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Let me guess, Decisive Strike nerf? once you successfully land a DC on Killer you end up in dying state crawling away from them?
Wouldn't surprise me, Killers cry so much about this ability that can only be used once per match, it makes sense that it should be powerful.
Bring it on, DC is a crutch anyway and I never use it. Far more important perks to use than a one off through away perk that just ends up taking space for better perks.
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I very very rarely used DS. That’s not the point. Now killers will hook slug everyone. Bc it’s the logical thing to do.e8Lattice said:Let me guess, Decisive Strike nerf? once you successfully land a DC on Killer you end up in dying state crawling away from them?
Wouldn't surprise me, Killers cry so much about this ability that can only be used once per match, it makes sense that it should be powerful.
Bring it on, DC is a crutch anyway and I never use it. Far more important perks to use than a one off through away perk that just ends up taking space for better perks.
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@HeroLives said:
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e8Lattice said:Let me guess, Decisive Strike nerf? once you successfully land a DC on Killer you end up in dying state crawling away from them?
Wouldn't surprise me, Killers cry so much about this ability that can only be used once per match, it makes sense that it should be powerful.
Bring it on, DC is a crutch anyway and I never use it. Far more important perks to use than a one off through away perk that just ends up taking space for better perks.
I very very rarely used DS. That’s not the point. Now killers will hook slug everyone. Bc it’s the logical thing to do.
If only we had a perk to hard counter slugging...
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Like the killers like to say”I don’t have enough perk slots for all the counters” ######### off captain obviousNuclearBurrito said:@HeroLives said:
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e8Lattice said:Let me guess, Decisive Strike nerf? once you successfully land a DC on Killer you end up in dying state crawling away from them?
Wouldn't surprise me, Killers cry so much about this ability that can only be used once per match, it makes sense that it should be powerful.
Bring it on, DC is a crutch anyway and I never use it. Far more important perks to use than a one off through away perk that just ends up taking space for better perks.
I very very rarely used DS. That’s not the point. Now killers will hook slug everyone. Bc it’s the logical thing to do.
If only we had a perk to hard counter slugging...
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@HeroLives said:
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e8Lattice said: Let me guess, Decisive Strike nerf? once you successfully land a DC on Killer you end up in dying state crawling away from them? Wouldn't surprise me, Killers cry so much about this ability that can only be used once per match, it makes sense that it should be powerful. Bring it on, DC is a crutch anyway and I never use it. Far more important perks to use than a one off through away perk that just ends up taking space for better perks.
I very very rarely used DS. That’s not the point. Now killers will hook slug everyone. Bc it’s the logical thing to do.
If only we had a perk to hard counter slugging...
Like the killers like to say”I don’t have enough perk slots for all the counters” [BAD WORD] off captain obvious
The point is that since the perk exists that makes slugging risky. How many things are you trying to counter at once anyways?
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Not to be that person but killers keep getting better and better stuff, buffs, oh not to mention the entire fact that most things they nerfed on survivors so hard killers can counter without even bringing a perk to counter it. Flashlights almost useless, Bnp certainly useless, windows now, hit boxes.
Survivor goes nerf nerf nerf nerf yo I can’t bring a perk to handle all the stuff. Where in game killer counters can be done through gameplay without it. Plus the new gen nerf. Now the ds nerf.
Im beyond pissed. It’s not fair. I hardly ever play killer and get hella 4ks or you 3ks just doing a daily not even trying. I don’t even really like playing killer. They are literally sucking the fun out of the survivor side. I’m not the only person that feels this way at all. Maybe one of the few brave enough to speak up. This sucks and keeps sucking more every single update for survivors, and I honestly want to tell the devs to back the ######### off us with all these nerfs dressed up as something”better” when it’s not.3 -
There’s so much you have to try to counter and no way to know what to bring. You must not play survivor at all?NuclearBurrito said:@HeroLives said:
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e8Lattice said: Let me guess, Decisive Strike nerf? once you successfully land a DC on Killer you end up in dying state crawling away from them? Wouldn't surprise me, Killers cry so much about this ability that can only be used once per match, it makes sense that it should be powerful. Bring it on, DC is a crutch anyway and I never use it. Far more important perks to use than a one off through away perk that just ends up taking space for better perks.
