Announcement regarding the future of the Dead by Daylight Forums:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/472588/future-of-dead-by-daylight-forums The forums will officially be closed from the 1st November 2026.
Incredibly disappointing to see from you
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Says the person crying over those people. Yeah, you're totally not as sensitive as them. 😂
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You really think this is about your streamer and you are playing the white Knight for them?
Its about a BHVR employee speaking for the company while going against their established values, Doing that while drunk and in their free time, giving out stuff without appropriate authorization and the Company staying silent.
No one even cares about the streamer like that. Not even the streamer himself seems to care..
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Honestly it seems like the same people here most of the time I poke my head in here, people who are the victim to everything but at the same time relish harming people who they disagree with.
It's the exact same as the dbd gameplay dynamic, there's something disturbing about the DBD community, has been for a while, it just draws out the nutters and they cause a ruckus when they get together.
I remember when video games used to be for everyone to have fun. These people aren't lefty's, they're a loud group of crybabies that have never been told no, entitled and demanding and they shouldn't ever be taken seriously.
Playing the victim isn't a lefty thing, these people belong in an insane asylum.
I think a lot of it is about attention, so they pretend to be empathetic to marginalized groups so they can speak in their behalf, often driving division even further than if they didn't get involved at all.
Dishonest vultures, best thing about it is that whatever they touch eventually decays because they don't know how to create only destroy so under their misery they can be decent people once they learn their lesson.
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The vote down button is generally a good indication that the person is a crybaby and actually the bigot trying to project what they are onto other random people.
So a little advice… take a long hard look in the mirror.
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Your gonna need to follow your own advice here before others do
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Who exactly is playing victim here though?
You are describing the exact behaviour of some here but then get everything convoluted and blame idek who
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I really don't care about the streamer or what BHVR does at the end of the day but Mooks highlighted the problem and saying "we can take the heat" is what pissed people off. It's also a middle finger to other CCs who still support this game. So yeah the ones saying woke and other ######### can ######### off with their own victim complex.
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I don't know the streamer but from what I've seen, I can understand why people are upset with the situation as it's very unprofessional to use the official account under intoxication and conflicting with the supportive stance that Behaviour claims but I honestly think calling for someone to get sacked is pretty extreme - surely a public apology and reprimanding is enough?
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Have you considered the idea that it's other users leaving the down votes and not myself.
Yes people do disagree with your point other than me, many do not care about the current thing you pearl clutchers are getting worked up about.
Of course you haven't because 99% of people on forums or any social media for Dbd and most other video game communities are hypocrites who again are the victim of other people having their own opinions.
The forum closing will be a much needed break from the toxic community that for years the Devs have completely catered to.
Maybe after the forums close we can finally see behaviour no longer held hostage by a small but loud portion of it's community that it's catered for for years.
Shut up and just play the game.
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⬆️🔥
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Much better response than the first one, for sure.
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As has been told to you before, take your own advice
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To be honest, there are very few job roles where it's acceptable for you to be drunk. I'm not sure where you're from, but where I'm from that'd get you terminated from the most bog-standard office job that isn't even customer facing, even if you make no mistakes while under the influence.
If you're using an official account, you are representing the company and its interests to the public. Doing so while drunk is presenting a serious liability to that company, especially if you were drunk enough for it to impair your judgement sufficiently to take an action you allege is counter to your sober sensibilities. That's saying nothing of the known conflict between the attitude and views of the streamer in question and those BHVR supposedly espouses.
I'm not even necessarily pro-firing. I think there absolutely should be changes to how BHVR let their public image get (mis)handled, and if they decide that's a firing that's their response and I'd not shed a tear, but I'm not specifically going to call for that.
Also, to some of you:
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I'm UK based and I've seen and heard of occasions when an employee has attended work while either drunk or hungover and not had their contract terminated but I must admit, those roles weren't as exposed to the entire world and by no means do I think it's acceptable to represent a company is such a state, I just think that a re-education and likely a change in role is a much more considerate approach
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I'm UK too and someone literally just got fired for it this week in my office haha. I guess it depends on the company. Hungover people all the time, sure, but actively drunk is gross misconduct by our policy.
Were I ultimately to make the call here, I'd go with not just training the employee but instead a very clear "If you do anything even slightly comparable to this again you're out."5 -
Throwing Mandy under the bus when they should be defending her to the hilt. Despicable company.
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You think the dozen people currently active on the forums got BHVR to make this decision and not the hundreds on Twitter, Reddit, and Discord? You think the forums has THAT much of an impact over those platforms that will still exist once the forums close?
