How's that sabo still get so much hate?

White_Owl

Lately I decided to get the Dismantle achievement, thinking "what could go wrong?", so during matches I go around sabotaging random hooks. The amount of times I get tunneled (while the whole team is rushing gens most of the times), sometimes even BMed, is astounding. Not counting all the moris I get when killers see more than one toolbox (but I guess that is more about gen rushing, but still).
Sabo is already ######### as a solo survivor, and all it gives is extra attention from the killer even if you're not hindering them at all (and it's clear when it's the case). Now I get why saboteurs are more extinct than dinosaurs and people would rather rush gens.

ps at this point I think sabotaging hooks shouldn't give a notification (at least as an effect of Saboteur, which would fit Jake as the quiet guy)

The_Crusader

Like flashlights I think people assume you're trying to be toxic, because sabo and flashlights get abused by toxic players.

PhantomMask20763

I know it doesn't affect me that much when I'm playing killer but for some reason I just hate it when your breaking muh hooks. I'm not even sure why. It's like just hearing the noise notification triggers something in my mind and says, get that guy on a hook, as if the entity was speaking to me directly. I dont really tunnel the person that's breaking muh hooks but I try to kill them as soon as possible. I guess some people find it more annoying than others. I wouldnt be against removing the noise notification if you're running saboteur though, would make it better for everyone in the long run

Vietfox

I'm fine with sabo, prevents genrush.

JanTheMan

PhantomMask20763 said:

It's like just hearing the noise notification triggers something in my mind and says, get that guy on a hook, as if the entity was speaking to me directly. 

You okay, my guy? I heard The Doctor was offering therapy sessions.

HavelmomDaS1

Hooks are the only real thing to apply pressure on the other survivors who aren't in chase. It's also the only objective of the killer. Sabotaging removes the pressure + as killer you can't make steps forward to kill someone. Slugging is no real pressure btw.
That's the issue if sabotaging killers have and in hands of SWF it's really frustrating to verse 

Milo

Well if someone is destroying a hook right in my face they will get downed (eventually cuz i suck) and put on the hook. I would say im changing target (if im chasing someone already)

PhantomMask20763

JanTheMan said:

PhantomMask20763 said:

It's like just hearing the noise notification triggers something in my mind and says, get that guy on a hook, as if the entity was speaking to me directly. 

You okay, my guy? I heard The Doctor was offering therapy sessions.

Yeah I'm all good lol, just overexaggerating it

White_Owl

@Milo said:
Well if someone is destroying a hook right in my face they will get downed (eventually cuz i suck) and put on the hook. I would say im changing target (if im chasing someone already)

Actually it happens also when I'm sabotaging minding my own busieness, often they follow the notification and obsessively try to find me.

@HavelmomDaS1 said:
Hooks are the only real thing to apply pressure on the other survivors who aren't in chase. It's also the only objective of the killer. Sabotaging removes the pressure + as killer you can't make steps forward to kill someone. Slugging is no real pressure btw.
That's the issue if sabotaging killers have and in hands of SWF it's really frustrating to verse 

Hooks respawn, and it's not true that slugging is no real pressure. Defending generators is a way bigger priority than defending hooks, since by the time you tunnel the guy going for hooks the other 3 survivors are free to repair gens. It really doesn't do any good to the killer.

HavelmomDaS1

White_Owl said:

@Milo said:
Well if someone is destroying a hook right in my face they will get downed (eventually cuz i suck) and put on the hook. I would say im changing target (if im chasing someone already)

Actually it happens also when I'm sabotaging minding my own busieness, often they follow the notification and obsessively try to find me.

@HavelmomDaS1 said:
Hooks are the only real thing to apply pressure on the other survivors who aren't in chase. It's also the only objective of the killer. Sabotaging removes the pressure + as killer you can't make steps forward to kill someone. Slugging is no real pressure btw.
That's the issue if sabotaging killers have and in hands of SWF it's really frustrating to verse 

Hooks respawn, and it's not true that slugging is no real pressure. Defending generators is a way bigger priority than defending hooks, since by the time you tunnel the guy going for hooks the other 3 survivors are free to repair gens. It really doesn't do any good to the killer.

Slugging is no real pressure, the survivors can still work on gens and don't have to worry about a "second stage" like on hook. A hooked survivor forces at least one survivor off the gen to rescue, while as killer you can chase someone else. This means 3 people are not working on gens.

But if you slug, there are 2 people off gens at best. The slugged guy can crawl closer to someone, gets picked after a gen got finished you won nearly nothing from it as killer.

White_Owl

@HavelmomDaS1 said:
White_Owl said:

@Milo said:

Well if someone is destroying a hook right in my face they will get downed (eventually cuz i suck) and put on the hook. I would say im changing target (if im chasing someone already)

Actually it happens also when I'm sabotaging minding my own busieness, often they follow the notification and obsessively try to find me.

@HavelmomDaS1 said:

Hooks are the only real thing to apply pressure on the other survivors who aren't in chase. It's also the only objective of the killer. Sabotaging removes the pressure + as killer you can't make steps forward to kill someone. Slugging is no real pressure btw.

That's the issue if sabotaging killers have and in hands of SWF it's really frustrating to verse 

Hooks respawn, and it's not true that slugging is no real pressure. Defending generators is a way bigger priority than defending hooks, since by the time you tunnel the guy going for hooks the other 3 survivors are free to repair gens. It really doesn't do any good to the killer.

Slugging is no real pressure, the survivors can still work on gens and don't have to worry about a "second stage" like on hook. A hooked survivor forces at least one survivor off the gen to rescue, while as killer you can chase someone else. This means 3 people are not working on gens.

But if you slug, there are 2 people off gens at best. The slugged guy can crawl closer to someone, gets picked after a gen got finished you won nearly nothing from it as killer.

I've seen (and done) impressive slug plays, it depends a lot on the situation.

ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG

I'm sure your teamates love you

BACKSTABBER

this game is about killing and therefore hate is involved, end of story

NurseMainBTW

Sabotaging is a risky strategy and requires both time and good reading ability.

Toxic? Only for people who are not familiar with it. If you see a survivor crouched near the hook you're going, just turn around. it's not that hard.

Bongbingbing

Sabo wouldn't have irritated me before the hook changes but since the change if I can't get to a Hook because of sabo it can be very annoying, especially if the person has wiggle DS.

Just put yourself in the killers shoes, Can you blame the killer for trying to get you out of the game quickly if your saboing all the hooks?

Boss

I wouldn't care, at least you're not on a Generator then.

Warlock_2020

I don't focus on the sabotage artist unless he is 99'ing the hooks and then following for the save. Then I'll slug and wait for others to save. Down a couple more, hook the sabo guy, hook others and soft camp till stage 2 on mr sabo. If he continues after that, I'll finish him as a priority. 

I don't think of hook sabotage as a huge concern or reason to get frustrated.  I know survivors have dailies that require it and it is what it is. Sabo squads and one survivor sabotaging are two very different things.