not because of this game, which was on last week or so, but because the game became not enjoyable.

    Thanks guys.

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited February 2019

    @artist said:
    rafajsp said:


    artist said:


    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !

    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...

    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    you're playing ruin instasaw billy you shouldn't be having problems

    I don't.
    Read the title.
    Not about my build, it's about their scum build.
    As far as I know I'm not running anything besides some tracking as I have no communication with survivors ;)

    is it fair? is it fair for you to have this build in the hundreds of other games you dont go against this? is it fair for them to be running 4 ds against all the killers who don't run all the ######### you do? id say no for both but it doesn't seem like either side cares

    So I'm supposed to run a perkeless build vs 4 survivors no matter if they are or not swf.
    Ah ... maybe I should run Monstrous Shrine, Insidous, Territorial Imperative and Distressing, looks good.

    Thanks I pass.

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475

    @iceman2kx said:
    I bet the killer had a lot of fun that match.

    Any killer main who has played for some time will tell you this isn't very common. As a matter of fact, the chances of running into a SWF that is highly coordinated is just unlikely. This just isn't that type of game. If I have friends and I am trying to competitively play this game, it dang sure isn't gonna be this joke of a game. Rather arena in WoW or something.

    Imagine this on console which I play on.
    LUL

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    Play Billy/Nurse with Broken perks and add-ons and a Red Mori, that's what I do. No SWF players are getting out of my games alive.

    I wish I could have the courage.
    But instead I keep my Mori's unnused, got almost a hundred LUL.

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,520
    rafajsp said:

    @artist said:
    rafajsp said:


    artist said:


    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !

    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...

    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    you're playing ruin instasaw billy you shouldn't be having problems

    I don't.
    Read the title.
    Not about my build, it's about their scum build.
    As far as I know I'm not running anything besides some tracking as I have no communication with survivors ;)

    is it fair? is it fair for you to have this build in the hundreds of other games you dont go against this? is it fair for them to be running 4 ds against all the killers who don't run all the ######### you do? id say no for both but it doesn't seem like either side cares

    So I'm supposed to run a perkeless build vs 4 survivors no matter if they are or not swf.
    Ah ... maybe I should run Monstrous Shrine, Insidous, Territorial Imperative and Distressing, looks good.

    Thanks I pass.

    exact same could be said for the survivors buddy, try not to run "op" ######### if ur gonna complain about "op" ######### is what I'm getting at
  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475

    @artist said:
    rafajsp said:

    @artist said:

    rafajsp said:

    artist said:



rafajsp said:

Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !

I've never seen this tryhard level before ...

And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

Thanks god console has names ...





you're playing ruin instasaw billy you shouldn't be having problems

I don't.

    Read the title.

    Not about my build, it's about their scum build.

    As far as I know I'm not running anything besides some tracking as I have no communication with survivors ;)

    is it fair? is it fair for you to have this build in the hundreds of other games you dont go against this? is it fair for them to be running 4 ds against all the killers who don't run all the ######### you do? id say no for both but it doesn't seem like either side cares

    So I'm supposed to run a perkeless build vs 4 survivors no matter if they are or not swf.

    Ah ... maybe I should run Monstrous Shrine, Insidous, Territorial Imperative and Distressing, looks good.

    Thanks I pass.

    exact same could be said for the survivors buddy, try not to run "op" ######### if ur gonna complain about "op" ######### is what I'm getting at

    Yes you are right and I'm wrong.
    I'm running op ######### vs 4 poor survivors.
    Guess I have to git gud.

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,520
    artist said:
    rafajsp said:

    @artist said:
    rafajsp said:


    artist said:


    rafajsp said:

    Now i understand why Killers dodge SWFs !

    I've never seen this tryhard level before ...

    And abuse of strong loops (which i refused to chase for obvious reasons.)

    Thanks god console has names ...

    you're playing ruin instasaw billy you shouldn't be having problems

    I don't.
    Read the title.
    Not about my build, it's about their scum build.
    As far as I know I'm not running anything besides some tracking as I have no communication with survivors ;)

    is it fair? is it fair for you to have this build in the hundreds of other games you dont go against this? is it fair for them to be running 4 ds against all the killers who don't run all the ######### you do? id say no for both but it doesn't seem like either side cares

    So I'm supposed to run a perkeless build vs 4 survivors no matter if they are or not swf.
    Ah ... maybe I should run Monstrous Shrine, Insidous, Territorial Imperative and Distressing, looks good.

    Thanks I pass.

    exact same could be said for the survivors buddy, try not to run "op" ######### if ur gonna complain about "op" ######### is what I'm getting at
    quotes are there because ruin in itself isnt op, just stupid strong on top tier killers. instasaw still pretty dumb tho