Are you planning on removing the Ingame Bloodpoint limit?
With the proposed changes to the Trapper, he can get a 100% bonus BPs on traps. But this add-on in combination with Distressing would lead to a "max" message in no time.
So are you planning on removing the Ingame Bloodpoint limit or would they be awarded after the match? Otherwise it wouldn´t make sense at all.
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Yes, as a Trapper main please remove the limit, I get capped out on picking up trapped victims pretty quickly, even if I don't grab them I'm tapped out quick.
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No, since this will 'buff' bloodpoint bots.
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Yes, mainly AFK docs, or laggswitching Freddies. There's a Steam group called "Laggswitch DBD". Where they're all using Bloodpoint build (TOTH, Whispers, BBQ, spies of the shadow) and 4K every game. Can't understand how that's fun. But they get 30k points in 4 minutes.
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@Nick said:
Yes, mainly AFK docs, or laggswitching Freddies. There's a Steam group called "Laggswitch DBD". Where they're all using Bloodpoint build (TOTH, Whispers, BBQ, spies of the shadow) and 4K every game. Can't understand how that's fun. But they get 30k points in 4 minutes.
Lag switching Freddies are bots?
Whispers and spies from the shadows give extra Bloodpoints??
You can get 30k Bloodpoints in 4 minutes without hooking???I think you need to take that tin foil hat off...
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@Tsulan said:
@Nick said:
Yes, mainly AFK docs, or laggswitching Freddies. There's a Steam group called "Laggswitch DBD". Where they're all using Bloodpoint build (TOTH, Whispers, BBQ, spies of the shadow) and 4K every game. Can't understand how that's fun. But they get 30k points in 4 minutes.
Lag switching Freddies are bots?
Whispers and spies from the shadows give extra Bloodpoints??
You can get 30k Bloodpoints in 4 minutes without hooking???I think you need to take that tin foil hat off...
Must be trolling... I hope ?
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@Runiver said:
@Tsulan said:
@Nick said:
Yes, mainly AFK docs, or laggswitching Freddies. There's a Steam group called "Laggswitch DBD". Where they're all using Bloodpoint build (TOTH, Whispers, BBQ, spies of the shadow) and 4K every game. Can't understand how that's fun. But they get 30k points in 4 minutes.
Lag switching Freddies are bots?
Whispers and spies from the shadows give extra Bloodpoints??
You can get 30k Bloodpoints in 4 minutes without hooking???I think you need to take that tin foil hat off...
Must be trolling... I hope ?
I hope so, too.
But you can never be sure.0 -
someone hold me until we get to the bottom of this deepening mystery.1
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@Tsulan said:
@Nick said:
Yes, mainly AFK docs, or laggswitching Freddies. There's a Steam group called "Laggswitch DBD". Where they're all using Bloodpoint build (TOTH, Whispers, BBQ, spies of the shadow) and 4K every game. Can't understand how that's fun. But they get 30k points in 4 minutes.
Lag switching Freddies are bots?
Whispers and spies from the shadows give extra Bloodpoints??
You can get 30k Bloodpoints in 4 minutes without hooking???I think you need to take that tin foil hat off...
No, the Freddy is not a bot, but they're people farming blood points. The AFK bots are docs, just standing still in treatment mode. Freddy is perfect for lagg switching. Because you find survivors very easily. You've got 2 perks that give bloodpoints. BBQ (4x 25% bloodpoints post-game, because you're going to kill everyone because they cant move) and thrill of the hunt, its like 6% for the Hunting category, something like that. Spies of the shadows and whispers are just there to speed up the process. And you cant lose anyone, because you're fredddy and they're in dream mode. It's lagg switching group, they even have a group on Steam.
I have 1 question for you. How many hours do you have on record? Just so I know who I'm talking to.
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@Nick said:
@Tsulan said:
@Nick said:
Yes, mainly AFK docs, or laggswitching Freddies. There's a Steam group called "Laggswitch DBD". Where they're all using Bloodpoint build (TOTH, Whispers, BBQ, spies of the shadow) and 4K every game. Can't understand how that's fun. But they get 30k points in 4 minutes.
Lag switching Freddies are bots?
Whispers and spies from the shadows give extra Bloodpoints??
You can get 30k Bloodpoints in 4 minutes without hooking???I think you need to take that tin foil hat off...
No, the Freddy is not a bot, but they're people farming blood points. The AFK bots are docs, just standing still in treatment mode. Freddy is perfect for lagg switching. Because you find survivors very easily. You've got 2 perks that give bloodpoints. BBQ (4x 25% bloodpoints post-game, because you're going to kill everyone because they cant move) and thrill of the hunt, its like 6% for the Hunting category, something like that. Spies of the shadows and whispers are just there to speed up the process. And you cant lose anyone, because you're fredddy and they're in dream mode. It's lagg switching group, they even have a group on Steam.
