New emblem system punishes people who are being camped also...
Got out of a game recently and the Michael Myers was tunneling and camping me almost the entire game and I lost a pip instead of just safety pipping...
With the new emblem system now, it’s very hard to pip but not impossible... especially when half of the survivors have already done most of the objectives that would require me to pip.
Is it possible to make it where only the camper gets punished and not the survivor?
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This game shouldn't be ranked lol, there are mori's keys, flashlights op addons for killer and survivor toolboxes for genrushing stupid perks that shouldn't be in the game. Overall stupid balance. And variables that are sometimes out of control of the player... the game should just have a hidden MMR or time played because honestly I just ignore the rank at this point and stop caring about it they should just remove it because the game still isn't balanced survivors can bully most of the killers because the majority of killers are low/mid tier killers... There are no perks to stop genrushing then on the flipslide you got campers that make you depip. This game shouldn't have a rank.
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Rank needs to be removed already.
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@altruistic That is where I have mixed feelings at. Rank is good on here but at the same time it is bad.
I would rather be matched with players of my skill level and not complete noobs who have no idea what they’re doing.
Playing with SWF can obviously fix this but sometimes I just wanna kick it solo, plus with the old matchmaking system back in range, it takes too long to find a match.
With the OLD ranking system, it was too easy to pip.
With the NEW ranking system, it’s too hard to pip.
There are other games that have ranking systems that are literally just perfect, I don’t understand if it’s just how the majority of the player base plays or what.
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Played yesterday a game where it literally was impossible for me to secure a kill (or camp lul) Thanks to BT and DS rushing the hook has become braindead easy
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@MasterIt’s not impossible to camp. Camping has always been a thing in this game.
BT hook rushing has always been a thing and DS is trash now so if you get taken down by DS... that says a lot.
Do you mind posting footage of your gameplay? I notice you’re always talking about how there are these hit squads and how bad killers have it but I never have experienced any of them.
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Well ranked is basically meaningless, it only helps to split up the community to have a rough balance around experience and skill.
It would be just unfun to gamble as a new player to be matched against skilled veterans.
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You would of most likely depiped in the old system too.
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@Mr_K No, I would probably of gotten at least a saftey pip since I maxed out my chase points. When the old system was up, it was way too easy to pip.
I can understand now that the new system is being used for people who just sit and crouch in the corner instead of doing their objectives but people are being camped by the killer don’t deserve to lose a pip over that.
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This new emblem system punishes good players as well
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I agree. Being camped caused me to get derank too many times because I dont get the points for Benevolent and LightBringer since the killer 1 hooked camp or 2 hooked camp (2 hook camped because I was able to get that 4% escape :D) and I usually get a silver emblem for Unbroken. Evader is usually gold because I'm able to keep him busy for a while and lose only a few points because I lose a single chase. there should be some point transfer, like as the Killer loses points for camping, the camped gets those points in all categories and the are characterized as "Time Buyer" or something to show that you gained the points for keeping the Killer busy via camping, which further punishes the Killer for camping by rewarding the survivor they are camping. Just a thought :|
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I totally agree with everybody saying rank needs to be removed. All it does is cause longer wait times to get a lobby, for the most part toxicity in the red ranks, and from what I see every time I look at these forums it gives people something to complain about. It’s too easy to pip, it’s too hard to pip, I’m a rank 2 killer and I got these high rank survivors to play against or vice versa. Friday the 13th has levels where different characters and cosmetics unlock but it’s never used levels to match people in lobbies 150s play with level 1s and I’ve never heard complaints asking for a rank system and I never sat there 45 minutes waiting for a lobby over ranks getting matched up either. It never should’ve been in this game and now most people who have been rank 1s look at it as a status that makes them high and mighty over lower ranks. I’ve been a rank 1 survivor and killer several seasons and from my experience the best thing to do is stay around 8 to 12 you don’t have long wait times and for the most part the players in this range are good to play with.
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This is the best answer I have heard so far. I agree with your statement 💯💯👍
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The game ISNT ranked.
It doesnt reward or encourage competetive play to get to higher ranks.
How do you people not get that?
"I just ignore rank at this point" exactly. Everyone should. It's a MMR number.
