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Killer sided
Considering the upcoming Terrifier, which allow the killer to give survivors the middle finger, and the Judgment, which penalize survivors for “t-bagging,” I believe that DBD is currently too killer-focused, and survivors should receive at least minor improvements to balance things out
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It fits both the killers and they don't affect the gameplay much (buffs art a bit as it helps level up his weapons but it's a slow system so he needs it and judgements system can be avoided very easily by just not t-bagging or doing it far away), I have seen mostly fun and good interactions with the new taunts on Art and judgements system can be easily avoided, what's wrong with punishing BM?
survivors should receive at least minor improvements
Survivors did get an communication wheel
balance things out
Balance the BM?
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New killers being released on the stronger side isn't exactly unusual, and it certainly doesn't hurt DLC sales.
If SoloQ feels miserable, just stop forcing yourself to play it. Switch to killer, find a coordinated SWF, or simply take a break and enjoy other games.
If enough people stop playing survivor, killer queues will eventually get longer. Let's see how happy people are with their new DLC when they're waiting 30+ minutes for a match.
Sometimes the best way to deal with an unenjoyable experience is to simply stop participating. The problem will eventually sort itself out.
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Feature request, press 3 to flip off or moon for survivors.
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there is some nuance though because - for art atleast - the taunt is part of his mechanics and his gameplay, and is sometimes unavoidable (IE you hook a tortured survivor- causing Art to auto-flip off the hooked survivor); VS survivors intentionally choosing to BM' for the sole purpose of trying to annoy or harass the killer.
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I get that it's thematically appropriate for both killers and I approve that line of thought, but the sheer timing is awful as it does look like they're denying one and encouraging the other.
One is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action…and I'm kinda waiting to see if BHVR will go with that…
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It does literally fit both killers, survivors BM all the time and the judgement system does not prevent it, he will probably be the first and the last killer with something like this as he is the only killer it's fits with.
If there would a system that punishes BM on survivor side then It will buff all survivors while the killer version is only in judgement.
Arts level up system is slow so he needs additional tokens that can only be earned if the killer damages the survivor, then applies torture and then downs with a different weapon to get rewarded so art needs to hit the survivor 3 times (like nemesis, if the weapons are not upgraded yet and after upgrading 1 weapon, it's harder to upgrade others) so the chase lasts at least 24 seconds as he needs to use the bag 3 times.
Also ghostface and pig can t-bag.
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…Mate think of it this way
Judgement can punish survivors for taunting
Art gets bonuses for taunting survivors
Survivors taunting killer=bad
Killer taunting survivor=ok
…That's how it looks to those not willfully blind. It's not ANYTHING to do with your last paragraph.
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It's one thing that it fits the killer, which I agree with. Its another to name the score action for taunting "teabag this" when you could have named it literally anything else. This isn't about killer power or buffs or anything like that, its about the clear mindset the developers had when they created this and judgements interaction with BM. Survivor BM bad, killer BM ok.
(Though are we seriously going to call creating a punishment for an unnecessary action the killer could just not do a buff to survivor, like really?).
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Taunting in DbD should be treated differently for killers and survivors for the simple reason that there are 4 survivors and just 1 killer so the odds of having a bming survivor in a match is much higher than a bming killer. It seems like every time I lose a game as killer there's a survivor who t-bags at the exit gate whereas as survivor I almost never see humping or hitting on hook from killers.
I'd go into more detail, but whatever, it's all going to be deleted in a few hours.
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(Though are we seriously going to call creating a punishment for an unnecessary action the killer could just not do a buff to survivor, like really?).
This would be a thing for all survivors while rewarding the BM and the punishment of BM is limited only to 2 killers is what I am saying, like why are we complaining about judgement punishing "unnecessary action" the survivor "could just not do".
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community full of soft people that cry endlessly about tbagging
Do you want to talk about the other part of the community full of soft people that cry endlessly about killer BMing?
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killers are Dungeon Masters who set the tone of the match…not a big deal
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And that makes it a survivor buff because? If you just don't BM then nothing happens, same argument as you are using for judgment. I have previously commented that I thought the BM debuff against judgement was funny. I agree that survivors can just not do it.