I have 1 question for you. How many hours do you have on record? Just so I know who I'm talking to.
Freddy can´t see #########. Doesn´t matter if he´s lagging. There are no Freddy bots.
Doctor in treament gets close to no points, unless he does something.
Spies from the Shadows and Whispers don´t speed that process up.
There exists no lag switching group on DbD. Even lag switchers are very rare. I´ve only found 1 lag switcher, 2 hackers and 2 achievement hackers in all the time i´ve played DbD.I have 877 hours:
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@Runiver said:
@Tsulan said:
@Nick said:
Yes, mainly AFK docs, or laggswitching Freddies. There's a Steam group called "Laggswitch DBD". Where they're all using Bloodpoint build (TOTH, Whispers, BBQ, spies of the shadow) and 4K every game. Can't understand how that's fun. But they get 30k points in 4 minutes.
Lag switching Freddies are bots?
Whispers and spies from the shadows give extra Bloodpoints??
You can get 30k Bloodpoints in 4 minutes without hooking???I think you need to take that tin foil hat off...
Must be trolling... I hope ?
See? told ya he´s not trolling.
@EpicFailTryHard said:
someone hold me until we get to the bottom of this deepening mystery.We have to go deeper!
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Freddy can´t see #########. Doesn´t matter if he´s lagging. There are no Freddy bots.
They can't snap out / escape. You can see their auras.
Doctor in treament gets close to no points, unless he does something.
The people screaming and running in front of him give you the max amount of points without doing anything
Spies from the Shadows and Whispers don´t speed that process up.
You can find people quicker, name me 2 better tracking perks for laggswitching
There exists no lag switching group on DbD. Even lag switchers are very rare. I´ve only found 1 lag switcher,
2 hackers and 2 achievement hackers in all the time i´ve played DbD.
Have you been sitting in the lobby for 800 hours?0 -
@Nick said:
Freddy can´t see #########. Doesn´t matter if he´s lagging. There are no Freddy bots.
They can't snap out / escape. You can see their auras.
Doctor in treament gets close to no points, unless he does something.
The people screaming and running in front of him give you the max amount of points without doing anything
Spies from the Shadows and Whispers don´t speed that process up.
You can find people quicker, name me 2 better tracking perks for laggswitching
There exists no lag switching group on DbD. Even lag switchers are very rare. I´ve only found 1 lag switcher,
2 hackers and 2 achievement hackers in all the time i´ve played DbD.
Have you been sitting in the lobby for 800 hours?Wait... before we continue...
On a scale of 1 to 10. How strong is Freddy?0 -
Wait... before we continue...
On a scale of 1 to 10. How strong is Freddy?0, or close to 1
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@Nick said:
Freddy can´t see #########. Doesn´t matter if he´s lagging. There are no Freddy bots.
They can't snap out / escape. You can see their auras.
Doctor in treament gets close to no points, unless he does something.
The people screaming and running in front of him give you the max amount of points without doing anything
Spies from the Shadows and Whispers don´t speed that process up.
You can find people quicker, name me 2 better tracking perks for laggswitching
There exists no lag switching group on DbD. Even lag switchers are very rare. I´ve only found 1 lag switcher,
2 hackers and 2 achievement hackers in all the time i´ve played DbD.
Have you been sitting in the lobby for 800 hours?Ok, so at least you don´t think Freddy is OP.
So why cant survivors snap out or escape? I mean, if its a bot, he won´t chase them. Bots don´t chase.
If there are really killer bot players, which can chase, hit, hook, and get a 4k as Freddy. Then BHVR should hire the bot creators! That would solve a lot of problems.Why would people run to a afk doctor in treatment mode?
I´m not sure if you know what lag switching means. But i´m pretty sure, that Spies and Whispers are no tracking perks. Maybe try Bloodhound or Sloppy Butcher.
Yeah, i probably got all my achievements by sitting afk in the lobby.
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@Nick said:
No, the Freddy is not a bot, but they're people farming blood points. The AFK bots are docs, just standing still in treatment mode.@Tsulan
Its about finding the people standing still, not chasing them. Because when you use laggswitch everyone is standing still on the hosts screen (the killer). You dont need sloppy and bloodhound lol, they're standing right in front of you. You only need a way to instantly rush to them at the start of the game.0 -
@Nick said:
@Nick said:
No, the Freddy is not a bot, but they're people farming blood points. The AFK bots are docs, just standing still in treatment mode.@Tsulan
Its about finding the people standing still, not chasing them. Because when you use laggswitch everyone is standing still on the hosts screen (the killer). You dont need sloppy and bloodhound lol, they're standing right in front of you. You only need a way to instantly rush to them at the start of the game.You sure seem to have some problems. If you encounter so many lag switchers.