I very very rarely used DS. That’s not the point. Now killers will hook slug everyone. Bc it’s the logical thing to do.
If only we had a perk to hard counter slugging...
Like the killers like to say”I don’t have enough perk slots for all the counters” [BAD WORD] off captain obvious
The point is that since the perk exists that makes slugging risky. How many things are you trying to counter at once anyways?
Slugging
Stealth
camping
tunneling
New surv killer rework
making sure you can’t do a gen together
nurses
Aura perks
these are just off the top of my head and our stealth perks only cover specific stealth things soo
oh I also need sc and an exhaustion perk to make sure I even have a chance at living or escaping the killer. Which 70% of the time if you’re solo you don’t.0 -
@HeroLives said:
a growing slugging issue soon to be made worse by the decisive re-work. Bc laying on the ground is hella fun, ya feel me? SO MUCH FUN🙄🙄🙄 Maybe I’ll just get good and never get caught lololololol Bc death rates for survivors aren’t already high af, now we will be able to play army crawl simulator tooo. wooohoo!Slugging is a product of the state of a game in which in order to slow the game down it is more effective to get at least two people down before hooking. Survivors are either running through gens or being ultra greedy with altruism saves to the point where rather than be vulnerable during a pickup or hook killers would rather slug. DS rework won't increase slugging. It will actually decrease tunneling and slugging because once you get hooked that first time killer's gonna let you run and deal with someone else till they can hook you again.
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@HeroLives said:
Not to be that person but killers keep getting better and better stuff, buffs, oh not to mention the entire fact that most things they nerfed on survivors so hard killers can counter without even bringing a perk to counter it. Flashlights almost useless, Bnp certainly useless, windows now, hit boxes.Survivor goes nerf nerf nerf nerf yo I can’t bring a perk to handle all the stuff. Where in game killer counters can be done through gameplay without it. Plus the new gen nerf. Now the ds nerf.
Im beyond pissed. It’s not fair. I hardly ever play killer and get hella 4ks or you 3ks just doing a daily not even trying. I don’t even really like playing killer. They are literally sucking the fun out of the survivor side. I’m not the only person that feels this way at all. Maybe one of the few brave enough to speak up. This sucks and keeps sucking more every single update for survivors, and I honestly want to tell the devs to back the [BAD WORD] off us with all these nerfs dressed up as something”better” when it’s not.
just commenting because you made me laugh so hard i almost fell out of my chair
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Unbreakable?1
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No they are going to slug and wait for the new timer to run out mate. =increased slugging. Which is already a huge survivor drag on the game. Two survivors are on the ground, but we’re greedy okay. Then it’s walk over and try to get them up and possibly get slugged too, or wait until they’re both hooked so close together Bc hooks are everywhere now. Then the killer patrols between them waiting. It’s brilliant but it sucks and it’s becoming a problem for survivors. So much so I felt the need to say something. Now another perk for survivors against survivors where it encourages more slugging. #NOTHANKSReikoMori said:@HeroLives said:
a growing slugging issue soon to be made worse by the decisive re-work. Bc laying on the ground is hella fun, ya feel me? SO MUCH FUN🙄🙄🙄 Maybe I’ll just get good and never get caught lololololol Bc death rates for survivors aren’t already high af, now we will be able to play army crawl simulator tooo. wooohoo!Slugging is a product of the state of a game in which in order to slow the game down it is more effective to get at least two people down before hooking. Survivors are either running through gens or being ultra greedy with altruism saves to the point where rather than be vulnerable during a pickup or hook killers would rather slug. DS rework won't increase slugging. It will actually decrease tunneling and slugging because once you get hooked that first time killer's gonna let you run and deal with someone else till they can hook you again.
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Yeah my pleasure😒holywhitetrash said:@HeroLives said:
Not to be that person but killers keep getting better and better stuff, buffs, oh not to mention the entire fact that most things they nerfed on survivors so hard killers can counter without even bringing a perk to counter it. Flashlights almost useless, Bnp certainly useless, windows now, hit boxes.Survivor goes nerf nerf nerf nerf yo I can’t bring a perk to handle all the stuff. Where in game killer counters can be done through gameplay without it. Plus the new gen nerf. Now the ds nerf.
