After playing the game tonight with the new DS changes in mind...
I mean yeah we've all assumed this but playing the game with these changes in mind and seeing these situations first hand, it really sinks in just how bad this will be.
They can easily crawl to an exit gate in 60 seconds. The killers only hope will be to eat the stun and pray they can catch up to them in time. Enduring will become even more of a must have perk than before and this is assuming the stun staus at 3 seconds but people are already asking for it tk be increased.
I know there is new endgame content planned and I really hope this takes this into account. Deliverance and DS will be an insane combo.
There needs to be an endgame solution for DS.
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Wait is the PTB out already?
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No.Master said:Wait is the PTB out already?
I was playing the game both as survivor and killer. Saw unhooks after the last gen popped. Exit gates were open.
I realized if these people had the new DS there is literally no stopping them from escaping. Whereas right now there is.
Try it yourself.0 -
Except if they don’t have DS? People come up with these theories and base them on if everyone in the match is running it.2
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A good number of people take it now.SenzuDuck said:Except if they don’t have DS? People come up with these theories and base them on if everyone in the match is running it.
Many people who dont use it have said they intend to use it when the changes come in.
What do you do? Slug and assume they have it? Or pick then up and risk the stun?
I'd bet money this perk becomes even more widely used after the changes.1 -
Eating the stuns won't be bad at all if they don't change how Enduring interacts with ds. The timer nerf means all ds will be like the current tier 1 ds.
Enduring+Clown bottle with the new ds will be hilarious it'll be like nothing happened.
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If you don't want to take Enduring though?Bbbrian2013 said:Eating the stuns won't be bad at all if they don't change how Enduring interacts with ds. The timer nerf means all ds will be like the current tier 1 ds.
Enduring+Clown bottle with the new ds will be hilarious it'll be like nothing happened.
I perdonally believe the stun time will probably be increased.0 -
Tenacity+Unbreakable+Deliverance and New DS = new meta?0
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Down the unhooker that doesn’t have the chance to use it then?The_Crusader said:
A good number of people take it now.SenzuDuck said:Except if they don’t have DS? People come up with these theories and base them on if everyone in the match is running it.
Many people who dont use it have said they intend to use it when the changes come in.
What do you do? Slug and assume they have it? Or pick then up and risk the stun?
I'd bet money this perk becomes even more widely used after the changes.
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My thoughts exactly. The change gives buffs DS with guaranteed pressure later in the game at the cost of being able to use it early in the game. It just fits too well with the current meta of "Rush Gens, Adrenaline out the gate." Dribbling and using hooks that Survivors are immediately under should remain options of counterplay for killers. I also see DS getting more use after this "nerf."1
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Depends man.SenzuDuck said:
Down the unhooker that doesn’t have the chance to use it then?The_Crusader said:
A good number of people take it now.SenzuDuck said:Except if they don’t have DS? People come up with these theories and base them on if everyone in the match is running it.
Many people who dont use it have said they intend to use it when the changes come in.
What do you do? Slug and assume they have it? Or pick then up and risk the stun?
I'd bet money this perk becomes even more widely used after the changes.
Who unhooks while injured? Nobody. You gotta hope the unhooker can't make it to the exit gates before you can hit them twice.
Then there is the kobe/Deliverance.0 -
Gonna need NOED to just slug everyone.Tzeentchling9 said:My thoughts exactly. The change gives buffs DS with guaranteed pressure later in the game at the cost of being able to use it early in the game. It just fits too well with the current meta of "Rush Gens, Adrenaline out the gate." Dribbling and using hooks that Survivors are immediately under should remain options of counterplay for killers. I also see DS getting more use after this "nerf."
The timer should decrease once exit gates are powered. 60 is far too much at that point.0 -
From my perspective from the killer's view, I don't really care. I wouldn't even bother camping the survivor at the end game. There's literally no point to pip to get at rank 1. This is only my opinion. 👌0
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@The_Crusader said:
Bbbrian2013 said:Eating the stuns won't be bad at all if they don't change how Enduring interacts with ds. The timer nerf means all ds will be like the current tier 1 ds.
Enduring+Clown bottle with the new ds will be hilarious it'll be like nothing happened.
If you don't want to take Enduring though?
I perdonally believe the stun time will probably be increased.
Enduring BBQ Whispers and Ruin are must run perks imo... There is no wanting with how important they are.
They're all too vital to be replaced.