Have you considered that it might be just lag?0 -
You sure seem to have some problems. If you encounter so many lag switchers.
Have you considered that it might be just lag?When the entire team is complaining about it in the end chat, no.
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@RemoveSWF said:
Please remove the limit. It only exists because people were botting when the game was first release, now I never see bots.I feel the cap should stay. I'd like to see that when a new Killer/Survivor come, that they actually have to learn to play them and learn their perks. Far too many people save up 1 Mil points and just blow through a number of blood webs, giving the supposedly new Killer/Survivor all the same boring META perks with maybe one of the new perks mixed in for flavour.
I'd actually love to see a Maximum spending limit on each web of 100 k before you need to play a match with them to level them up again. It'd be nice if points earned could only be spent on the character they were earned on. Now I know this is a strong statement but hear out my reasons before flaming.
If points earned could only be spent on the character that earned them, then we would potentially see the following things. A more diverse gaming experience, as people are forced to spent at least a little time learning all of the killer/survivors and their perks. Less of the META, this game needs less meta, it makes the game often a boring "wash, rinse, repeat" type experience. Also having it this way would be more of a bragging right. "I've p3'd all my survivors!" means you played all of the survivors to P3, not just mained your main and bought everything because you had nothing else to spend points on.
Also limiting the spending also makes the decision to prestige at all, way more a sacrifice. Saving up a Mil points and then prestiging, makes the sacrifice so much less, because you are usually back in a pretty good position after respending the mil. Removing the BP cap would effectively make prestiging free. Just save up 3 mil and go ahead, now you own your reward without giving up anything.
Prestiging was supposed to be a tough descision, "Do I get the cool cosmetic , and go back to square one? Or do I keep what I've earned thus far and continue on?" NO CAP = NO BRAINER
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@Outland said:
@RemoveSWF said:
Please remove the limit. It only exists because people were botting when the game was first release, now I never see bots.I feel the cap should stay. I'd like to see that when a new Killer/Survivor come, that they actually have to learn to play them and learn their perks. Far too many people save up 1 Mil points and just blow through a number of blood webs, giving the supposedly new Killer/Survivor all the same boring META perks with maybe one of the new perks mixed in for flavour.
I'd actually love to see a Maximum spending limit on each web of 100 k before you need to play a match with them to level them up again. It'd be nice if points earned could only be spent on the character they were earned on. Now I know this is a strong statement but hear out my reasons before flaming.
If points earned could only be spent on the character that earned them, then we would potentially see the following things. A more diverse gaming experience, as people are forced to spent at least a little time learning all of the killer/survivors and their perks. Less of the META, this game needs less meta, it makes the game often a boring "wash, rinse, repeat" type experience. Also having it this way would be more of a bragging right. "I've p3'd all my survivors!" means you played all of the survivors to P3, not just mained your main and bought everything because you had nothing else to spend points on.
Also limiting the spending also makes the decision to prestige at all, way more a sacrifice. Saving up a Mil points and then prestiging, makes the sacrifice so much less, because you are usually back in a pretty good position after respending the mil. Removing the BP cap would effectively make prestiging free. Just save up 3 mil and go ahead, now you own your reward without giving up anything.
Prestiging was supposed to be a tough descision, "Do I get the cool cosmetic , and go back to square one? Or do I keep what I've earned thus far and continue on?" NO CAP = NO BRAINER
I disagree.
Saving up 3 mil would take a lot of time and dedication. Someone who spends enough time to save up so many bloodpoints should know what to do with them. The limit is just stupid.
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A slight BP limit increase could be good. (maybe 10k per category, it would round it up nicely.)
And any "BP bonus" should come after the round.1 -
Just increase it to 10k per cat.
Like RUniver said.
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Artefact of the old system, like 70% of this game, aka current trapper add-ons, current hag add-ons, current nurse add-ons, current Billy add-ons, current Wraith add-ons, etc, etc.
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@Runiver said:
Artefact of the old system, like 70% of this game, aka current trapper add-ons, current hag add-ons, current nurse add-ons, current Billy add-ons, current Wraith add-ons, etc, etc.
Well, they want to rework all of the old add-ons.
