Don't change the emblemsystem again!
I know a lot of people dont like the current state how we pip but it's totally fine. Devs don't let them change your mind! If we compare it to other pvp games it's the first time we have the chance to actually creat different tiers of playerbases. Give it at least one full season before tweaking numbers around the scoring again.
People are just entitled right now because they're not getting their precious rank one for free anymore.
U did absolutly great with the newe scoring so just commit to it!
Thanks Devs!
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It's not hard if u know how to play the game. True it could get some tweaks but not before it's established. It's finally time to seduce good and bad players like in every other pvp game
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@Orti Please tell me how a survivor is supposed to get 3x Gold + 1x Iridescent when the killer and the other teammates are decently skilled players.
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Doesn't matter what you really gotta say.. People will show the devs that they aren't interested anymore by not playing.
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The problem is (looking at survivor for now) not everyone can pip in the match even if you all do well and escape, it is not based on anything you do it's what you maybe CAN do and that is also down to the others.
There is no guarantee you will get a save before someone else it's about the right place and the right time, there is no guarantee you will be able to heal someone up, should we all swarm the hook now and fight over it?
The problem is the system does not encourage diversity, it makes the game feel like its on rails and you are being led down a path, it has nothing to do with being entitled thats a false argument made by pubescent teens, if you do well you want to feel rewarded.
Rank and matchmaking being one entity has been the problem not ranking up itself, those two need seperated.
The system only solves one problem, deranking as now they don't have too, the ones who like to be chased all game and bully the lower ranked killers well guess what, they can now do it without the need to DC.
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The new emblems system is broken because you pip or not is depend on the opposite site.
For survivor, if the system match me to low rank survivor and in result let me depip. I can accept that
But, why as survivor need to depip if the killer doesn't have enough skill( etc doesn't hook any survivor in the match) to catch survivor?
Same goes to killer. All survivor decide to kill themself at the hook,and they instant down every chase, and I still depip????
I don't play any game will consider you lose it's just because you enemy is a noob!
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I’ve been stuck in the ranks where killers suck because of this new system, the new system mainly punishes those of us that didn’t play during reset.
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@NoShinyPony by playing the game. Sure it's hard but that what the highest tier of a ranking system should be. Go and try to get to highest rank in LoL. Seems impossible for the average player too
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@EntityDispleased still rank one on both sides and still pipping quite frequently not that it's still relevant. Also I know a lot of people who don't have any problems with getting to rank one or staying there. It's just not supposed to let everyone reach rank 1. It's the highest tier of rank.
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@twistedmonkey two unhooks plus two heals are enough for a gold emblem maybe even red. Not totally sure. So that's the amount of unhooks and heals everyone can get by default. Everyone is supposed to do everything. Don't play the m1 Simulator as a Surv u be fine. At least it's working for me and a lot of other players I know. Yeah it's way harder and sometimes u need to give chances to the other side but thats fine imo because it's more fun for everyone. Try to understand how the emblems work before blaming the system. It's working fine
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@paint1210 change your playstyle as Survivor u can pip or at least black pip even against a bad killer. At rank one when u only down Survs two times equals four perfect chaser scores and all dc u still black pip. Same as when everyone is killing himself at the first hook so your Argument is just wrong
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Killer isn't so bad but survivor is totally busted.
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@The_Crusader Killer is almost the same so is survivor. They didn't change how u earn your emblem points they just let u earn more Emblems to pip getting 4 times gold every game brings u to red ranks. Not hard to do that if u die u just need to get one red Emblem instead.
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But survivor relies on too much luck.
If the killer cant get hooks - you dont pip
If the killer camps or tunnels all game - you dont pip
If your team disconnects or suicides early - probably a depip.
You need the killer to be good and you need the other 3 survivors to not steal all the hooks. So it becomes a rsce to unhook which leads to more unsafe unhooks which leads to more tunnelong which leads to games being lost.
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Killer isn’t nearly as bad as survivor.