Im beyond pissed. It’s not fair. I hardly ever play killer and get hella 4ks or you 3ks just doing a daily not even trying. I don’t even really like playing killer. They are literally sucking the fun out of the survivor side. I’m not the only person that feels this way at all. Maybe one of the few brave enough to speak up. This sucks and keeps sucking more every single update for survivors, and I honestly want to tell the devs to back the [BAD WORD] off us with all these nerfs dressed up as something”better” when it’s not.
just commenting because you made me laugh so hard i almost fell out of my chair
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Unbreakable?That trash tier perk?
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We have perks to counter slugging and if the killer slugs you and camps the slug have your mates rush gens.
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@HeroLives i’m a survivor main
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@HeroLives then pray to the entity they rush gens
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You obviously play with friends more than solo, Bc solo matches are a real ######### show.TreemanXD said:@HeroLives i’m a survivor main
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Lolol that’s all we can do is pray the entity will bless us. Bc gen rushing the only way for a decent survival percentage.TreemanXD said:@HeroLives then pray to the entity they rush gens
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@HeroLives wrong again I only play swf with one guy and I just added him the day before yesterday
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@HeroLives you know killers aren’t going to know you have DS right? It isn’t likely you’ll be slugged every time.
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Listen most matches goTreemanXD said:@HeroLives you know killers aren’t going to know you have DS right? It isn’t likely you’ll be slugged every time.
slugged
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camped
moried
and sometimes you’ll get a variety of the few.
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@HeroLives sounds like you’re unlucky because my games are usually not like any of these. Is it just PS4 killers?
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I guess man, we have serious issues on ps4. It’s crazy.TreemanXD said:@HeroLives sounds like you’re unlucky because my games are usually not like any of these. Is it just PS4 killers?
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@HeroLives I think either i’m just lucky or you are just unlucky cause i’m also on PS4.
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Not really. DS will be less common, so we'll learn not to worry about it. Plus, Unbreakable and possibly Tenacity will become more popular, so...HeroLives said:I
I very very rarely used DS. That’s not the point. Now killers will hook slug everyone. Bc it’s the logical thing to do.e8Lattice said:Let me guess, Decisive Strike nerf? once you successfully land a DC on Killer you end up in dying state crawling away from them?
Wouldn't surprise me, Killers cry so much about this ability that can only be used once per match, it makes sense that it should be powerful.
Bring it on, DC is a crutch anyway and I never use it. Far more important perks to use than a one off through away perk that just ends up taking space for better perks.
Smart survivors will adapt to the changes and adjust their perks accordingly.
The dumb ones will come here and cry, ain't that right @e8Lattice ?
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Idk man I do better on solo when I play not like a hero and more like an #########. Anytime people play slightly altruistic it usually goes down hill unless you have a good team. Or play swf and have a good team.TreemanXD said:@HeroLives I think either i’m just lucky or you are just unlucky cause i’m also on PS4.
There’s a few people I play really well with and others not so much Bc I’m a higher rank than them, so they get pushed to a higher killer tier which means half the team dies. Which is a bit of a break for me but worse for them. Which evens it out I guess, but it’s hard to play well when most of your team is getting slugged and hooked. Ya know? I can’t save ,do gens, do totems, and run the killer all by myself. The team work survivor side sucks and killers use that against survivors so well. I’m not complaining about killers being op. I’m complaining about a perk re-work that further promotes bad gameplay that will leave a majority of survivors pissed off. I mean plus killers like to hang out till you’re going into your second hook phase and by the time you can make a safe unhook you’ve lost an incredible amount of time. Because you have one person waiting for a safe unhook, the other two on gens, and the other one well on the hook. Or you have a billy with ruin, bbq, running around slugging making snowball effects and when he can’t snowball. He uses bbq. Next thing you know the entire team is slugged and hooked before you can even get a gen done. It really changes according to the higher you rank up. Once you hit about rank 7 and up it’s a nightmare and gets worse the higher you go.
Lower ranks ez Bc those killers aren’t as good they are usually terrible at trying to slug, or gen pressure. I survive most matches up until rank 7 and up. Then my rate drops drastically.