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@Tsulan said:
@Outland said:
@RemoveSWF said:
Please remove the limit. It only exists because people were botting when the game was first release, now I never see bots.I feel the cap should stay. I'd like to see that when a new Killer/Survivor come, that they actually have to learn to play them and learn their perks. Far too many people save up 1 Mil points and just blow through a number of blood webs, giving the supposedly new Killer/Survivor all the same boring META perks with maybe one of the new perks mixed in for flavour.
I'd actually love to see a Maximum spending limit on each web of 100 k before you need to play a match with them to level them up again. It'd be nice if points earned could only be spent on the character they were earned on. Now I know this is a strong statement but hear out my reasons before flaming.
If points earned could only be spent on the character that earned them, then we would potentially see the following things. A more diverse gaming experience, as people are forced to spent at least a little time learning all of the killer/survivors and their perks. Less of the META, this game needs less meta, it makes the game often a boring "wash, rinse, repeat" type experience. Also having it this way would be more of a bragging right. "I've p3'd all my survivors!" means you played all of the survivors to P3, not just mained your main and bought everything because you had nothing else to spend points on.
Also limiting the spending also makes the decision to prestige at all, way more a sacrifice. Saving up a Mil points and then prestiging, makes the sacrifice so much less, because you are usually back in a pretty good position after respending the mil. Removing the BP cap would effectively make prestiging free. Just save up 3 mil and go ahead, now you own your reward without giving up anything.
Prestiging was supposed to be a tough descision, "Do I get the cool cosmetic , and go back to square one? Or do I keep what I've earned thus far and continue on?" NO CAP = NO BRAINER
I disagree.
Saving up 3 mil would take a lot of time and dedication. Someone who spends enough time to save up so many bloodpoints should know what to do with them. The limit is just stupid.
Or do saving accounts for kids have limits on how much they can save?And I disagree with you, so I guess we are at an impasse, only I gave reasons for my opinions, and you sided with ... "The Limit is just stupid." and something about kids saving money.
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I would hope that they remove the 1 million Bloodpoint cap. Their reason for having it was damage control; if a player accidentally or purposefully managed to get a lot of Bloodpoints, there would be a limit.
However, they did not do this with Auric Cells; there's no cap on them despite Auric Cells being more damaging, as they cost real money.
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@EpicFailTryHard said:
someone hold me until we get to the bottom of this deepening mystery.Paging @Lowbei
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Both blood point caps should be removed since having the 1 million cap removed doesn't allow you to buy everything int hat blood web anyways. the in game should be removed or as was said capped at 10k. but it's too easy with just distressing and no BBQ ever used to cap out within a few minutes.
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powerbats said:
@EpicFailTryHard said:
someone hold me until we get to the bottom of this deepening mystery.Paging @Lowbei
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@Tsulan said:
@Nick said:
@Nick said:
No, the Freddy is not a bot, but they're people farming blood points. The AFK bots are docs, just standing still in treatment mode.@Tsulan
Its about finding the people standing still, not chasing them. Because when you use laggswitch everyone is standing still on the hosts screen (the killer). You dont need sloppy and bloodhound lol, they're standing right in front of you. You only need a way to instantly rush to them at the start of the game.You sure seem to have some problems. If you encounter so many lag switchers.
Have you considered that it might be just lag?I've had a few matches where it happens and only 1x may'be 2 where the whole team was standing still someone had used all survivors start together. We all couldn't move when match started and all got hit and instant downed before we got to move.
As far as overall lag switchers probably 20-30 max and some do it entire match while others like other night only did it specifically when in a chase. But for the most part they're pretty rare.
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@Outland said:
@Tsulan said:
@Outland said:
@RemoveSWF said:
Please remove the limit. It only exists because people were botting when the game was first release, now I never see bots.I feel the cap should stay. I'd like to see that when a new Killer/Survivor come, that they actually have to learn to play them and learn their perks. Far too many people save up 1 Mil points and just blow through a number of blood webs, giving the supposedly new Killer/Survivor all the same boring META perks with maybe one of the new perks mixed in for flavour.
I'd actually love to see a Maximum spending limit on each web of 100 k before you need to play a match with them to level them up again. It'd be nice if points earned could only be spent on the character they were earned on. Now I know this is a strong statement but hear out my reasons before flaming.
If points earned could only be spent on the character that earned them, then we would potentially see the following things. A more diverse gaming experience, as people are forced to spent at least a little time learning all of the killer/survivors and their perks. Less of the META, this game needs less meta, it makes the game often a boring "wash, rinse, repeat" type experience. Also having it this way would be more of a bragging right. "I've p3'd all my survivors!" means you played all of the survivors to P3, not just mained your main and bought everything because you had nothing else to spend points on.