All the "rank" does is try to better match up games. Period.
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Being camped would usually depip you though.
However the OTHER survivors are now punished if the killer camps, particularly at red ranks. That's because at red ranks you need 13 points to pip. Considering that an iridescent emblem is 4 points, that means if you have 1 category that is DEVOID of points you literally cannot pip no matter what. If killer camps someone, you lose your bronze Benevolence emblem, it is now impossible to pip.
And to those saying "remove rank it doesn't mean anything". Ok then why do rank 15's get absolutely bodied when they are matched against me, a rank 1 killer? Why are the only games where I even have a CHANCE to lose are against red rank survivors? Rank does indeed mean SOMETHING. If you take out rank then it's just a clusterluck of getting bad players with really good ones. Is ranking PERFECT? No, but it does have value in matching you against reasonably equally skilled opponents.
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Yep, you get punished hard for being camped or tunneled. And as killer you get punished hard for survivors killing themselves on hook or making bad plays and dying too quick.
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If they took ranks out it would mix and match everybody which is already happening whether it be because the matchmaker is screwy or because of swf. I have a group of about 10 people I play with regularly with ranks spread from 1 to 20 and so do a lot of other people. No matter what rank I am playing killer, and I’ve been a 1 several different seasons, I’ve found it more common to have survivors spread out in ranks than to have 4 red ranks when I’m a 1. It’s not worth all the hassle with the matchmaker when most players don’t worry about it and cause the mix ups in ranks themselves anyway. And what about people like me, I’ve been a rank 1 survivor several seasons too and I’ve made it a point to stay around 8 to 12 now, if I’m a 12 now but was a 1 for 6 months does that mean I lost my skill? Maybe after the last reset I haven’t played much so I haven’t ranked up again or I went in and let the killer hook me once and I died immediately to keep my rank higher several matches so I get in lobbies faster as a higher rank. Whatever the case I’d still really be a rank 1 playing in lobbies with rank 15s and we all know lots of people purposely keep the rank higher. You want the ranks because your a 1 and like I said it’s a status thing for some.
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The matchmaking in terms of ranks was mostly fine up until this last patch. Devs claimed to have reverted it but I got 3 games in a row last night against a full set of rank 15's as rank 1 killer. One of them said I had to be cheating and I had to explain the new ranking system is messed up.
Like if the game is going to put me against these people, fine, because then at least I'm not sitting in a lobby by myself for ages. But at least TELL ME they are low ranks. I will take off my meta build and do something fun, and I'll play around with them and such knowing I could pretty much win at any time I want. I know some killers will froth at the mouth for these games and put on the most OP meta build they can with mori's and all, but those of us not starving for kills would actually try to play nice with others.
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I just assume I’m getting matched against non-red rank survivors now as a Rank 1 killer. I have a meme build on doctor just for bloodpoints to use against these survivors.
I kill 2 and let 2 escape but most of the time 1-2 people end up DC’ing (no matter which killer I use) so the other 2 have to die for me to safety.
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There is an easy way to not get camped: "Do not get caught". If we killers de-pip because we camp, we are taking the camped survivor with us!
I do not mind that emblem system anyway. I play killer to get blood and salt, not silly pips.
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The entire problem with ranking is that it has too much dependence on variables completely out of the control of the players and not dependent on each persons skill. RNG for ranking is not ranking. It's just RNG.
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@RoKrueger Well, that quote “Do not get caught” is actually bs.
If a killer is committed to getting a survivor, you’ll get caught eventually. :/
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Not if you are so good that the killer gives up in you
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@RoKrueger That’s very situational and it all depends on who is playing behind the killer, but I understand what you mean.
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Just dont camp. Play like any decent killer and go to the next person. The idea you need to "secure a kill" is the problem, you ought to go put on map pressure and stop the gens being finished.
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Same. A Hag chased me for 5 gens, I got facecamped and deranked. Very fair pip system. Especially since you can only just reach an emblem it means the same as just missed the better emblem, which is stupid. They should make pipping require certain percent. Like 100 % aka all Iridescent is a double pip. 99 % - 70 % is a pip. 69 % - 50 % Blackpip and under 50 % it's a derank.
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