You need enduring to eat pallets and ds facing good players. You need BBQ to literally cut this games grind in half. You need whispers for end game hatch stand offs so your game isn't held hostage and you need ruin to slow the games down just a lil bit.
If you're not running that exact build on most killers you're hurting yourself.
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I mean that's still possible even now. It's just that now the perk has certain restrictions and counters. This is such a good change to DS I can't even.
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Clown will be used more coolBbbrian2013 said:Eating the stuns won't be bad at all if they don't change how Enduring interacts with ds. The timer nerf means all ds will be like the current tier 1 ds.
Enduring+Clown bottle with the new ds will be hilarious it'll be like nothing happened.
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@ad19970 Only 1 person is guarenteed the instant skillcheck now though. Plus if they go down near the hook they can be dribbled.
After the update all 4 survivors can use it immediately.
@Bbbrian2013 The problem is unlocking it. I have all killers at level 50, have hundreds of hours on the game but still don't have Enduring unlocked on some killers.
Also there are a few I would prefer not to take it on. Nurse, Spirit and Hag come to mind.
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If it’s end game you’re probably camping if you can’t hit a survivor running at your hook twice then that’s your problem tbh.The_Crusader said:
Depends man.SenzuDuck said:
Down the unhooker that doesn’t have the chance to use it then?The_Crusader said:
A good number of people take it now.SenzuDuck said:Except if they don’t have DS? People come up with these theories and base them on if everyone in the match is running it.
Many people who dont use it have said they intend to use it when the changes come in.
What do you do? Slug and assume they have it? Or pick then up and risk the stun?
I'd bet money this perk becomes even more widely used after the changes.
Who unhooks while injured? Nobody. You gotta hope the unhooker can't make it to the exit gates before you can hit them twice.
Then there is the kobe/Deliverance.0 -
There wouldnt be 1 survivor though. They dont attempt it with 1 because you pull them off.SenzuDuck said:
If it’s end game you’re probably camping if you can’t hit a survivor running at your hook twice then that’s your problem tbh.The_Crusader said:
Depends man.SenzuDuck said:
Down the unhooker that doesn’t have the chance to use it then?The_Crusader said:
A good number of people take it now.SenzuDuck said:Except if they don’t have DS? People come up with these theories and base them on if everyone in the match is running it.
Many people who dont use it have said they intend to use it when the changes come in.
What do you do? Slug and assume they have it? Or pick then up and risk the stun?
I'd bet money this perk becomes even more widely used after the changes.
Who unhooks while injured? Nobody. You gotta hope the unhooker can't make it to the exit gates before you can hit them twice.
Then there is the kobe/Deliverance.
We're talking 2/3.
And in my game, they pulled themself off the hook.0 -
What do you base your belief on?The_Crusader said:
If you don't want to take Enduring though?Bbbrian2013 said:Eating the stuns won't be bad at all if they don't change how Enduring interacts with ds. The timer nerf means all ds will be like the current tier 1 ds.
Enduring+Clown bottle with the new ds will be hilarious it'll be like nothing happened.
I perdonally believe the stun time will probably be increased.0 -
Just a gut feeling. With how much current DS users are crying about this change I feel it might be done to appease them. The devs have said it's a possibility.TAG said:
What do you base your belief on?The_Crusader said:
If you don't want to take Enduring though?Bbbrian2013 said:Eating the stuns won't be bad at all if they don't change how Enduring interacts with ds. The timer nerf means all ds will be like the current tier 1 ds.
Enduring+Clown bottle with the new ds will be hilarious it'll be like nothing happened.
I perdonally believe the stun time will probably be increased.
Of course this is just a personal gut feeling. There's nothing concrete about it. Don't want to confuse anyone.0 -
Well, as long as things remain unchanged, I'm gonna use Enduring to combat Decisive Strike and Pig Crouch to deal with Borrowed Time.The_Crusader said:
Just a gut feeling. With how much current DS users are crying about this change I feel it might be done to appease them. The devs have said it's a possibility.TAG said:
What do you base your belief on?The_Crusader said:
If you don't want to take Enduring though?Bbbrian2013 said:Eating the stuns won't be bad at all if they don't change how Enduring interacts with ds. The timer nerf means all ds will be like the current tier 1 ds.
Enduring+Clown bottle with the new ds will be hilarious it'll be like nothing happened.
I perdonally believe the stun time will probably be increased.
Of course this is just a personal gut feeling. There's nothing concrete about it. Don't want to confuse anyone.0