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@HeroLives said:
a growing slugging issue soon to be made worse by the decisive re-work.You won't know if a survivor got DS or not with the upcoming change since you turn into the obsession after using it. So why slug? Every survivor in the trial might have it or might not. It's stun duration is reduced as well so Enduring will be even better if you get DS'd.
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I get slugged all the time on the PS4. Every time I unequip Unbreakable, I regret it.
I had a match recently where the killer slugged all four survivors and let us bleed out. Didn't bother hooking us. Boy, that was fun.
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I don’t want to change my entire perk builds to avoid slugging and have to fill 2-3 slots to stop slugging , camping, and tunneling. Which is one of the points of why I think the rework is trash. Call me stupid though since it makes you feel so big and powerful. Maybe I don’t want to run perks that I feel like shouldn’t even be in game, but here we are. Maybe I think it’s unfair that killers only had to dribble to combat decisive , but now with the rework I’ll have to take 2-3 perk slots to combat the outcome it’s going to have. OKAY though I’m stupid. You obviously lack an inability to look at things from all angles. Piss off with your crap ass attitude.George_Soros said:
Not really. DS will be less common, so we'll learn not to worry about it. Plus, Unbreakable and possibly Tenacity will become more popular, so...HeroLives said:I
I very very rarely used DS. That’s not the point. Now killers will hook slug everyone. Bc it’s the logical thing to do.e8Lattice said:Let me guess, Decisive Strike nerf? once you successfully land a DC on Killer you end up in dying state crawling away from them?
Wouldn't surprise me, Killers cry so much about this ability that can only be used once per match, it makes sense that it should be powerful.
Bring it on, DC is a crutch anyway and I never use it. Far more important perks to use than a one off through away perk that just ends up taking space for better perks.
Smart survivors will adapt to the changes and adjust their perks accordingly.
The dumb ones will come here and cry, ain't that right @e8Lattice ? 1 -
You must not have seen the amount of killers on here saying they’re going to slug....I’m just getting ahead of the curve and thinking about cause and effect.se05239 said:@HeroLives said:
a growing slugging issue soon to be made worse by the decisive re-work.You won't know if a survivor got DS or not with the upcoming change since you turn into the obsession after using it. So why slug? Every survivor in the trial might have it or might not. It's stun duration is reduced as well so Enduring will be even better if you get DS'd.
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Dude yuh same page. Bc it’s so much fun to crawl around, it’s always Billy’s too. They’ll slug and let the entire team bleed out. Not even being gen rushed. Killer mains will swear up and down it’s because “gen rush” but I’ve had so many killers do toxic ######### just Bc. They act like it’s so one sided though.TragicSolitude said:I get slugged all the time on the PS4. Every time I unequip Unbreakable, I regret it.
I had a match recently where the killer slugged all four survivors and let us bleed out. Didn't bother hooking us. Boy, that was fun.
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Have you ever used Tenacity before? That perk makes crawling fun honestly.HeroLives said:a growing slugging issue soon to be made worse by the decisive re-work. Bc laying on the ground is hella fun, ya feel me? SO MUCH FUN🙄🙄🙄 Maybe I’ll just get good and never get caught lololololol Bc death rates for survivors aren’t already high af, now we will be able to play army crawl simulator tooo. wooohoo!
Besides, the DS rework logically won't cause mass slugging. Killers will just want to take the strike just to get rid of it.0 -
I get slugged a proper amount now. I certainly don’t believe it will result in slugging being less common. Also yeah I’ve used tenacity, don’t much care for it. Especially when I crawl faster just to have to killer follow or know where I am anyways Bc sluggers use deerstalker most times.Peasant said:
Have you ever used Tenacity before? That perk makes crawling fun honestly.HeroLives said:a growing slugging issue soon to be made worse by the decisive re-work. Bc laying on the ground is hella fun, ya feel me? SO MUCH FUN🙄🙄🙄 Maybe I’ll just get good and never get caught lololololol Bc death rates for survivors aren’t already high af, now we will be able to play army crawl simulator tooo. wooohoo!
Besides, the DS rework logically won't cause mass slugging. Killers will just want to take the strike just to get rid of it.0 -
Why should I, as a killer, go after the unhooked survivor, knowing that he might use DS on me? And to top it off, waste my precious time to make sure he won't use it???