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@TreemanXD Not true a friend Starter ranking up after the patch and hit rank one as Surv too so still possible even if you're not playing after reset. Also a skilled Surv can farm bis pip from a bad killer
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@Orti Okay, so you don't understand the problem. I'll explain it in a basic way: You can't juke a killer for 3 gens and repair 3 gens in the same match.
The new system is not hard, it's unreasonable. I don't have any problem with a hard pipping system. The old one was way too easy and half the community was rank 1.
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@NoShinyPony u could if your Mates are potatoes but u don't need to anyway to pip. So please explain further why u can't pip. If I really need to I can send u the values what u actual need to do in every category to get gold or red emblems.
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@TreemanXD thats not what I said. I meant that it's still almost the same for killers how they get their Emblems. For Survs they didn't changed anything at all u just need more Emblems to pip
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The emblems are a ######### disaster that has survivors compete with each and the killer to go easy on them in order to rank up. Change it.
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@The_Crusader So does Killer if Survs DC or suicide you're only black pipping too. It's not the Devs fault that so many people arent playing the game normal.
If the killer isn't getting enough Hooks give him the time or chance. The new mechanic rewards longer matches. Dont be a m1 bot and you're pipping
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No it ######### doesn't. You don't get more progress on Lightbringer if other survivors are doing the gens. You don't get more progress in Benevolent if other survivors unhook before you do. It's #########.
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... If you're going to prove me wrong then ######### do it. Don't back out and state you're right.
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But do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? In what other game do you have to go easy on your opponent and let them get a few points or hits?
Imagine playing mortal kombat and being told "Don't go for the flawless victory, let your opponent get a few hits in instead".
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@Mc_Harty So there are 8 unhooks and 8 heals to do in every match. If everyone gets 25% he/ she is fine for that category. If two Survs do two gens together they get gold two. One can do the last one and two can open an edit gate. Now everyone allready did everything and should be close to a pip or already at a pip. Now the killer gets ro kills two and everyone got a pip. After all this is how an average game should be. Survs need to coordinate their actions thats what u call teamplay and as u See it rewards everyone. If everyone is just rushing no one will pip at the end
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@The_Crusader It's only ridiculous in red ranks before you're supposed to play casual and learn the game so u can give chances like this if you're way more skilled then your opponents. With creating a barrier like this they make it easier for evrryone to actual learn all the game mechanics equally instead of focusing on one or two things. Also the Community wanted slower games for a long time now we need to play slower but everyone is still complaining. This Community will never be satisfied or happy about the game.
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Survivors need to get 3 iridescent and 1 gold in order to get a pip at high ranks.
That means each survivor has to:
- Complete 3 generators
- Not get downed once
- 5 unhooks
- Get chased by the killer for a over a couple of minutes
There is no way survivors are going to rank up with your argument.
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I'm low rank killer because I haven't played much this month.
Without a doubt the ranking system is a failure because all the red rank survivors are in purple/green ranks right now. You can tell from the way they play. Normally as I work up after reset the survivors play in a casual way. These lot know all the loops like the back of their hand, know how to work pallets in the most optimal way, and most importantly they never bother to heal they just gen rush instead. You almost never seen that around rank 9.
Which goes back to what myself and others have said, it's too slow to pip. Hell even the always rank 1 streamers who have hours to dedicate to the game, many have been stuck in purple for a long time.
I know a red rank survivor when I see one and I've never seen this many at this rank. I'm ok as I've faced them before but it's not going to be pretty for the genuine green rank killers. These survivors don't go easy they just smash the gens, and why should they? it's a videogame and they want to win.
The ranking system is a failure of epic proportions. The devs have nobody to blame but themselves as the feedback from the ptb was strongly against this.
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@Orti I just explained why high rank survs can't pip in a normal match. You now named the condition under which survs can pip.
In order to pip, you need at least one bad surv who doesn't work properly so that you can do their work as well for your emblem points. You also need a killer who is so bad that they can't put pressure on the survs despite there being one or two bad players who don't do anything.
That's why you can't pip in a normal match. You rely on having a bad killer and one or two bad teammates.
If you think you just "have to know what you have to do", then I suggest you start streaming and show everybody how you just pip match after match in high ranks. You'll be our superstar.
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