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its definitely context dependent but both of my previous roles were customer-facing and in both of them people had gotten fired for being drunk. employers can easily argue its a breach of the relationship of mutual trust and confidence and dismissal for such is in no way considered substantively unfair for the range of reasonable responses test (though procedural unfairness can and often does happen in cases of drunk dismissal). uk, england specifically
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Exactly, like I saw someone on TT that almost purely covers celebrities make something about it, and I was like wow this is much bigger than I thought. Like it’s left the gaming sphere at this point.
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oh no a person has to… face the consequences of their own actions.
Which we don’t even know what they are.
Why should the company have to defend an employee when that employee directly acted against company processes and values?
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I mean it's kinda funny that BHVR shot themselves in the foot either way because the streamer didn't even like the game and went "how is this still alive". Amusing.
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I was surprised to see IGN and other gaming media cover it but someone outside gaming it must've been trending on those socials. The articles I saw used mainly quotes from twitter, some from the dbd discord. No one is coming to the forums to hear our thoughts, especially after making the decision to close it down.
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but why are you still not explaining it?
See, for me, a 5 year old is someone that would just call others freaks instead of having a conversation.
Lets make it simple: Which concrete acts here have i shown that would in your eyes be something that a 5 year old would be doing?
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yeah I was surprised too and a little mortified tbh bc her following is almost 50k ppl, she’s sitting at a little over 48k. She covers Fortnite sometimes, but like I said she’s heavily pop culture centered and celebrity centered.
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The dbd community is toxic across all those platforms but the forums especially seem to be the biggest echo chamber because people who just play the game casually aren't here everyday, only those who pretty much share the same political beliefs and have the same distain for people who they disagree with.
That's who behaviour has to set its core values from.
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you know the forums were meant to be closed as of 2 days ago, right? seems like a terrible place to derive your core audience from
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Please, don't let a troll make your last words on this forum be an argument. Lets let him scream in his bubble alone and not acknowledge him.
Someone defending that kind of conduct and using such childish insults when their opinion is challenged does not deserve time and energy.
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Which is why everyone should get used to opinions they don't like because it gets easier for ordinary people who just play the game to voice their opinion when it comes to other social media platforms.
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Every online pvp game has a toxic community. Nothing overly special for DbD.
Every Social platform has their own echo chamber(s) as well, a specific streamers community is am echo chamber, a specific subreddit is an echo chamber. The key would be to have a broader access to different communities and get feedback from all your players. Explicitly wishing one specific part of the community to be excluded seems very arrogant.
also, no the political beliefs are not the same for all the forum members at all. And they are especially not really discussed or Shared here either… You are just assuming (and probably confusing topics here)People who play casually are not here every day, but they are here some times - especially when the devs used this platform as their official one to gather feedback regarding PTBs and all. And again, this isnt Special to the Forums, but to all online spaces to discuss the game. Why would casual players engage with DbD daily on other platforms?
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To be honest, this is demonstrably untrue. This forum is among the most argumentatitive ones I've partook in. It's anything but an echo chamber in terms of opinion.
Politically, there's variety too. I find it interesting when people start shouting echo chamber in response to certain views receiving pushback though. I thought the discourse and marketplace of ideas was a good thing?6 -
Thanks!
But its just so fun when they don’t even have one rational argument and they are literally crying like children and then project so hard
I really give them a chance to explain themselves but they just cant.
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Honestly with how your acting, nope. Not that I'd particularly care beyond trying to get 1k downvotes before the forums burn. So I'm going to keep thinking that it's all you~
Now if you're willing to think things through, I'm more talking about how you need to look in the mirror. You're talking about how video games are for everyone to have fun and yet your complaining about the people who are against supporting someone who apparently has a slur day and a raving community who will make sure others WON'T have fun. You yourself are looking for attention by posting things like this and very likely relishing any reaction you get, hence why your second post (the one I first quoted) mentions that downvotes button.
Then here's THIS post, one where you call the community toxic, which it is mind you, while simultaneously SHOWING your own toxicity.
YOUR actions are hypocritical to your words.
Now be a good duck and sit.
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yeah see I was raised to be kind, but not tolerate when someone starts it and is being unkind. IE the paradox of tolerance which is essentially this : if a tolerant society extends unlimited tolerance to everyone—including those who are intolerant—then the intolerant will eventually dominate or destroy the tolerant society
So I hit back, they seem to like being talked down to, who am I to smink shame? See the way they complimented my comebacks. They’re into it, the audacity to call us the freaks though is wild, since I know a mommy/daddy issue not addressed in therapy when I see one.