However, Art's taunt changes the issue. The devs are clearly treating BM differently one side to the other. I have always figured the devs are neutral and just want to wring as much money out of both sides as they can but the treatment of BM on each side clearly showcases a killer sided mindset, its a clear showcase of favoritism.
Oh look, its you talking about it.
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Agreeing with @Rulebreaker said - the timing of these being close together is really weird.
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Are you really that ridiculous or are you doing it on purpose?
While there were complaints about Killers BMing, there were nowhere near as many as Killers complaining about teabagging. There were several threads each week that Killers wanted Survivors punished who teabag at the Exit Gates or that they want some way of ending the game without seeing the Survivors teabag. Because apparently people who teabag are worse than Hitler and Killers could not stomach to see someone press a button.
Heck, we had this "argument" all the time when people said that bleedouts for 4 minutes are not fun. Killers (who btw. want to be respected and feared, lol) came in and said that it is the same as EGC. They compared 4 minutes of doing nothing with 2 minutes of voluntarily (because again, button pressing is bad) wasting their time, since they dont want to force people out of the Exit Gates.
EDIT: Just to make clear, I dont even care if Art is flipping off Survivors. But it is just strange that we go from a Killer who punishes Survivor BM to a Killer who rewards Killer BM. Falls in line with strange Patchnotes which seem to remove any fault from Killers.
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I know that killer players complain about constant t-bagging but I have seen lots of survivors compare humping to sexual assault and also tunneling + slugging is called toxic which is basically BM and there's so many posts complaining about them.
You are just completely ignoring the survivor side complains.
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To throw in my anecdotal experience, I see a LOT of survivors complaining about killer toxicity, far more than I see killers complaining about survivor toxicity. That could be because there are significantly more survivor players than killer players, but regardless, I see those complaints much more.
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Pls explain what you mean, I don't like BM but it happens a lot and i will BM back if someone does it to me but it shouldn't be taken seriously in any way.
If you are talking about tunneling and slugging then there's nothing wrong with that as it's the in-game strategies which are supposed to help you win but still can be countered and cause someone to lose the match, like if you have a full gen rushing build (it's a strategy as well) then your chase will be shorter which means you are only useful in one thing.
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OP makes a variant of the same braindead type of post that has been around for 10 years. At this point it's SPAM.
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thats 90% of the topics here mate
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Strangely fitting that the very last non-farewell post is one such as this.
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One is worse than the other though
Of course you would say that, tbagging happens in any multiplayer game with crouching and only one side can crouch in dbd, killers found another way to BM survivors.
They do replicate sexual acts but taking them as seriously as one just means you shouldn't be really playing multiplayer games and I have only seen one side comparing and complaining about this "sexual act".
Survivors can't act when being BMed. Killers can.
So you are saying only one side can BM?
You can't really be saying complaining about tunneling and slugging is the same as complaining about tbagging.
BM literally means toxicity and a lot of the times survivors calling them toxic and using the same logic means is the same as the other.
Tunneling and slugging alter the gameplay loop. They ruin matches for people. They are bad for the game.
Gen rushing alters the gameplay loop and ruins matches for people. It is bad for the game as well but I think if those strategies were actually game breaking then I think the game would be dead by now and both sides have strong things to counter them.
Tbagging doesn't effect the gameplay, it just effects losers' minds.
Same for humping, they are an act of disrespect so why do survivors have to do it every single game, like I don't really care and I don't start doing it cuz I have nothing to do but I will BM them if they BM me and I get called many things in egc for doing exactly the same thing they are doing.
survivors just want the right to play a full match; killers get mad when the survivor crouches too much.
I want the right to do my objective as killer which is to kil; survivors get mad when the killer kills.
somehow you think these complaints are equivalent
I don't really think that but survivors think that strategies are toxic and what's actually toxic (BM) is the same using that logic.
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You are REALLY taking everything out of context. So your doing so on purpose for some unforseen reasons. Or kicks and giggles. Your choice.
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