Like, are you even reading this after yourself?0 -
@HeroLives said:
a growing slugging issue soon to be made worse by the decisive re-work. Bc laying on the ground is hella fun, ya feel me? SO MUCH FUN🙄🙄🙄 Maybe I’ll just get good and never get caught lololololol Bc death rates for survivors aren’t already high af, now we will be able to play army crawl simulator tooo. wooohoo!They rework ds?
When did this occur?
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@HeroLives said:
windows now, hit boxes.
These are latency issues and have nothing to do with "buffs/nerfs". Once BHVR gets their dedicated servers running we will most likely see this issue disappear almost completely.
As for the rest of what you said (didn't quote it since I'm not answering anything specifically) everyone wants something different from this game. This community has for some reason divided itself into "Survivor mains vs Killer mains" when in reality its just people with different opinions. This game is asymmetrical and as such will never attain a balance that makes everyone happy (nor do I believe such a symmetrical game exists). Rather than everyone getting so worked up and picking fights with one another we should be voicing our opinions/ideas in a constructive way towards staff at BHVR so they can look into new ideas/changes.
I feel there are a couple keys points lots of people (I myself admittedly at times) forget.
1: BHVR is not a huge "AAA" company with a limitless budget, legions of staff and infinite resources at their disposal. They are still figuring this all out for themselves too.
2: An asymmetrical game will always have balance issues as is its nature. This vision of game balance will also change frequently forcing people to look at the game in different and unique ways. If this is for better or worse can only be decided by you but should not be viewed as a permanent state of the game.
3: This community is not a split of "Survivor mains vs Killer mains" but rather various groups of people with varying opinions on what they want out of DBD. Civilized and constructive conversation will lead to less toxicity and a quicker find of the ideas the general community at large can agree on.
I may be spewing all this "be better, be kinder, love more" crap despite being a bit of a hypocrite at times myself but its because the game and this community are worth (and not above) saving. I enjoyed my time with DBD even if I've moved past it for the most part, and want to see more new players getting to experience what made this game so great without feeling put off by all the shade being thrown around. I want veteran players to remember to take a break from DBD if a current patch is something that gets you enraged. Games are played for fun and if you are not having fun move on for the time being.
Now that I feel horribly tingly inside from all this "Rainbows and sunshine" stuff lets end it here.
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Killers are getting buff 'cause survivors are already in a very good position. DS is a crutch that brings low ranks players into the higher ranks. We should be glad it's getting changed. We don't know if the meta's going to change to be more of a slug meta until we test it, too. By all means if killers start slugging more with the change, then complain. Change is scary, but sometimes it's for the better.
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The fact that you think waiting out a 60 second timer on the ground is an actual option as killer makes it very obvious that you never played killer beyond rank 5
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Slugging is already an issue but it is kinda needed. It needs a easier punish though. Their is quite a few killers I find will just let you slowly bleed out because they are having fun but that is actual griefing.
Idea; survivor can pick them selves up after a fairly long time with the broken condition permanently. No mither could just be a buff to this mechanic. This is an idea, please offer feedback and don't shred the idea to the bone its a thought.
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@Nea_Death_Experience said:
Slugging is already an issue but it is kinda needed. It needs a easier punish though. Their is quite a few killers I find will just let you slowly bleed out because they are having fun but that is actual griefing.Idea; survivor can pick them selves up after a fairly long time with the broken condition permanently. No mither could just be a buff to this mechanic. This is an idea, please offer feedback and don't shred the idea to the bone its a thought.
I almost never ran across a killer who'd let me bleed out intentionally, it happened like two or three times in my total survivor gameplay time (about 1/3rd of my actual DBD playtime). I don't think something that this rarely happens needs a fixing.
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@MhhBurgers its more a quality to life request. It's less common than tunneling or camping but its boring and you can't get points.
I wrote out a sob story about my games then deleted it. Basicly, it does happen, not every day but when it does happen it sucks heaps.
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I almost never ran across a killer who'd let me bleed out intentionally, it happened like two or three times in my total survivor gameplay time (about 1/3rd of my actual DBD playtime). I don't think something that this rarely happens needs a fixing.
If you crawl to a corner and no hooks are close enough I’ll let you bleed. NO FREE ESCAPES FROM THIS LEATHERFACE
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