Also limiting the spending also makes the decision to prestige at all, way more a sacrifice. Saving up a Mil points and then prestiging, makes the sacrifice so much less, because you are usually back in a pretty good position after respending the mil. Removing the BP cap would effectively make prestiging free. Just save up 3 mil and go ahead, now you own your reward without giving up anything.
Prestiging was supposed to be a tough descision, "Do I get the cool cosmetic , and go back to square one? Or do I keep what I've earned thus far and continue on?" NO CAP = NO BRAINER
I disagree.
Saving up 3 mil would take a lot of time and dedication. Someone who spends enough time to save up so many bloodpoints should know what to do with them. The limit is just stupid.
Or do saving accounts for kids have limits on how much they can save?And I disagree with you, so I guess we are at an impasse, only I gave reasons for my opinions, and you sided with ... "The Limit is just stupid." and something about kids saving money.
Ok i´ll have to explain the analogy. You think a person who could save up 3 million BPs is not mature enough to know what he will spend the BPs for. Thats why i brought up the example of a kids savings account. Since they are not mature enough, they can´t save more than 1000$... ohh wait, yes they can.
So again, someone who spends a whole month playing DbD and saving the BPs, should be able to save up enough to spend them where he wants. You are not the one to decide if people have the right to spend their saved bloodpoints.
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yes, lowlyboy. we know that all the best players camp tunnel and play with mics, oh exalted one. glory to thy name.1
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@Tsulan said:
@Outland said:
@Tsulan said:
@Outland said:
@RemoveSWF said:
Please remove the limit. It only exists because people were botting when the game was first release, now I never see bots.I feel the cap should stay. I'd like to see that when a new Killer/Survivor come, that they actually have to learn to play them and learn their perks. Far too many people save up 1 Mil points and just blow through a number of blood webs, giving the supposedly new Killer/Survivor all the same boring META perks with maybe one of the new perks mixed in for flavour.
I'd actually love to see a Maximum spending limit on each web of 100 k before you need to play a match with them to level them up again. It'd be nice if points earned could only be spent on the character they were earned on. Now I know this is a strong statement but hear out my reasons before flaming.
If points earned could only be spent on the character that earned them, then we would potentially see the following things. A more diverse gaming experience, as people are forced to spent at least a little time learning all of the killer/survivors and their perks. Less of the META, this game needs less meta, it makes the game often a boring "wash, rinse, repeat" type experience. Also having it this way would be more of a bragging right. "I've p3'd all my survivors!" means you played all of the survivors to P3, not just mained your main and bought everything because you had nothing else to spend points on.
Also limiting the spending also makes the decision to prestige at all, way more a sacrifice. Saving up a Mil points and then prestiging, makes the sacrifice so much less, because you are usually back in a pretty good position after respending the mil. Removing the BP cap would effectively make prestiging free. Just save up 3 mil and go ahead, now you own your reward without giving up anything.
Prestiging was supposed to be a tough descision, "Do I get the cool cosmetic , and go back to square one? Or do I keep what I've earned thus far and continue on?" NO CAP = NO BRAINER
I disagree.
Saving up 3 mil would take a lot of time and dedication. Someone who spends enough time to save up so many bloodpoints should know what to do with them. The limit is just stupid.
Or do saving accounts for kids have limits on how much they can save?And I disagree with you, so I guess we are at an impasse, only I gave reasons for my opinions, and you sided with ... "The Limit is just stupid." and something about kids saving money.
Ok i´ll have to explain the analogy. You think a person who could save up 3 million BPs is not mature enough to know what he will spend the BPs for. Thats why i brought up the example of a kids savings account. Since they are not mature enough, they can´t save more than 1000$... ohh wait, yes they can.
So again, someone who spends a whole month playing DbD and saving the BPs, should be able to save up enough to spend them where he wants. You are not the one to decide if people have the right to spend their saved bloodpoints.
I never said anything about maturity level. I'd thank you to not make up conversations I did not have. And what the hell does maturity level have to do with spending BP's?
Currently there is a cap, and I think it should stay in place. So apparently BHVR thinks they can tell you how much to spend.
I see a lot of useful points to having the progression slowed down a bit. The whole prestige system is counting on there being a hard choice that Players need to make about whether to start over and have a new cosmetic or maintain the perks and items they have to continue on playing at the level they currently are at.
Your way takes away from that. "I'll just save a crap ton of points and prestige so there is no draw back, because I feel I should get the cosmetic and not have to give up anything for it". Just more entitlement showing its way into the player base.
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