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So you think BHVR sets their core values to the forums while at the same time made the decision to close the forums? You don't think twitter, dbd discord, reddit, tiktok or even the dbd content creators are the ones BHVR would listen to/set their core values. You think BHVR listens to the forums more than any of those other platforms? The other platforms that get quoted by gaming news in their articles that people outside the DBD community see and can actually impact sales from new players? I'm sorry but thats not how businesses work, especially ones with shareholders.
If the forums were even a fraction as impactful as you seem to believe they are then Pulsars 82 page 4k+ console optimization thread that lasted 3 years would've resulted in BHVR optimizing console not making a statement after 3 years that it was not going to happen.
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this is the longest november 1st ever
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Yeah. I didn't want my last exchanges here to be negative ones, or else I would have had something to say about all this. But I fully expected this place to be gone by now. We shouldn't even be here!
Seems like half of us are tearing strips off each other, the other half is in the off topic music thread posting songs while waiting for the end and the community managers are (presumably) elsewhere dealing with the firestorm raging through the rest of the community. I think they've forgotten about us.
What a sad, strange, chaotic end to the forums.
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So you think someone sharing an opinion is toxic.
That says exactly everything.
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The problem is that mentally ill people will always find something to argue amongst themselves about whilst being in an echo chamber.
Doxxing for example isn't a product of the marketplace of ideas. It's entitled brats thinking their voice is louder than it really is.
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Right okay, and who's doing that here?
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Only something like 0.03% of dbd players engaged on the forums and it's probably very similar across all other social media so why do you expect that minority to be the majority of the player base which behaviour should have as it's core community base.
To say who am I to tell them how to set their core values is to say to the player base that play the game "The game isn't made for you"
I hope this game doesn't die because it holds all the entitled brats in place.
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Duuuude THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOUR DOING.
Like really, follow your own advice little squirrel.
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I bet that voice in your head is so loud you don’t even like being around yourself. Worry less about other people’s mental state. Rulebreaker was right, the mirror dawg, you should look in it. There’s tons of studies about this behavior and the prefrontal cortex. Consider it maybe?
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the fact that you resort to calling those who are trying to foster a more progressive and positive community "mentally ill" says a lot about your character and, in turn, directly contradicts the very thing you're trying to argue for.
based on everything you've said, i recognize that you're aligning yourself with the people of the same category actively that touts "freedom of speech" yet will immediately complain that we're unable to handle diverse opinions when we ourselves are of a diverse opinion just like you, and actively try to have a conversation about it. suddenly communication is a problem because you do not agree with what is said.notice how people of your kind also only come out when someone braver and more outrageous than you stirs up something. all of a sudden its the same "mental illness, 'conversationally oppressive'" rhetoric spewing out of your mouths over and over. it's almost as if you, yourself, are in an echo chamber. since it seems like you want to hear things outside of the "echo chamber", i will happily voice my opinion about you and people who are like you far outside of the topic of the conversation.
please understand you are the spineless, socially unsound person you are complaining about that contributes to poor behavior in the community. you are part of the problem. the community will vastly improve without people like you. everything about those like you greatly dampens the possibility of trying to foster a space where people can just exist in peace. it is people like you that cause these arguments and then disappear because you've had your taste of discourse all in the name of always being "correct" and the "morally just" in the conversation.there is no place for you in this community, and that goes for everyone else who dedicates their existence to "owning it to others" who do not morally align with you while simultaneously trying to play victim because you can't cope with perceptions that are different from yours.
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I saw Balrog moving stuff yesterday so BHVR is aware we're alive still. Dunno if they'll say anything about it.
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yeah, can you back up your claim of that number? Seems like you just made that up.
but also.. where have i ever said i think the forum Users make up a majority of players?! What are you taking right now and can you share please?
Literally making stuff up and getting angry about your imaginations..
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very rare W from bhvr xD but they scared and go back, but hey the whole gaming community (from alot of games) coming togehter and making fun of this smarty smart community and there devs hahahaha i love it! i said it very often "bhvr is lucky other community would destroying them in pieces for what they do" bugs over bugs, abusing the frustation of the community, doing what ever they want, gaslighting, lying 24/7 (maked up "stats", map chances changed etc) and and… i swear if they research what happend ONLY in the last few years they will be shocked… for myself its one of the funniest moments in the dbd history xDD
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